Fabinho
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Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss United's fantastic win away against Athletic Club in the semi-final of the Europa League.
They also pick out the positives of United's 4-3 loss away at Brentford, and Nik reviews a day out at Old Trafford watching Manchester United Women qualify for the Champions League.
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Is he good? A big upgrade our current Brazilian RB who I want to stay?
If they've literally just signed him, why the hell would they sell him? This makes no sense.
Easy money?
Maybe he's like a Rafael who can actually stay fit (hopefully I'm not cursing him).
They had him on loan and activated a buy clause this summer which now seemed cheap after him impressing apparently.
No reason why it can't happen if they make a good profit.
Apparently Monaco are in a bit of dire straits financially. It would make good business sense to use their low purchase clause from his loan from Portugal (set 2 years ago) and then sell at massive profit.
But why would they want to sell him, if they've just bought him? Thats my point. Yes, they can make some easy money, but surely they'd want to keep the player?
6ft 2 according to wiki. YouTube videos suggests he's a safety first style right back. Capable of going forward. Would likely be a back up to Valencia to start if true.
Then what's the point.
That's only my impression. Just came across a bit too raw and a few sloppy mistakes still.
Because they know that 6m isn't his real value, they don't intend to sell him but if a good offer comes they will.
If you'd rented a car for 2 years and the garage were contractually obliged to sell you the car for, say £1,000 but you knew someone who wanted to buy that car for £5,000, are you saying you wouldn't sell the car because you'd literally just bought it?
Very easy money for Monaco, would be strange if they sold him though.
You obviously aren't aware of Monaco's current financial situation then?
It's strange that a small club like Rio Ave signs someone and then starts loaning him out to Real Madrid and Monaco.
I've only seen him once but I know he's a right back so I'm hoping this one goes through.
I've only seen him once but I know he's a right back so I'm hoping this one goes through.
No no no no, nowhere near good enough.
Wrong, he's been quality and isn't far off Danillo who he will rival for a place in the Brazil side going forward, we should be all over him.
He's nowhere close to Danilo. He's like a center back being played at fullback. Absolutely useless on the ball and considering we're going to need great offensive play from them both moving forward, he's not the man for us.
Fabinho isn't useless on the ball and since he is 21, he will improve a lot.
Are you guys seriously basing his play on youtube videos? 
Excellent RB, would take him in a heartbeat.
Excellent RB, would take him in a heartbeat.
Very good target, if rumours about him, Firmino, Schneiderlin and Otamendi are true then we're doing some really good scouting and identifying our targets very very well.
Is it just me or does he look really old for his age?
Useless on the ball, what? He's good on the ball and only going to get better.
He impressed me a lot against Arsenal.. he stood out more than anyone. He played defensive midfield against us and looked like he had a great defensive mind. I hear he normally plays full back but wouldn't have been able to tell that night.
Obviously you can't make judgements off of one game but there certainly looked to be a player in him.
Obviously you can't make judgements off of one game but there certainly looked to be a player in him.
theres always one
Yep that's my input done with.
Jesus. Starting to think you are constantly wumming.
Both of Monaco's fullbacks (including Kurzawa) are potentially very good players. Fabinho is more in the Ivanovic mold - defensively stout above all else right-back as of now (which isn't necessarily a bad thing to begin with). He might never be an Alves or a Maicon, but his attacking play has shown marked improvement through the last season, and will likely improve in the coming years.
Some fullbacks are great at bombing forward but need to work on their defensive work-rate or positioning, or vice versa - that's all part of a player's progression, and at 21 Fabinho is far from the final product. So a hands-on trainer coach like Van Gaal should be able to aid his development, especially when Fabinho offers a degree of versatility like Bernat or Alaba (albeit to a varying degree). Also worth bearing in mind that United's greatest rightback of all time (and the greatest rightback in Premier League history) wasn't a naturally gifted attacking fullback at 21, but he was tenacious and improved each season - from his crossing technique, to his positioning or timing the runs ins sync with Beckham, etc.
That said, (if De Gea leaves) personally I wouldn't touch Fabinho because of Mendes factor. Might come across as a myopic or counter-productive stance, and he isn't 100 % responsible to be fair - but the partnership hasn't worked out very well for United for the most part, and we might be better served severing all ties with that man (apart from Di Maria of course). There are plenty of other fish in the sea.
Some fullbacks are great at bombing forward but need to work on their defensive work-rate or positioning, or vice versa - that's all part of a player's progression, and at 21 Fabinho is far from the final product. So a hands-on trainer coach like Van Gaal should be able to aid his development, especially when Fabinho offers a degree of versatility like Bernat or Alaba (albeit to a varying degree). Also worth bearing in mind that United's greatest rightback of all time (and the greatest rightback in Premier League history) wasn't a naturally gifted attacking fullback at 21, but he was tenacious and improved each season - from his crossing technique, to his positioning or timing the runs ins sync with Beckham, etc.
That said, (if De Gea leaves) personally I wouldn't touch Fabinho because of Mendes factor. Might come across as a myopic or counter-productive stance, and he isn't 100 % responsible to be fair - but the partnership hasn't worked out very well for United for the most part, and we might be better served severing all ties with that man (apart from Di Maria of course). There are plenty of other fish in the sea.
I don't think LVG sees Valencia as our full time RB , I also don't think he would spend money on a new RB only to have him as a backup to Valencia. I haven't seen anything from him except a you tube clip or two so I am not qualified to comment further....but is he really better than clyne and Coleman?
from 10 million to 20 million now.
He seems capable to play 2 full games in a row so the answer is yes
Looks quite good, but probably unlikely:
http://news.bwin.com/en/football-be...ica-defender-as-rafael-replacement,77969.html
http://news.bwin.com/en/football-be...ica-defender-as-rafael-replacement,77969.html
Could quite easily pass as early 30's in that top picture couldn't he?
This probably belongs in this thread.
I think he would be a decent buy, it's not like there are many great alternatives outthere, he looked solid in most Monaco games I could watch.
€15m is a great deal for this guy.
Where did you see that price?
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