Fantastic opportunity for the lad.
Federico Macheda Loan watch
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Kiko hat-trick on 13th May?
Helguson is on fire and Bothroyd was their main man last season
I dont think he will walk into the side right away but hopefully he will take chances early.
I think its make or break as far as his Utd career is concerned
I dont think he will walk into the side right away but hopefully he will take chances early.
I think its make or break as far as his Utd career is concerned
A 93rd minute winner to win us the title
.IMO He should get a nod ahead of Campbell and Bothroyd, both of whom I don't rate much. If he gets a consistent run in the strikers position, I've no doubt that Kiko will get 7-8 goals there.
Good for the lad. Hope he works hard on his role and get some good games.
The same Bothroyd who joined them this season and have 2 goals in 15 appearances?
I've got my doubts over Macheda so will be interested to see how he gets on there, as this is pretty much make or break for his United career I would think.
His first touch needs to develop a lot if he's to come back and force is way into our team. He won't get the same kind of service at QPR as with us, but if he can improve his individual game there then it will have been a good move.
His first touch needs to develop a lot if he's to come back and force is way into our team. He won't get the same kind of service at QPR as with us, but if he can improve his individual game there then it will have been a good move.
Bothroyd is usually prefered reason being he's a target man. Macheda would seem to struggle replacing him directly but perhaps he could pick up some of those skills while he's there.
Campbell would be their best goal getter but despite that he only comes off the bench because he cant be the target man
Campbell would be their best goal getter but despite that he only comes off the bench because he cant be the target man
This is exactly what he needs. Hopefully, he gets some proper game time.
Is he eligible for today's clash with Norwich? I'll be watching that one regardless.
I love it when our players go to other Premier League clubs, makes normally boring games much more exciting.
Hopefully he does well, he looked like a the real deal a couple of seasons back but he hasn't really had the chance to kick on his game as his development has stalled as a result.
Hopefully he does well, he looked like a the real deal a couple of seasons back but he hasn't really had the chance to kick on his game as his development has stalled as a result.
I watched Newcastle for six fecking months hoping Rossi would get a look in - needless to say I still hold a grudge to those idiots.
He will get 15 or 20 mins here and there and get a grand total of one goal i reckon. I would love for him to get a successful stint and come back to United a better player, but i'm not sure QPR would be an ideal club for him. Sunderland or even Wigan would have been fine
I'll be interested to see how he can cope with regular football in the Premier League. we've already witnessed his inability to score at Sampdoria, so I'm sceptical as to whether he can deliver or not.
He's going to have a hard time getting into the first team there. Helguson has been playing quite well lately, while there are some other half decent strikers there as well. Obviously, if he's going to be good enough for United though, he has to be good enough to find a way into the QPR first team or not. It's just whether Warnock is willing to take a gamble by throwing him into the team. He may want to hold him back, and just play him occasionally. I think that's the worst case scenario for us, because we want to see what he can do playing regular first team football in this league.
He's going to have a hard time getting into the first team there. Helguson has been playing quite well lately, while there are some other half decent strikers there as well. Obviously, if he's going to be good enough for United though, he has to be good enough to find a way into the QPR first team or not. It's just whether Warnock is willing to take a gamble by throwing him into the team. He may want to hold him back, and just play him occasionally. I think that's the worst case scenario for us, because we want to see what he can do playing regular first team football in this league.
I disagree, I think of our young strikers that Kiko has one of the best first touches. He has good feet and technique when controlling the ball, his problem for me is his pace which is rather slower and I think that will be the main barrier to entry into our team for him. If he can't find a way fit in with our quick counter style then I have a feeling he will be unfortunately shipped off.
Reminds me of my first ever grade card in secondary school, I was disappointed because I got all As. There was no where for me to go but down and much the same has happened with Kiko really, he exploded onto the scene with an astonishing late winner for us which helped us clinch the league and in turn we have put a large amount of pressure and expectation on him to develop into some world class talent by the age of 20-22 like Messi, which is a bit unrealistic. This seems a good move for him though and I hope he capitalises on it and shows everyone he deserves to play for us.
On the bench today so he may well get a little cameo near the end.
Really? In all the games I've seen him in this season I think his first touch has been one of the weakest parts of his game. Seems to really struggle to control it and often ends up chasing it down a few metres because he's overhit it or it's just sort of bounced off him when he's failed to control it initially.
He's better once he's got it under control, but I think his lack of control can seriously limit his options on the pitch. Often he'll be in a promising position but let himself down technically. My overwhelming image of him this season is one of him rueing a missed chance and wearing an expression of frustration.
The same happened to Tevez around 85% of the time he received the ball but people forgot that because of his workrate, not that that absolves Macheda. Admittedly this season I don't particularly recall much from any of his performances but last season I thought it was exceptionally good for his age but then I personally like him so perhaps I'm only adequately recalling the times he's done well.
Yeah when he was with us I always felt that Tevez was not as technically strong as some of our other players, but I think the rest of his game and the fact he was a fairly regular scorer slightly made amends for that. He also became a better play technically when he went to City I think, though obviously his shit attitude made that eventually irrelevant.
Inabililty? He had his last start for them in February, if I remember correctly, so it wasn't that easy to score a goal in a match when you came on for 15 minutes to score for an Italian team which was going to get relegated.
We went through the same shit with Welbeck.
People claim to be better at spotting talent than the coaching staff at the club.
He might not turn out as well as Welbeck or he might be better. I dont know.
His progress has slowed down a bit over the last 18 months or so..
Fergie likes him, he likes it here and he has time on his side.
Plenty of positives. Hope he gets games and kicks on.
People claim to be better at spotting talent than the coaching staff at the club.
He might not turn out as well as Welbeck or he might be better. I dont know.
His progress has slowed down a bit over the last 18 months or so..
Fergie likes him, he likes it here and he has time on his side.
Plenty of positives. Hope he gets games and kicks on.
Barton's red card doesn't help his chances of getting on the pitch, does it?
They might throw on the striker if they have nothing to lose.
Hope Norwich score again quickly
Hope Norwich score again quickly
Warming up at the moment. Looks like he might get some gametime tonight
Just got his debut for QPR!
You can't say too much after a 10-minute cameo. Norwich defended very well, but I think Macheda's movement was quite good.
It's nice to see that Warnock likes him and gave Kiko some minutes in his first full day in London.
It's nice to see that Warnock likes him and gave Kiko some minutes in his first full day in London.
He was. Although he looked mighty tentative on that first chance, like it was too good to be true to score within 30 seconds of the loan.
I think they may have something if SWP and Taarabt start picking him out.
At least he won't be stick out on the wings here. Would love to see him playing upfront closer to goal as this is where he can be best utilised.
Thats absolute horseshit tbf.
Why?
Pretty certain He didnt start more than 2 games in row once. He was generally used as a sub as Maciek said.
Sampdoria as a team were in turmoil. They had to somehow replace Cassano and Pazzini which was never going to happen. They reverted to playing some absolutely awful football with one lad up top.
From a football point of view It was never the opportunity it might have seemed. In terms of personal development that stint could still be the making of him as a footballer.
Fair play. I didn't watch him for Sampdoria (and in fairness didn't make that initial comment!), but I was curious, since I know he didn't score for them (perhaps in the cup he did).
I always felt a move in England, even Championship level, was what he needed. Apart from experiencing English football, Sampdoria just never seemed like a good move. A year on, it seems this could be the right development move for him.
I know he scored in his 2nd match for them. I think it was the in the cup as well.
He only started maybe 5 or 6 games in total. It was a genuine no win situation for him football wise.
I think the QPR move will work out a lot better for him. Maybe you could make sure he's not out on the tear every night
I still don't know why the club thought that would be a good move for him.
as i remember he insisted on a move to italy...sampdoria were trying to replace Pazzini and Cassano with loans
its not always the clubs fault - look at Rossi and Newcastle - those idiots didnt give Rossi time on the pitch, preferring guys like Ameobi - they ended up relegated as i remember
I'm still torn on this loan for Macheda - can't help but think he would be better going to the championship - QPR have Helguson, DJ Campbell, Bothroyd and they prefer to play 1 up - this could mean ten minutes here, ten minutes there unless Macheda gets some early goals
going somewhere in the championship would have been good for his confidence, would have built him up and he would get regular football over the next few months
hopefully I'm wrong but I can't see too many starts for him at QPR
But the club should have said that he needs experience in english football because the football in England and Italy is totally different...........anyway that is in the past.
If Kiko can't beat Helguson/Bothroyd/Campbell/Mackie/Hulse/Smith for games in the next months then he's poor.............i've said it in a other thread all QPR strikers aren't good enough for a starting XI place for a PL team.
But they have track records, at least 4 of them do. They can score goals, Campbell and Helguson in the prem, Mackie, Bothroyd in decent numbers in the Championship. Bothroyd is a decent target man, as has been mentioned elsewhere. Macheda has to show he can bring something concrete to the table in the Premier League. Hasn't done that yet for us.
Also, he can get away with being a passenger the odd day with United. That won't be acceptable for a club in QPR's position.
Hope he gets game time, wish him the best, I'm a bit worried though,