Koeman is an obnoxious arse with an opinion of himself that’s far ahead of his actual managerial record. He thoroughly deserved to be sacked. Though one wonders what contributory factors have been caused by Steve Walsh, who presumably oversaw the disastrous transfer window, and Bill Kenwright, who’s in the weird position of running a club that’s no longer his.
Everton manager Ronald Koeman is Sacked | Koeman: "I'm not impressed"
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
He's Everton's top scorer?
Certainly a connection.
The better managers can see the better players around them regardless of names and so will drop Rooney when he don't perform. So basically putting too much faith in Rooney would not be very smart given that he has not been that great since the last two seasons under SAF and the managers that have failed have done stupid things and we would expect them to have strong correlation with stupid things.
Regarding Koeman I don't think playing Rooney has been the problem rather the transfer window they had was not good enough and thinking Rooney would be the savior rather than getting more firepower to replace Lukaku was a big error. Sandro seem not so great either so basically Rooney is one of many poor buys for them (although didn't cost much so maybe one of the better ones among the bad).
Not sure if this was meant as a joke, but yes he is. 4 goals in the league, 5 overall.
Niasse has 3 in the league and 4 overall. No other player scored in the league for Everton.
So do Everton fans feel that Rooney has brought with him all the problems that were evident in his game in last few years at United?
Everton have no speed. They got Rooney for feck all. Selling Lukaku and Bolasies injury did them in
For all the post slating Rooney. He was with United for many years and have contributed to the success of the team. Granted that he is not the player he was before, but there is no need to keep having a go at an ex-United player.
Yes, and as a Saint, the schadenfreude of this really is quite sweet.
However, I don't want to be too revisionist about this. When he arrived with us, we were in turmoil after our previous manager had said that he had a contract in place and saw no reason to enter discussions yet to extend it (funny, that's what Koeman said as well before walking out) and the owner seemingly happy to sell anyone and everyone. He was the right person for us. He brought stability, steadied the ship and brought in some players. And a club our size, we can't complain too much about where we finished, although some of the games we lost, we really should not have.
There were always murmurings of things not so good behind the scenes. There was also a rumour that he was close to being sacked during our really poor patch - something like 1 win in 10 games - and that he was playing golf in Portugal too much. Some players also had the hump with him.
We always knew that Barca was the goal, and maybe that he would hang around a bit longer before taking the Arsenal job. Everton made sense though. From finishing 11th or whatever it was, it wasn't really too difficult to get them to where they should have been. And I am sure that his agent (the same one as van Dijk has) is more than pleased with the financial aspect of it all.
Interesting, as these were all true of his time at Everton as well!
KOEMAN: Failure to sign Giroud caused Everton Sacking...
http://www.goal.com/en/news/koeman-...ed-everton-sacking/1nbjahubfwfti1i267elyp6kpm
http://www.goal.com/en/news/koeman-...ed-everton-sacking/1nbjahubfwfti1i267elyp6kpm
There’s no excuse for Everton not spending on a proper striker. They have the money and Lukaku told them in March he wanted to leave.
They should have had a list a shortlist of targets drawn up there and then, to be thoroughly scouted til the end of the season and then started negotiating with clubs in June.
Why wait until deadline day to try and get one? Ridiculous.
They should have had a list a shortlist of targets drawn up there and then, to be thoroughly scouted til the end of the season and then started negotiating with clubs in June.
Why wait until deadline day to try and get one? Ridiculous.
Giroud??? As a replacement for Lukaku? Is he nuts?
The team has no ability to play out of the back now. All the centre backs are poor on the ball, Baines has lost his pace so he wont risk it and whoever has been forced into right back hasn't been good enough. Lukaku was the outball for them , he could hold ball up from long balls and his presence alone would frighten teams. Then to make matters worse we lost Barkley. The only player in the team who could recieve the ball with men around him and still keep it. So i can sort of see where he is getting at and how much of a blow it was for him not getting Giroud but not getting full backs and a centre back who could play should of been a priority aswell. Also thinking Sigurdsson was good enough to replace Barkley was another stupid move.
Spot on. I’ve no desire to let Koeman off the hook, but surely Walsh needs to share some of the blame?
He obviously wanted to inject some pace into the side.KOEMAN: Failure to sign Giroud caused Everton Sacking...
http://www.goal.com/en/news/koeman-...ed-everton-sacking/1nbjahubfwfti1i267elyp6kpm
He's an absolute shit shower of a human being.
Ginger mourinho ?
Sean Dyche
What's the mourinho link ?
Its just what the Burnley fans chant and its kinda stuck with him
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35596625
I get that Lukaku is a big loss, especially considering Everton's defenders would just hoof it to him in any game where they came under pressure, but Koeman clearly knew Lukaku was off for a while, because he kept bloody moaning about it through the second half of last season.
Also regardless of that, he's done nothing to address the fact his team can't play out from defence against half decent sides. His solution was to just sign a bunch of players who happened to be available but don't fit in with any kind of actual plan or address any weakness in Everton's squad. On top of which none of them are actually that good anyway. Pretty much all of them are the type of players you sign if you're expecting a relegation battle.
Problem is whoever takes over from him now inherits the mess. They'll have to change the style of play completely to piece together some kind of functional team.
Also regardless of that, he's done nothing to address the fact his team can't play out from defence against half decent sides. His solution was to just sign a bunch of players who happened to be available but don't fit in with any kind of actual plan or address any weakness in Everton's squad. On top of which none of them are actually that good anyway. Pretty much all of them are the type of players you sign if you're expecting a relegation battle.
Problem is whoever takes over from him now inherits the mess. They'll have to change the style of play completely to piece together some kind of functional team.
Man has lost it.
He had a shit disorganised defence which contributed to their constant losses. No idea why he thinks giroud would solve that.
He had a shit disorganised defence which contributed to their constant losses. No idea why he thinks giroud would solve that.
So Giroud came to Merseyside, and into the Everton complex, saw everything and said feck ya'all. This place is shite
Is that why Koeman got sacked
Is that why Koeman got sacked
His solution was giroud...
Probably looked out the window to see Wazza huffing around the training pitch and thought 'I'm gonna be the fallguy when that fecker can't get the ball near me'.
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Giroud upfront with Rooney, Klasseden, Sigurdsson.
Feck me that would have been the slowed EPL team ever.
Feck me that would have been the slowed EPL team ever.
Chicharito would have been the proper signing. He can get in behind with pace, has history with Rooney and pretty much will guarantee goal.
Also could have done with a tricky winger .
There's no pace, no creativity and if Rooney doesn't score nobody else will.
Also could have done with a tricky winger .
There's no pace, no creativity and if Rooney doesn't score nobody else will.
Reminds me of another dutchman!
You'd think they'd have been great mates but apparently they hated each other.
I disagree .. I think Giroud would have been a vital addition. Sigurdson + Giroud looks a pretty neat attack.
Giroud is a great finisher but he's very slow. He's surrounded with some fast players in Arsenal so they're using him to his strength. Can't see him succeeding with the very slow set up of Everton.
Bah! The other one may be an arse, but he's hardly obnoxious. Plus he's actually won stuff.
Talking nonsense. If he knew we couldn't tempt Giroud why did we not have any backups in case that went tits up? He knows he fecked up and he's trying to worm his way out of it.
Ah ok,thanks
I think Benteke would have been a great signing for them at the expense of Sigurddson or Klassen. Would allow them the outball they had in Lukaku although Benteke is better with his back to goal and is better in the air, still quite quick too and very dangerous in the box.
Getting Bolaise and Barkley back will be a big help providing they haven't lost too much from their injuries especially Bolaise. They are unpredictable and creative and will create/score chances for Everton. They need to bring in a top striker in January and not panic buy. If the right man is not available, then make use of the loan move like they use to be so good at doing over the year.
Bring in a top CB if Funes Mori continues to have injury problems (probably could do with an extra man there anyway), and bring in a full-back or two and they will be back to competing in the top half.
Too many players are past it or failed at other clubs trying to reinvent their careers.
Getting Bolaise and Barkley back will be a big help providing they haven't lost too much from their injuries especially Bolaise. They are unpredictable and creative and will create/score chances for Everton. They need to bring in a top striker in January and not panic buy. If the right man is not available, then make use of the loan move like they use to be so good at doing over the year.
Bring in a top CB if Funes Mori continues to have injury problems (probably could do with an extra man there anyway), and bring in a full-back or two and they will be back to competing in the top half.
Too many players are past it or failed at other clubs trying to reinvent their careers.