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In fairness the same threats were made with the introduction of European football in the 50s, United went against it and played. The same threats were made again with the introduction of the PL.
The big problem with the SL is the fact that the 15 founding clubs are always guaranteed a spot. This will have an enormous detrimental effect on the PL.
While I do think there are a lot of problems with the CL and the suggested changes, this fact alone is why I sincerely hope the SL will be a non-starter.
When your reading things through tears most things seem like a wind up but I assure you it's not. Just chill out and lets see what happens next.
It's still based on Merit though. Super league is for the rich boys and qualification isn't needed.
Arsenal are in the ESL but won't be in the CL why because they're rich and a founder.. not because they're any fecking good.
Also how will clubs get into it, if it is the champions of certain leagues, Accrington Stanley will be in there eventually. Everytime a club disappears from the league more and more clubs will need promoting to make up the numbers in their own leagues.
Yeah... so true. I guess there is a solid business and finance plan for the next 5 years. These clubs will be the richest in the world.
The only missing thing for them is a superstar duo like Messi and C. Ronaldo in their prime. If they get that, the league will be a major success and there will be a long line of clubs bidding to join the league.
It’s postering. The PL aren’t kicking out the big 6, no chance in hell
Well the title fight is still very much exciting. Not sure the same can be said for the places 5-8 or what it might turn out to be that will play in the CL if the first 4 places are filled with the ESL teams. Strange times
If this was just a proposed new Champions League format/competition, then that would be fine... it's the divine right/automatic entry that totally fecks this whole thing up. (and the greed of it of course - but then thats to be expected - and thats from everyone in football, though it doesn't make it any less gross)
BoJo will put a stop to that.
If by get our game back you mean, the Hollywood rolling around on the ground, shite refs and horrible VAR decisions, then yeah...not sure when we will get our game back.
This is something entirely different, and long before it came around football as we know it, is a far cry from its roots, and I'm afraid that game is not coming back ever.
Real Betis remove the three Spanish Super League clubs from the league table on their website
The current 'big teams' have seen this opportunity and probably cemented their place at the top for a very long time now. Spurs will become a great team with the money, as will every club involved. It's the knock on effect to the rest of the leagues. Nobody will listen to their fans, I'm just glad us and supporters of the other SL teams haven't took the above as a positive and actually have some moral compass.
Not allowed to post media, but many players are starting to publish negative opinions on social media. Ander Herrera has just released a statement on Twitter.
But now is the time to discuss why 50+1 from the BL would make sense in the PL, maybe?
I might be done if this actually happens.
My support in the grand scheme of things is not worth anything but I wonder how many will feel the same.
We already have the CL and it was great playing and beating PSG whilst also beating Man City domestically.
Setting this up during Covid is Puzzling too.
My support in the grand scheme of things is not worth anything but I wonder how many will feel the same.
We already have the CL and it was great playing and beating PSG whilst also beating Man City domestically.
Setting this up during Covid is Puzzling too.
Jesus. What are we getting into here. Not that this would happen. Imagine the PL without the big 6...
Still trying but why? What do you get from it?
there’s talk of United leaving the premier league to join a closed fantasy league of supposed top teams, even if they stay in the prem it will be a mess for qualification to other European trophies but you’d rather come across all calm and chilled and make out everyone is crying while you talk about loopholes and Fred nonsense. Clear wum and not even a funny one. Last bite from me
We should never have let Americans buy our football clubs. Now they are going destroy our football history.
They only need to convince PSG to join, or manage a way to get Neymar and Mbappé into ESL squads. But let's wait for everyone to put the cards on the table. The only way for UEFA to hold their position is to give them a direct position to negotiate tv revenues, which ultimately is what those clubs want. There's still space for an agreement like happened when UEFA reformulated Chmapions League so that at least top 4 clubs of major leagues could get access to it.
Does this mean anything?
What title fight? Maybe if City, Us, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal get removed, then the league would become exciting again (Not that Liverpool or Arsenal have any impact really).
£400m is a lot of money and sadly it looks like this is more serious than brinksmanship. I went to sleep thinking that it's just a negotiating tactic to secure more for themselves and maybe a bit of independence wrt streaming deals and the like. A lot of smart and influential people have clearly worked on this for some time.
hope they fecking do plus a -15 points deduction this season
No
Yeah this started with Roman and has just got progressively worse
Ander Herrera: "I believe in an improved Champions League, but not in the rich stealing what the people created"
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Atta boy.
And when they don’t and the super league 6 finish 1st, 2nd, 4th, 7th etc in the prem who qualifies for the champions league? 3rd and 5th?
or the super league teams won’t even put effort in the prem as there’s nothing to gain from it anyway, they’re already in the money SL and will be playing reserves and youth and finishing bottom half. I can’t make much sense of it
Again 'we' had no choice in the matter. UEFA, the PL and governments did but didn't bother to do anything. Now they are crying because the monster they created is going against their wishes.
How can the clubs run the show themselves?
It is a massive conflict of interest most visible in that guaranteed spot.
The next step is for a few founding members to decide they should have 15 players on the pitch rather than 11.
These founding members got where they are thanks to their FAs and UEFA. Now they prevent others from developing.
Unless there is a plan for every new team in Superleague to take up equity on the same footing as the founding members ?
Exactly. Glazers only cared about top 4 every year and now they have it. Guaranteed money worth it or not. Disgraceful.
Good lad Herrera
Even if they've all got far more money and little to play for given they'll be in super league regardless of premier league position?
Imagine how dull the last few seasons would have been without any top 4 race.
PL might decide it's better to boot the 6 teams and rebuild from there.
Ultimately the Super League kills domestic football as we currently know it and I can see it failing to get off the ground because of that.
There are way of creating a super league that would work, but not this plan with a closed shop.
Would he say this if he was still playing at United?
Like seriously mate, I understand people are upset but this outrage was off the back of Sky wading in heavy yesterday. We really don't know all the details yet and what if Sky were painting the worst picture possible to garner public opinion? I'm not trying to WUM anyone but we really should wait until all parties have spoken and we know the full extent of what will happen before a meltdown. The threats being made aren't sustainable by the organisations making them, and if they do, what's stopping United forming an actual breakaway league that would involve other clubs from the PL and maybe even the UK? Rangers and Celtic would be in for sure.Still trying but why? What do you get from it?
there’s talk of United leaving the premier league to join a closed fantasy league of supposed top teams, even if they stay in the prem it will be a mess for qualification to other European trophies but you’d rather come across all calm and chilled and make out everyone is crying while you talk about loopholes and Fred nonsense. Clear wum and not even a funny one. Last bite from me
Let's all just relax a bit and see how this all unfolds with less anger and more anticipation of a new era.
Yes Ander
Probably would have been told not to say anything hence the silence
Yes.
He ironically says while playing for a club whose rich owners stole fair competition from all the the other teams in its league.