To be fair, we have been in rather steep decline since 2012, and we are still at the very top financially.
Fans planning Old Trafford walkout
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Yeah, it was a massive rant about Cantona in FA cup final 96 and my scouse mates taking the absolute piss until that volley. How they thought then, and we all know they still think they are the rightful champions in some spiritual sense despite the last 30 years. How we'll not be waiting 23 more years and it went on a bit too much.
So then I thought better not cos I might make an absolute tit of myself. But then I made an absolute tit of myself anyway cos I forgot to delete the massive rant title bit. Then did it again with this rant. Everything hurts a bit at the minute. Ah well
Hopefully we beat Tranmere
Doesnt feed into the hyperbole dooms day scenario engulfing us at the moment based on the pitch results not going our way.........we are mid table mediocrity now and all the kids don't support us apparently
And that's about another 45 seconds you'll never get back
Think like me? What, you mean sarcastically and intentionally over the top?
The ticket is bought, the Glazers won't care one bit just as long as the money is in the till.
Maybe 58 is related to amount Sporting demand for Bruno.
Edit: Didnt Liverpool fans had walk out when owners tried to pull ticket price or what ever, so not sure what them already paid for tickets has to do with the point of their walkout.
Edit: Didnt Liverpool fans had walk out when owners tried to pull ticket price or what ever, so not sure what them already paid for tickets has to do with the point of their walkout.
How long do you think that could last with city and Liverpool having more success? They’ve already closed the gap and are projected to potentially pass us next year.
That massive tv deal only kicked in recently though, so the effects of it are becoming more pronounced now. We see it in the way the traditional top clubs can no longer cherry pick the best talent at will from other premier league clubs. The so-called smaller clubs have more of a chance to bridge that gap than before (excluding the gap to the sugar daddy clubs obviously). Liverpool in that barren 30 year league spell referred to in the tweet, still went on to win some major trophies to remain relevant, so we would need to do the same if we want to keep our commercial standing where it is. No doubt we will win trophies, but my point is I find it hard to believe that Ed would think that we can isolate the effects of the on-field performance from the commercial aspect of the club for a period of 30 years of non-performance. Unlikely he's as dumb as being made out.
Not that we'll wait that long to win anyway! (fingers crossed)
should be at the 4th minute, the number of years Ole wanting for his rebuild.
This I read on Twitter "This is a reference to Manchester United’s previous home game against Burnley. The meeting ended with a 2-0 victory for the guests. The first win for Burnley at Old Trafford in 58 years. "
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Seems random, although I suppose you need a starting point.
Yes I'm for the protest but this should change
Side note - Walking out on the 58th minute on the game closest to Munich is a PR own goal. Who’s organising this?
My god. Please not the 58th minute. Pure internet pretend grief bollocky shite.
Remember Pool doing this a few years ago? They actually managed to empty the ground it was well planned. They were 2-0 up to Sunderland and ended up drawing 2-2. Klopp was fuming.
Let’s take one of the most significant and the saddest moment in the clubs history out of it for a minute?
In addition...
As I said above, this could turn into a war with the club. They’ll use anything to discredit the protest movement. This is an open goal.
Walkout on 15 minutes. Or better still don’t go in it all..:
Should have kept it simple and just walked out on the hour mark.
I know. I just tried to play devil's advocate. As HJ12 already has stated, the market is completely different today. There is a lot more money in the game and more sources from which they come from.
But based on the last 8 years, Ed has managed to keep the ship sailing while other clubs have come closer. So based on United isolated, he is not totally off the marks with thinking like that. But taken all conditions into account, it probably is dangerous to be so relaxed about it. It also indicates why he is the wrong man to overlook all sporting decisions. He should worry more about us decline on the field than the effect it has financially.
Yeah, that's not true anymore and it's evident we're seeing that by the wage cutting of Sanchez, Smalling, Lukaku, and Young. Non-CL revenue cuts into your cash flow and ability to hand out and sustain those big wages. There are performance clauses (e.g. adidas). That's a bunch of BS.
With TV revenue increases, there is more parity and teams can afford to hold out for mega transfers (e.g. Leicester & Maguire). Matchday revenue is capped by your stadium's capacity, at currently no plans to expand OT.
The amount invested into the squad really hasn't been an issue....it's always been the quality and frequency of investment. It's been a rudderless ship for far too long and zero continuity year over year over year.
You’re improving. I’ll keep an eye on you.
Ed will care though, because an empty stadium hurts the ability to attract and retain sponsors.
And sponsorship deals are literally his life blood.
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I think showing up late rather than leaving early is likely to get more people involved
People will still show up to matches. Even 60K is a lot. Global brands aren't sponsoring within and limited to match going fans. That's not how it works. Football is a global game and each brand leverages different parts of United for their benefit.
A sit in after the match with fans refusing to leave would also work. Likely to have more support as fans who don’t want to miss a game they have paid for can still make a stand.
Or if about 200 fans jump onto the pitch then I'm sure they can't arrest us all.
You realise Woodward doesn’t sort our sponsor deals, right? All our commercial partnerships, the noodle deals, wines etc etc. that people love to mock him for, are overseen by Richard Arnold.
Well I mean the only thing he has going for him is our increasing share price and worth. So he will care if there is anything that negatively impacts that ie a decline in sponsor relations
If you believe this then you've gotta believe the tweets that say woody is determined more than ever to get us back on track.
Also, according to Duncan castles, the glazers are asking more questions about our on pitch affairs. What's made them so interested all of a sudden?
“ build a bonfire “ has been sang by the fans for decades it used to be “scousers on the top and city in the middle “ for countless seasons it is not a call to murder someone for gods sake purely symbolic a fans way of showing utter dislike for the targets of the song .
Can’t remember it ever causing a problem or even being mentioned before the press are desperate to stir up as much controversy about United as they possibly can .Tiresome to say the least
that was a reply to someone offended by a 58 minute walkout. Im offended by neither that or the chant
But.....we'll already be 2-0 down by the 58th minute. It'll look like the fans are walking out on a poor performance instead of demonstrating against the Glazers and Woodward
I’ll be bringing my 2 kids to the game and have no intention of leaving early.
Yes!!! Finally getting off the ground. I'd rather the simpler 60 minute mark though, to remind any potential reference to Munich. I'm sure that can still be rectified. Totally up for this (and smiling glumly for suggesting similar).
If we were winning or drawing, will the fans still walk out will be the bigger question?
It’ll put a huge smile on my face if this does go ahead regardless of what the scoreline is.
It’ll put a huge smile on my face if this does go ahead regardless of what the scoreline is.
I've no problem with the 58th minute, see it as a this isn't what our club is about type thing rather than an Insult
I think that it's even better if we're winning. The protest is aimed at the board, not the players.
Your kids might.
We live in a PC age full of sensitive sods.
Precisely and sends an even clearer message to the board and no doubt the media will be all over it regardless of what the FR result is.
Just hope the fans go through with it.