Tom Van Persie
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Loudest voices are never the majority when it comes to consumption and leisure. They will sign up for the streams, they will will pile into the stadia when they reopen and there will be new generations of fans replacing the old if they defect, which they mostly won't because it's still the same game, only with the best teams.Which is?
Arsenal (a 'legacy' club) are closer to the relegation spots than they are to the top of the table, so no?Aren’t we currently in a league where there is obscene amounts of money with no threat of relegation?
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If attendances drop significantly, the franchise will be moved to Tokyo.If this goes ahead, any tw*t that goes to Old Trafford to watch a Super League match should take a long, hard look at themselves. They will be no different to the Glazers in my eyes and just as involved in destroying football.
I'm absolutely ready to jack it all in and disconnect from football completely. Who the hell would want to watch this? A league where clubs are guaranteed obscene amounts with no threat of relegation. It's absolutely appalling, a hijack of European football.
You should put your money where your mouth is and get shorting it if you truely believe thatWith a ban from premier and Europe you will see a -80% in the next days
I bet AIG and Merrill Lynch thought the same. Wrong thread for this, but JPM's record of risk avoidance is not infallible.I'm 100% convinced they knew the government was gonna step in.
Eventually many will.Will you pay to watch it? I know I certainly won’t and any supporters I’ve spoken to have said the same.
Well that's the problem... after a few seasons of watching United repeatedly play Barca or Juve it gets boring quickly.As much as I oppose this move, after everything settle down, many fans will be back supporting their respective clubs.
Imagine they can watch on weekly basic entertaining games eg. Man Utd vs Barca, Man Utd vs Real Madrid, Man Utd vs Juventus, Man Utd vs Liverpool and etc while also competing in EPL (if FA didn't ban them).
It will be much more interesting than the system now in Champions League. But this will essentially kill European football.
Yeah exactly. People on here and Twitter arent the majority, or anywhere close to it. They are just the most engaged.You and me won't. However I know pretty well ton of casual fans worldwide won't give a shit and will just want to enjoy some football regardless of all the problems surrounding this system. Don't depend on fans, believe me, you'll be disappointed.
There is no doubt ESL most likely will be a better and more entertaining product than the CL (until you reach later knockout stages) because group stages are a complete borefest and the new format will make it even worse. If you are a supporter of one of those clubs that will participate in ESL and you don't care about the rest, you will definitely be able to enjoy more high quality football and be happy about it. But if you look at the bigger picture, there will be a massive problem with national leagues. Now teams have goals to finish in TOP 4, TOP 6 or whatever to get into Europe for that extra money. To do so you have to invest into the squad. What happens when the ESL becomes a real thing? Teams that are not fighting for the title will stop giving a shite about the league in January as it doesn't matter where you finish, 2nd or 12th and most likely rotate teams because ESL will be a priority with more money involved there. The quality of EPL will inevitably go down as it will very likely become a secondary trophy. The gap between the rich and the rest will become bigger than ever and it's definitely not healthy for football.Make it happen. I don't care about all these outrages and crying from UEFA, PL, Sky etc who are crying because they see loss in revenue and hiding behind fake morality and tradition.
As for fans as a whole, almost every new thing whether they'd turn out good or bad have usually always been met with outrage. If this SL works out people will be on board.
Totally. We and the largely the Glazers should held accountable for this farce. I understand wanting bigger slice of the pie but to completely bastardise the sport we love is a fecking step too far.Would be in favour of that, despite us having our best season for a while.
I think China makes more sense commerciallyIf attendances drop significantly, the franchise will be moved to Tokyo.
I don’t think the fans organisations of Liverpool putting banners up outside their ground or the other fans organisations of teams are off the cafthose matches will be 100% packed and viewership will be sky high, don't be fooled by the like-mindedness of the CAF.
Based on what?Would be in favour of that, despite us having our best season for a while.
Blast from the bloody pastSo, what’s Sergio Canales up to these days?
Ohhhh what can I say to make the fans think I love them and understand them today? This little routine of his gets very boring very quickly. You chose to move to PSG mate, there’s no moral high ground.Tweet
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Just without us legacy fans.People will say they will never watch it, but I'm sure with all that star power, fans and most importantly marketing budget, ESL will be something big.
Based on the Premier League having to agree for any of its members to be able to play in another competition.Based on what?
How much would the EPL expect to lose in such situation?With a ban from premier and Europe you will see a -80% in the next days
Do you think it would make any difference to Liverpool if 50,000 fans boycotted all games? No of course not. There would be 50,000 to fill their space in a second...I don’t think the fans organisations of Liverpool putting banners up outside their ground or the other fans organisations of teams are off the caf
No clearly we could get relegated, but perhaps more to the point it's very easy to drop out of the top 4 and drop out of the CL. This super league idea by-passes that idea, the fact is you dont really have to be competitive in it you will still get the money and if we are getting the money however we perform you think the glazers will dip into there pockets much for new players? I doubt it why would they? We could finish bottom of the super league but we would still be in it the next season and still get the obscene amount of money from it.Aren’t we currently in a league where there is obscene amounts of money with no threat of relegation?
No it isn't.London is the biggest city in Europe, so makes sense. same reason why LA and NY have multiple teams in a lot of their sports too.
because we're all bored of watching united play pretty much the same teams in the league every year right?Well that's the problem... after a few seasons of watching United repeatedly play Barca or Juve it gets boring quickly.
Too much of anything is bad they say.
It's greatly in the PL's interest to keep the 6 big teams.Based on the Premier League having to agree for any of its members to be able to play in another competition.
they still manage to clean their image and eventually get into the position of making sure they would have a lots of future favours (and loosing a lot of money in the process).2008 would like to have a word
Yeah, daft argument.because we're all bored of watching united play pretty much the same teams in the league every year right?
"So did you watch Champions league last night? West Ham vs Sevilla, good game! Antonio is the best player in the world!"Eventually many will.
When some fans start watching and talking and all news channels and papers who are well paid by them constantly throw scores, highlights and news, when apps on the phones start pushing notifications/ads about the event, people will eventually want to check it out and adjust to the new reality.
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like there's never any dead rubbers in the current format? how about United needing to win their last few group games to make it to the knock out stages? that will just be dull, eh?Watching United in 10th play Inter in 12th with neither team able to be relegated or win anything doesn't sound terribly exciting to me. And you will VERY quickly see matches like that, games against Spurs, Arsenal, Athletico etc. lose their glamour and be the kind of games fans skip.