Well we are going to miss out on a lot of talented players then. In the long run that’s more damaging.Might be spin.. but that is typical Riola.. De Ligt has a buy out clause too iirc.
I have no issues if we just refuse to deal with Riola .. ever.. or if we do, he gets no special treatment.
Raiola likes his clients to move around too so he can maximise his slice from transfers fees and scale up the player's wages. He'll see Dortmund as the perfect stepping stone club to engineer that mega transfer.Might be spin.. but that is typical Riola.. De Ligt has a buy out clause too iirc.
I have no issues if we just refuse to deal with Riola .. ever.. or if we do, he gets no special treatment.
I mean, they've always been that. Let them have their fun!My god they really are annoying cnuts. Well done lads you’re officially a stepping stone club
With a buyout clause.True. Instead of celebrating missing out on a top talent again
They always have tbf. They've never allowed a release clause in a contract as far as I'm aware and never will. There's no way that they'd agree to a big slice of future transfer fee for an agent either.People can spin this decision however they want to but I am glad that United are now dealing with players on their own terms instead of being strong armed by super agents.
That being said, I hope we smash dortmund whenever we play them next.
And seemingly the same ones too.Few really lose their shit when some young player signs for other clubs
To be fair it would be hilarious if it happened today, Woodward's life would be in immediate danger.We’ve even missed out on a player pictured with our shirt
The last 6 years sure did a number on the collective psyche of this fan base. Can’t handle the slightest of rejection.
Yes, I'm not sure the taller, less agile Haaland fits better into Favre's football. Balotelli is the only really tall CF I can think of who functioned under Favre, at least for some time. Perhaps that move is an indicator of a transfer policy independent of the coach's priorities? Which may not be a good sign for Favre, as that never worked out well for him.The strange thing is that Dortmund aren't actually playing with a striker at the moment and Alcacer, who is a great goal scorer himself, barely gets any minutes.
So, so bitter.Joining a pathetic hipster club that is always going to be in the shadow of true prestige like Bayern Munich
Greenwood will make him look like a pub league footballer before long.
Not sure he's even his agent is he? Or if he is I'm sure it's a recent arrangement. Raiola is just smart, aligning himself with every young talent before their first big move, did the same with De Ligt making it very hard to avoid having to deal with him if we continue to shop in the 'young potential' marketWe need to do like City and stop doing business once Raiola is involved
This can happen at both clubs tbf. But given the huge pressure playing at Utd, horrible physical demand of the PL and the Bundes is much easier than the PL I'd say the probability of that to happen at Utd is much higher than at Dortmund.That’s assuming he wouldn’t get a new contract and a pay raise at Utd in the same timeframe, with all the sign on bonuses. Also 7m guaranteed in the bank > potential 15m few years down the line. Loss of form, illness, injuries, not getting confidence of the coach can happen.
United wouldn't agree to a buyout clause.and so the spin begins.
At United manager has a lot of say in Transfers. Deal wasn't impossible to get one but just would have been bad business.Does OGS have any involvement in contract negotiations?
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I'm sure they have a say in who gets signed but do you think they have a hand in the actual details of the contract? I would have thought Fergie was the last one who did.At United manager has a lot of say in Transfers. Deal wasn't impossible to get one but just would have been bad business.
It just seems odd to gloat when they’ve practically bent over for raiola with those terms! doubt he will be there more than 2/3 years anywayI mean, they've always been that. Let them have their fun!
We should give some credit to the club when credit is due.United wouldn't agree to a buyout clause.
Well.. there were also Mike Hanke and Igor de Camargo who did relatively well for him at Gladbach. Though Luuk de Jong was a massive flop, I don't think height is a factor at all, it's about technical ability which often correlates with size, so Favre usually preferred smaller attackers, because his clubs couldn't afford complete players.Yes, I'm not sure the taller, less agile Haaland fits better into Favre's football. Balotelli is the only really tall CF I can think of who functioned under Favre, at least for some time. Perhaps that move is an indicator of a transfer policy independent of the coach's priorities? Which may not be a good sign for Favre, as that never worked out well for him.
More like it speaks volumes about the clubs themselves, Dortmund are just happy being a selling club and the '2nd' best side in GermanyFairly gutted to miss out on this player but with the terms being as reported we really had no choice but to walk away.
It speaks volumes about the way both clubs view signings. Dortmund clearly not too concerned by the terms because they know the likelihood will be that they get a potentially very good player for 2 to 3 seasons and then make a profit. United not interested in being a stepping stone, and rightfully so.
If the numbers are true then football really does continue to have a growing cancer at its core when an agent can receive almost as much in commission as the selling club receive. There is no way football can continue to sustain the sums of money that are going out of the game every single year.
Why get Raiola involved? I really don’t get it. He walks away with more than his Dad in this transfer ffs. Get this leech out of football.Tweet
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The figures of the operation #Håland to the #BorussiaDortmund : 30 million for the card (20 clause, 10 to the father) + 15 million commission for #Raiola . The player signs the contract until 2024 from 6 net that rise to 8 from the third year with a rescission clause. #calciomercato#BVB
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I think he is or was his agent/advisor before Raiola got involvedWhy is the player's Dad getting anything at all?
He's the agent isn't he. They just used Raiola as an adviser.Why is the player's Dad getting anything at all?
I hate it when player's family get involved to the extent they are earning big money. Seems gross.I think he is or was his agent/advisor before Raiola got involved
Why would any manager have a hand in the actual details of the contract? Its not like Sir Alex was a City lawyer either.I'm sure they have a say in who gets signed but do you think they have a hand in the actual details of the contract? I would have thought Fergie was the last one who did.
He's following the Neymar Snr example. Apparently he'll get a nice slice of the next transfer fee too.I hate it when player's family get involved to the extent they are earning big money. Seems gross.
So they are paying 45 million and only 20 is going to the selling club?He's the agent isn't he. They just used Raiola as an adviser.
Think his dad is his agent and Raiola was just doing a rather expensive advisory role.Why is the player's Dad getting anything at all?