SuperiorXI
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At least we won't have the glory hunter tag anymore! Nice one Joel Glazer.I'm god damn Legacy Fan, motherf*ckers! Wooooooooooo!
At least we won't have the glory hunter tag anymore! Nice one Joel Glazer.I'm god damn Legacy Fan, motherf*ckers! Wooooooooooo!
Guaranteed participation is THE problem. Why in the feck should they be allowed to squirrel away all of the games money and leave feck all for every one else?Its really hard to empathize with UEFA or FIFA over this, although I do feel for the supporters of clubs like Ajax, Porto, Benfica, Lille etc who have always accounted well for themselves when given the opportunity. FIFA has been a shit hole of corruption.
UEFA has failed many times over to address racist abuse in European competitions and with more commercial revenue at stake and a strict attitude towards that, at least the super league would be free from it.
Other than guaranteed participation, I don't see much wrong with a super league proposal. Will it be any worse if the league is gradually expanded to 32 teams and they hold onto a franchise system like in American sports?
I think you're actually trying to be obtuse and annoying now.As a Manchester United fan, I honestly don't care what happens to Leeds, or MK Dons, or Bromma Pojkarna. Do you think they'd give a shit it we went into administration? Why is it our responsibility to pay them?
The gap in sponsorship between those who are successful and those who aren't is also reduced in a SL as the elite 15 have a guaranteed place regardless. The value sponsors gain from their team winning the SL as opposed to just taking their perpetually guaranteed place is many times smaller than that gained from winning the CL over failing to qualify.And this is why they're rich and we're all poor. They won't see the SL as an opportunity to make the bare minimum, they'll be looking at how the can make billions through sponsorships by winning the SL.
Ultimately managers are the most expendable commodity in the game, so they will all bend over, even the most pseudophilosophical like Klopp.I'm glad to see most on here have some sense. A very limited few making a fool of themselves.
Will be interesting to see if the managers have any balls or they'll do a 180 in their opinions.
"Now"?I think you're actually trying to be obtuse and annoying now.
Cannot be serious. He is happy to be here.All eyes on Klopp this evening. Really hope he speaks out against it. If he does and the likes of Pep and Ole can follow. Maybe even some players too, this could be all over within a week
You must just be trolling at this point.As a Manchester United fan, I honestly don't care what happens to Leeds, or MK Dons, or Bromma Pojkarna. Do you think they'd give a shit it we went into administration? Why is it our responsibility to pay them?
I dont want to see any clubs go out of business. I dont care who they areAs a Manchester United fan, I honestly don't care what happens to Leeds, or MK Dons, or Bromma Pojkarna. Do you think they'd give a shit it we went into administration? Why is it our responsibility to pay them?
This is pure fantasy on your part. It seems like you decided to play devil's advocate yesterday before you'd even read the official statement and now you've gone down a rabbit hole where you've even tried to claim the Glazers haven't taken a shit-ton of money out of the club.I've replied multiple times to that question.
Merit still exists, these clubs weren't just selected at random. This isn't a postcode lottery of teams is it?
As it currently stands, it's 15 'elites' and 5 that drop in and drop out. There's nothing stopping a team like Southampton winning the CL multiple times, growing a following and becoming more competitive and asking questions about joining the SL full time, otherwise they'd just create another SL that involved them and other clubs.
It doesn't make sense for the competition is completely exclusionary it's entire lifespan.
But Manchester United or Arsenal not qualifying for the Champions League is not a fantasy. It's all quite real. Arsenal haven't done it for half a decade now.I think people enjoy the fantasy that Real, Juve, Bayern, MU, Liverpool, Arsenal, PSG could be relegated in the modern era... rather than the reality.
It's like the American illusion that if you compete hard enough and find a niche that you can defeat Amazon or Walmart in retail.
But I suppose keeping that illusion intact would make it much more palatable for fans who actually think the game is played on a level playing field.
I've messaged every player and staff account I could think of, asking them to speak out.I'm glad to see most on here have some sense. A very limited few making a fool of themselves.
Will be interesting to see if the managers have any balls or they'll do a 180 in their opinions.
I assume we are talking about @crossy1686 ?"Now"?
What about the last two years?
No idea how not banned.
Absolutely. This is all about the money.15th and an EBITDA of 200% and increased drawings.
In a league they CAN'T get relegated from.
They won't give a shit.
I doubt you'll hear a peep. Nobody will speak against their employers.All eyes on Klopp this evening. Really hope he speaks out against it. If he does and the likes of Pep and Ole can follow. Maybe even some players too, this could be all over within a week
I fecking hate the British media.
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Just said (effectively) the same thing to someone who said "what if we're 15th?"The gap in sponsorship between those who are successful and those who aren't is also reduced in a SL as the elite 15 have a guaranteed place regardless. The value sponsors gain from their team winning the SL as opposed to just taking their perpetually guaranteed place is many times smaller than that gained from winning the CL over failing to qualify.
They will get massive sponsorship deals even if they're finishing bottom of the SL, because they're forever guaranteed to be in it. They don't need to spend to make that money.
You really think all this planning will be shelved because a few people are unhappy?All eyes on Klopp this evening. Really hope he speaks out against it. If he does and the likes of Pep and Ole can follow. Maybe even some players too, this could be all over within a week
I wish I was this naive.The part in bold is clearly bollocks but don't let a rumour ruin a good story.
I don't want to get into this in this thread. I don't agree with the model but perhaps there's a possibility the SL money could go towards paying off the debt? Thought about that?
Feck me, are you being paid by the Glazers or something?The part in bold is clearly bollocks but don't let a rumour ruin a good story.
I don't want to get into this in this thread. I don't agree with the model but perhaps there's a possibility the SL money could go towards paying off the debt? Thought about that?
European competition shouldn’t be about seeing United play Barca or madrid multiple times a season. European competition is about the romance of being drawn against competition we wouldn’t otherwise play and having a big match if you get through. The CL need to build on that. Not this..: this power grab: if anyone thinks it’s a reason for the glazers to spend more.. it’s a reason for them to take even more money outYeah you're right, how dare the best teams play the best teams. Disgraceful. I came here to see FC Cluj lose 7-0 to Barcelona and I'm not leaving until it happens
Oh I thoroughly enjoyed Leeds going into administration.I dont want to see any clubs go out of business. I dont care who they are
I imagine most football fans feel the same
Why do you not have a problem with the fact that these 15 clubs are guaranteed to qualify for the Super League?As a Manchester United fan, I honestly don't care what happens to Leeds, or MK Dons, or Bromma Pojkarna. Do you think they'd give a shit it we went into administration?
Winning the Europa League for the sense of achievement is exactly what football is all about. Why are you even interested in United and football in general otherwise?So it feels like finishing in the top 4 or winning the Europa league is completely pointless now anyway?
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There is also Monaco playing in the ligue 1 with a complete tax system. If there is a will, there is a way, specially when it comes to moneyOf course you can, what nonsense. Look at the NHL - not just a bunch of different states (all of whom set their own taxes, largely), but two different countries - Canada and the US. Come to think of it, the other NA major leagues have Canadian teams too.
Right. So winning the ESL gets 500m - an extra 200m. They won’t care about that but they’re willing to spend 80m on Harry Maguire to guarantee the 70m for CL.15th and an EBITDA of 200% and increased drawings.
In a league they CAN'T get relegated from.
They won't give a shit.