Club should have just sold him last summer in my honest opinion. But that didn't happen so here we are. Keep deflecting. Don't create unnecessary drama.
Erik ten Hag vs Sancho
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I stand with ETH fully. We have pampered these overpaid big babies for long.
It was only the one season under Ole/Rangick.
What do you want him to do ?
Give him another 3 month break in Holland with full pay ?
This is it for Sancho. ETH has been helpful enough, if he's still not performing he needs to go, simple as.
No other big club in world football would've done for Sancho what ETH did for him last year, ETH is still not happy with his performances in training as Dortmund weren't as Southgate wasn't but you think ETH is the problem here ?
If Sancho had as much fight in games as in his press release he'd be a better player.
I was always surprised that Sancho was desperate to join us specifically despite being so highly rated and us being shite, and also facing no competition for his signature.
Sancho and his weak mentality was sold on joining up with his mates at adult Disneyland. Both the club and player were a match made in heaven and like always we are still paying the price for such stupid decisions made over the last decade,
Sancho and his weak mentality was sold on joining up with his mates at adult Disneyland. Both the club and player were a match made in heaven and like always we are still paying the price for such stupid decisions made over the last decade,
The spin on ETH’s handling of Ronaldo is wild. Ronaldo walked all over him and was rewarding with the captain’s armband and 90 minutes after 90 minutes, until Ronaldo finally burned all the bridges down with THAT interview.
Wouldn’t have been drama if the player didn’t post a statement.
ETH should agree how to deal with it with the player first. I’m not generally keen on managers lying but, even if he’s in privately torn into Sancho for his attitude in training, it would be preferable if he’d agreed that they would say he had a minor knock. Sancho is obviously going to be less unhappy about that. As it is, we are left with the impression (from Sancho’s post) ETH has lied anyway and there’s another reason for his omission.
Good calling him out. Eth bent over backwards for him last season. He’s looked shite and uninterested in his cameos this season so I can imagine it’s the same in training.
Listening to Vibe with Five. Ste Howson alludes to the reason why Sancho was sent to Holland last year, but didn't say.
Anyone know what the rumor is/was ?
Anyone know what the rumor is/was ?
Yep. He protected the feck out of him last year and is not being shown the requisite effort in return. Still this continues to be a club that harbours bluffers and cry babies for players and the fans let them off time and time again.
When has that ever happened? It hasn’t. You’re the one moaning and making things up to bash the manager. He didn’t name drop him. He was asked about Mctominay and Sancho and he answered.
He was benched plenty so he hardly walked all over him.
"Player selection for each match is a complex decision that takes into account factors like form, fitness bla bla."
"The coaching staff made the decision based on tactical considerations and the specific game plan for this match."
That took me 10 seconds to make up and both sound better than what ETH said. I think he is telling the truth about him not giving his all in training and wants to make an example of him.
A bit Mourinho-esque but I still trust that he knows what he's doing. That said things like these can backfire.
I’m not. Plenty others too probably.
I'm of the opinion that this will reap some benefits. Either Sancho will now be determined to try and prove the manager wrong, or he'll want out. Either suits me.
People retweeting on Twitter/X previous journalist reports questioning his training form and professionalism. David Ornstein article from 2019 out there about how he felt 'scapegoated' by Dortmund for public comments after a defeat to Bayern in 2019. Similar to his statement today where he somehow feels scapegoated.
Obviously, we don't know the full story but it is not a good sign when there has been reports of similar issues in the past. Has any manager actually called him out for it though other than Ten Hag?
Obviously, we don't know the full story but it is not a good sign when there has been reports of similar issues in the past. Has any manager actually called him out for it though other than Ten Hag?
By going public with his response, Sancho has now made life very difficult for himself.
Maybe he has forgotten that he is only one of a few players at Carrington next week as most of the other firstteam squad are off on international duty.
Plenty of time to impress ETH in training next week with the U18’s.
Maybe he has forgotten that he is only one of a few players at Carrington next week as most of the other firstteam squad are off on international duty.
Plenty of time to impress ETH in training next week with the U18’s.
So you mean too say EtH acted about as well as he could and was as decent to Ronaldo as possible until he threw his toys out of the pram and got his contract terminated?
He quite deliberately gave him enough rope to hang himself with.
Not fair on the U18s.
Feck me. Another one. Where are you getting this idea from that he said Sancho isn’t trying in training?
Wrong thread? This one’s about Sancho?
What good will come from airing this out though?
Like it or now, Sancho is on 350k a week. No club would take that on, so we are stuck with him. Telling the world that he is not training well cant help.
I know you are right, I just have a soft spot for Sancho that I can’t explain why.
Dortmund told the world. So did Southgate.
Didn’t stop United signing him and paying him 350k a week
Jaysus. It just felt like longer. Probably because of the 3 year transfer saga.
Point stands.
If Sancho were any good on the right then Antony wouldn't be here. You can't say he should play ahead of him when he's been here longer and looks and plays worse.
“I have been a scapegoat for a long time”
What does he mean by that? If anything everyone has been supportive of him, fans and multiple managers including ten hag. Who has scapegoated him? For 2 years he has served nothing but shit performances after shit performances. We have all seen his lazy attitude on the pitch under multiple managers but he never got the harsh treatment from the fans, managers even the media like some other players like pogba, Maguire. So how can he say he has been a scapegoat for a long time?
What does he mean by that? If anything everyone has been supportive of him, fans and multiple managers including ten hag. Who has scapegoated him? For 2 years he has served nothing but shit performances after shit performances. We have all seen his lazy attitude on the pitch under multiple managers but he never got the harsh treatment from the fans, managers even the media like some other players like pogba, Maguire. So how can he say he has been a scapegoat for a long time?
Who else would have paid him 350k a week?
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Once a sap, always a sap.
Victim complex.
Be he does get online abuse for being a waste of money. But its not far off the mark.
If he wants to talk about being a scapegoat, he should speak with Macguire.
So if he's not showing anything or working hard and the manager doesn't want him. Sell him then. Don't wait until right after the window is closed and then decide to completely alienate a player you're stuck with.
If you want to motivate him, then figure out the best way to do that, but it's not likely to be by publicly embarrassing him. If you want him gone then make that clear when he can actually go. Now we have a player in the dressing room for half a season at least who will be bringing down the spirit of this squad even more than it already is.
He's pathetic honestly.
The more I've read that statement the more it's pissed me off. ten Hag has every right to banish him from the first team squad and force him to train with the U-23's.
Addiction? Substances? What did he allude to?
Come to think of it - to say that Sancho picked up a knock in training is such a bold faced lie.
If I'm Ten Hag & see Sancho make 82 appearances to be nothing more than straight up dogshite and require mid-season holidays due to his fragility I'm probably going to find it difficult to muster up the willpower to not slap the shit out of him as clearly nothing matters.
He didnt say. Just that he had been told what the issues were. But not sure if what he knows is just rumors though.
This is his what, 3rd season here? I still barely recognize him as a united player
It's not that deep and it very rarely ever is. Banishing players to the reserves is petty and doesn't help anyone.
Ronaldo only did the interview because ETH was benching him, I don't know what the other poster is on about.