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Pretty sure we won the league with Barthez and Bosnich as first choice in some seasons.…and we won’t win the league until we have one.
Discuss.
Pretty sure we won the league with Barthez and Bosnich as first choice in some seasons.…and we won’t win the league until we have one.
Discuss.
Thats the biggest pile of crap I have heard We won the league with several keepers who are garbage…and we won’t win the league until we have one.
Discuss.
Yeah, don't you remember how he was supposedly letting in all shots from far out just because of that Dzeko friendly goal against us?Yes that’s right, De Gea has won the league when he was supposedly worse than he is now, great.
With any of them at their very best, there's no way I'd swap them for DDG or Henderson.Joe Hart is the one name that stands out as being legitimately crap. Even though he did have a solid season or two early in his City career.
I’d take any of the rest of them at their title winning best over what De Gea’s produced in the last two seasons, or Henderson last season.
the season we won it with him (his debut season) he was quality tbf. At his peak.Pretty sure we won the league with Barthez and Bosnich as first choice in some seasons.
Yesssss, more negativity. Mooooooore!!You could put prime Neuer in goal and we still won't win the league as long as we have Solskjaer
De Gea has become just an easy punching bag on this forum, he's declined a lot but far from a liability this forum likes to portray. Furthermore, central midfield is a bigger problem than GK as of now
De Gea definitely has been a liability. His atrocious end to 18/19 cost us a CL position, his cowardice (hate using the word but it's applicable for that moment) against Leipzig knocked us out of the CL last season, and he made big mistakes in a couple of the semi's that we lost in 19/20. That's just the mistakes in the big notable matches.You could put prime Neuer in goal and we still won't win the league as long as we have Solskjaer
De Gea has become just an easy punching bag on this forum, he's declined a lot but far from a liability this forum likes to portray. Furthermore, central midfield is a bigger problem than GK as of now
DisagreeAbsolutely.
I think he’s better than what we have, yes. Improved them a lot when they signed him.@Pogue Mahone do you consider Mendy top class or do you feel Chelsea in the same boat as United?
I don't think he is to be honest. Not at all.I think he’s better than what we have, yes. Improved them a lot when they signed him.
That was down to having Kepa has their first choice, a 70M quid GK....the biggest GK flop when transfer fee is considered.I think he’s better than what we have, yes. Improved them a lot when they signed him.
I suppose the crux is our keepers are not good enough and having a keeper who is “much better than our current keepers” gives you a much better chance. With which it’s hard to argue.Saying he's better than our current keepers isn't saying much though... As I said, we obviously have differing interpretations of the word. For me, he's a good PL keeper, nothing more.
This is revisionism to be fair. During Fergie's final season where we won the league, Lindegaard started 10 league games if the stats I have are correct so De Gea was still getting dropped and rotated after every minor error (destroying his confidence in the process). Lindegaard got injured in the 2nd half of the season which forced Ferguson to stop messing him about but he was far from peak De Gea at that point. Unpopular opinion but he'd have had a tougher time making it here if Fergie stayed as he was refusing to stick with him and let him build up his confidence.He was a top keeper eight years ago.
He's not now.
Best post 2021.Ederson is not without flaw. Great feet, but prone to blunders.
Im sure you mean, was a top GK.John O'Shea wasn't top class Gk.
Bosnich was A ClassPretty sure we won the league with Barthez and Bosnich as first choice in some seasons.
Well, statistically, never conceded.Im sure you mean, was a top GK.
You were the first person to mention Alisson.L o l at the guy saying ederson and alisson are average keepers
You're right, watching llama these days makes me sad at what he's become - in a different game, different context that first corner could have been costly.He’s been shite for at least two season. Watching him flail at Everton’s first corner reminded me how poor he’s become. Maybe, just maybe, he can somehow get back to his best again this season but it’s unusual for a top player to be so poor for so long, then turn it all around again at his age.
Jury’s out on Henderson. Early signs aren’t good and it’s a big gamble to expect a title-winning season from him.
Thinking about it, the issue is about having a keeper good enough to perform like a top class keeper for one season. You can’t win the league without that. I just think it’s not very likely that DDG or Henderson can pull that sort of form out of the bag this season.
Those two were the following season. It was an injury prone Barthez for 2002/03.I think I'm right that we won the league in 2003 when we had Roy Carroll and Tim Howard between the sticks.
It's a huge issue for us at the moment. I can think of only once that not having a proper established top-class number one did not hold us back and that was in 99-2000 when we oscillated between Van der Gouw, Bosnich and Taibi, very briefly. Rome was not built in a day though and hopefully De Gea can rekindle some form but I am starting to be convinced he will continue experiencing a Casillas like decline rather than a Van der Sar style Indian summer.Those two were the following season. It was an injury prone Barthez for 2002/03.
He didn’t really “choose” him. He went with the best of an average bunch; it’s not like Southgate can sign a new goalkeeper. Although Pickford has just broken numerous clean sheet records and won the Golden Glove at a major tournament, so I’m not going to complain about Southgates decision.If you ever want to debate Southgate's managerial credentials, he chose Pickford.
he really was - although maybe only at his very best for two (possibly three) yearsTim Flowers wasn’t that good, was he?
one of the most overrated goalkeepers we've ever had. utter clown2003 we had Barthez in goal.
I tend to agree in 1998/99, we just knew we could out-score pretty much anyone. that said, I'd give blood to have a Peter S or VDS in the side right nowThat answers that then.
On a broader point, despite the old "defence wins titles" adage, the truth is attack is typically more decisive. So it wouldn't particularly make sense to me that any one given part of that defence has to be top class as a rule.