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I'd rather trust Indykaila than Luckhurst.
They both seem pretty confident. Which is why I'd wager they're being told completely different things by people they trust. There's no reason for the MEN to back this horse unless they're being told, in no uncertain terms, that it's not a goer. The sheer lack of English journos even acknowledging the Fabinho link, much less saying there's something to it, would suggest that United have made it know they're not in. If they are and are claiming not to be in for him, what's the point, apart from pre-empting the "We never wanted him anyway" routine? Similarly, there's every reason for Monaco and Fabinho to put it about that we've made an offer, which could explain why it's been made known to Di Marzio.Di Marzio and his staff seem pretty confident and considering his info comes from Juve pulling out if the race which is why he broke the story in the first place. Id take Di Marzio and his Serie A nous over the MEN clickbait merchants anyday of the week.
Pretty much my take on it. It's strange how personal some posters take any negative news that doesn't fit in with what they want to hear. I guarantee at least some of them would be pointing out the times Di Marzio was wrong if the roles were reversed. It's almost become a competition in itself this transfer stuff.They both seem pretty confident. Which is why I'd wager they're being told completely different things by people they trust. There's no reason for the MEN to back this horse unless they're being told, in no uncertain terms, that it's not a goer. The sheer lack of English journos even acknowledging the Fabinho link, much less saying there's something to it, would suggest that United have made it know they're not in. If they are and are claiming not to be in for him, what's the point, apart from pre-empting the "We never wanted him anyway" routine? Similarly, there's every reason for Monaco and Fabinho to put it about that we've made an offer, which could explain why it's been made known to Di Marzio.
Again, of course, all this could end with the MEN writing an article talking about how United have been after him for years and saw off 50 other clubs to get him, but I just don't think it can be as simple as them taking a punt on this story, of all stories, not being true. There are much easier ways to get clicks and not set yourself up to potentially look stupid and misinformed in the process.
When I see some of the accounts that are banned in the twitter thread, it is beyond me why they're banned and not the MEN. Yes, MEN is the club's local paper but apart from the Schneiderlin stuff I can't recall a story they've broken.Why are you banning people like that? Genuine question. People either have the common sense to read stuff and instantly disregard it if they think it's nonsense, or they're incapable of that, which doesn't exactly make worrying about their opinion, or how irritated they've become by an article about football, a particularly great idea.
I don't have any dog in this fight, but MEN clearly post some stuff that's of interest. It's the club's local paper. I can't imagine why banning them would even be considered.
Reading that reddit subforum - they've already banned him. It'll stop giving that xenophobic cnut the attention he craves.
I knew they were bullshitters years ago. I think reason they haven't been banned before is for the reason Brophs said - they're the local paper.Yep they banned anything related to MEN some months ago. I have been commenting on this sub for about a year before leaving them and concentrating on the Caf.
Have to admit they knew they are bullshitter much faster than I knew it.
It's from memory but I did not make it up.If that's from memory I'm impressed. Although you might have just made it all up and nobody will ever check!
What about Mata from Chelsea? I remember thinking that was a load of bollocks when the rumours started. Whoever broke that one deserves praise.
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Very valid point, by the looks of things Di Marzio only found out last night, we seem to be doing whatever we can to keep our transfers close to the chest. I imagine we could've been put off by the valuation of Dier/Matic and Fabinho was our back up, seems plausible.Regarding Fabinho
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Agree. I don't think Fabinho was our first choice, properly Dier but Spurs asking for a massive price led to us moving to other targets : Matic and Fabinho.Very valid point, by the looks of things Di Marzio only found out last night, we seem to be doing whatever we can to keep our transfers close to the chest. I imagine we could've been put off by the valuation of Dier/Matic and Fabinho was our back up, seems plausible.
Fabinho > Dier > Matic.Assuming he doesn't arrive, what would people's 2nd and 3rd choice options be? Matic/Dier don't seem altogether popular.
This. They are similar kinds of players. As long as we get one of the three, I would be happy.Fabinho > Dier > Matic.
But I think any one of the 3 will do the job we'll give them in the team really fine.
Weigl is decent but at this point the club need exactly what Mourinho needs so he can punish all the poets of football even more.Assuming he doesn't arrive, what would people's 2nd and 3rd choice options be? Matic/Dier don't seem altogether popular.
To put pressure on Monaco to accept a lower price? They may have known that the number of clubs Fabinho could plausibly move to at that time had decreased significantly for one reason or the other, and were in no desperate rush to overpay. And it's not like United haven't done it before. It's just as imaginable as Monaco putting it out to indicate to other clubs that they want a bidding war.They both seem pretty confident. Which is why I'd wager they're being told completely different things by people they trust. There's no reason for the MEN to back this horse unless they're being told, in no uncertain terms, that it's not a goer. The sheer lack of English journos even acknowledging the Fabinho link, much less saying there's something to it, would suggest that United have made it know they're not in. If they are and are claiming not to be in for him, what's the point, apart from pre-empting the "We never wanted him anyway" routine? Similarly, there's every reason for Monaco and Fabinho to put it about that we've made an offer, which could explain why it's been made known to Di Marzio.
Again, of course, all this could end with the MEN writing an article talking about how United have been after him for years and saw off 50 other clubs to get him, but I just don't think it can be as simple as them taking a punt on this story, of all stories, not being true. There are much easier ways to get clicks and not set yourself up to potentially look stupid and misinformed in the process.
Speculation about a possible bid from us, nothing else afaik.Whats the latest news?
I think this is pretty much correct. Fabinho is definitely the most entertaining of the three, he's also the least disciplined and weakest defensively so I think that the reporting about Matic and Dier being Mourniho's choices may be correct.This. They are similar kinds of players. As long as we get one of the three, I would be happy.
Steven N'Zonzi and Leander Dendoncker.Assuming he doesn't arrive, what would people's 2nd and 3rd choice options be? Matic/Dier don't seem altogether popular.
That's a very valid question. The options in DM are just shocking. Where are the Davids, the Rijkaards, the Keanes and the Inces gone?Assuming he doesn't arrive, what would people's 2nd and 3rd choice options be? Matic/Dier don't seem altogether popular.
Well sit down there and let me tell you. An Italian dude with a pretty good rep says he is pretty much nailed on and we all started losing our shit! doing up formations and dreaming of a title until along came Luckhurst or whatever his name is, and he started calling it BS and having fights with people on Twitter it was crazy! ,he even wrote an article and everything (admittedly it reads like a petulant child wrote it) !so it's been split down the middle those who believe the sophisticated Italian or those who think there is a bit of truth in what that Casual racist excuse for a journalist said. But as far as Fabinho goes ? No nothing.Any news about the Fab?
N'Zonzi is apparently available for 40m euros, which while not cheap, might represent better value than Matic/Dier. He's better than Fabinho in the air and a more expansive passer, but obviously older and definitely not as dynamic..
Steven N'Zonzi and Leander Dendoncker.
Tbf. he amongst others was probably briefed on the no interest in Fabinho thing, I think he has some integrity and tries to keep a certain level of seriousness considering he is BBC and all.The classic "things can change".
The ultimate get out clause.
He'll probably be right on 1 transfer all summer, and then give it the whole "I WAS RIGHT"
Yes, slim pickings. I think N'Zonzi and Danilo Pereira might fit the bill (although the latter is perhaps a little too limited on the ball). As you say, it's not great.That's a very valid question. The options in DM are just shocking. Where are the Davids, the Rijkaards, the Keanes and the Inces gone?
Are people literally doubting Simon Stone? Ffs. He's literally the most reliable there is, if he said we aren't interested in Fabinho it's because he was briefed by the club that that was the case. While the club may have intentionally lied or genuinely changed their stance on Fabinho, Simon Stone certainly isn't bsing, he only reports what the definitive sources tell him. BBC don't post rumours or bs gossipThe classic "things can change".
The ultimate get out clause.
He'll probably be right on 1 transfer all summer, and then give it the whole "I WAS RIGHT"
Surprised not to find white writing under that last line...Are people literally doubting Simon Stone? Ffs. He's literally the most reliable there is, if he said we aren't interested in Fabinho it's because he was briefed by the club that that was the case. While the club may have intentionally lied or genuinely changed their stance on Fabinho, Simon Stone certainly isn't bsing, he only reports what the definitive sources tell him. BBC don't post rumours or bs gossip
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The problem with BBC is they wait until the deal is widely known before reporting on it. They're really of no use when breaking stories about transfers etc.Are people literally doubting Simon Stone? Ffs. He's literally the most reliable there is, if he said we aren't interested in Fabinho it's because he was briefed by the club that that was the case. While the club may have intentionally lied or genuinely changed their stance on Fabinho, Simon Stone certainly isn't bsing, he only reports what the definitive sources tell him. BBC don't post rumours or bs gossip
why oh why must you hook me in?I really recommend reading this to people who have not seen Fabinho play.
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Are people literally doubting Simon Stone? Ffs. He's literally the most reliable there is, if he said we aren't interested in Fabinho it's because he was briefed by the club that that was the case. While the club may have intentionally lied or genuinely changed their stance on Fabinho, Simon Stone certainly isn't bsing, he only reports what the definitive sources tell him. BBC don't post rumours or bs gossip
That gossip page is a summary of gossip from other newspapers....