Football myths

[El cangrejo]

I'll start with:

Newcastle United in the 1995-96 season were "The Entertainers"

66 goals in 38 Premier League games is a pretty mediocre total for a title challenging team. And that's not just hindsight. United and Liverpool both outscored Newcastle that season.

 

[Murder on Zidane's Floor]

I'll start with:

Newcastle United in the 1995-96 season were "The Entertainers"

66 goals in 38 Premier League games is a pretty mediocre total for a title challenging team. And that's not just hindsight. United and Liverpool both outscored Newcastle that season.

I think this is more based around the fact their games were entertaining, a lot of come backs and ridiculous scores.

Plus any reason to post this:

 

[Keeps It tidy]

That great defenders never have to go to the ground or make last ditch tackles. Even Rio and Nests have had to make great slide tackles. Defenders will often have to get their shorts dirty.

 

[Needham]

Martin Keown was the first gorilla to play in the PL. He was human.

 

[Siorac]

Torres always tortured Vidic. Not true: Vidic was generally shite against Liverpool, for whatever reason, regardless of whether Torres was playing or not. The whole myth seems to stem from that godforsaken 1-4 game at Old Trafford where Vidic was dreadful.

United had a meaner defence in 2008/09 than in 2007/08: this is more of a Redcafé myth, as usually 08/09 is brought up as the peak of the Rio-Vidic era. But we conceded fewer goals in both the league and the Champions League in the previous season. The insane run of clean sheets skewed the perception somewhat.

Milan were insanely good in 2006/07: not really, they were clearly past their best. They were insanely good against us at the San Siro but that doesn't mean they were some all-conquering superpower throughout the campaign.

Andy Cole was a profligate striker who missed a lot of chances: when the feck did the world start taking Glen Hoddle's word as gospel?

 

[Redcy]

Liverpool are everybody's second team.

During the 80s Liverpool were an entertaining team to watch.

 

[Redcy]

More City fans than United fans in Manchester.

 

[Redcy]

You cant raise your hands or you will get sent off nowadays

 

[El cangrejo]

United had a meaner defence in 2008/09 than in 2007/08: this is more of a Redcafé myth, as usually 08/09 is brought up as the peak of the Rio-Vidic era.

Didn't Jonny Evans start a lot of games that year?

 

[Siorac]

Didn't Jonny Evans start a lot of games that year?

Yes he did. He was quite good, too.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

1. Denis Law's goal for Man City relegated United - we actually would have gone down anyway
2. Ryan Giggs could have played for England (no, he just played for England schoolboys)
3. Keane ended Alf Inge Haaland's career - no, different leg, different time ended career
4. John Lukic 'survived' Munich - no, his Mum did. He was born years later
5. Smalling is a top class defender

 

[OnlyTwoDaSilvas]

Every visiting goalkeeper at Old Trafford last season played out of their skin.


Nah. Terrible finishing. They made a lot of saves, the vast majority were comfortable. Aside from the Tom Heaton Schmeichel-esque starfish save, there were no outrageous saves made. All relatively comfortable, where if they had gone in, questions would have been asked of the goalkeeper. We seemed incapable of putting shots into the corners. Zlatan had a habit of going for the near post instead of across the goalkeeper, and so many shots were just too close to the goalkeepers reach.

 

[thegregster]

Jose's team play defensive football.

His Chelsea teams in terms of goal scored.
2nd
Joint 1st
2nd
3rd
2nd

In two out of his three seasons at Real he outscored Barca.

 

[Random Task]

Decisions even themselves out over the course of a season.

Do they feck!

 

[El cangrejo]

Ryan Giggs could have played for England (no, he just played for England schoolboys)

Only because of that daft "home nations agreement" which can and has been ignored in other cases. There was actually no rule stopping him playing for England and, having spent most of his life in England, he'd easily have been able to qualify on residency grounds anyway (if such things as English and Welsh citizenship actually existed).

 

[K2K]

Barcelona are more than a club.

Nah, they are just like any other big club with their fair share of dodgyiness.

 

[el magico]

'Famous European nights at Anfield'.

 

[rocks13]

Only because of that daft "home nations agreement" which can and has been ignored in other cases. There was actually no rule stopping him playing for England and, having spent most of his life in England, he'd easily have been able to qualify on residency grounds anyway (if such things as English and Welsh citizenship actually existed).

No he couldn't. The residency rules weren't so slack then. He was born in Wales, had Welsh parents, he couldn't have played for England.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Only because of that daft "home nations agreement" which can and has been ignored in other cases. There was actually no rule stopping him playing for England and, having spent most of his life in England, he'd easily have been able to qualify on residency grounds anyway (if such things as English and Welsh citizenship actually existed).

Not sure that applies to schoolboys matches?

 

[AshRK]

Arsenal play entertaining football

Jose was a failure at real madrid

Jose's football is boring.

Pep and klopp are some saints

La liga is better than premier league

 

[El cangrejo]

No he couldn't. The residency rules weren't so slack then. He was born in Wales, had Welsh parents, he couldn't have played for England.

Wales and England are part of the same country. As there's only British citizenship and nothing else, it was up to the British Football Associations to come to an agreement amongst themselves. FIFA always had the right to overrule and allow any British player to play for whatever team he chose.

I'm not sure about what you say about the residency rules either. John Barnes played for England despite being a Jamaican born a Jamaican mother and Trinidadian father.

 

[rocks13]

I think this was the rule at the time which you are clearly misunderstanding:-

'At the time of Barnes' international career, FIFA's national team eligibility criteria allowed British passport holders to represent one of the British football associations if they had no blood ties to the United Kingdom''

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Wales and England are part of the same country. As there's only British citizenship and nothing else, it was up to the British Football Associations to come to an agreement amongst themselves. FIFA always had the right to overrule and allow any British player to play for whatever team he chose.

I'm not sure about what you say about the residency rules either. John Barnes played for England despite being a Jamaican born a Jamaican mother and Trinidadian father.

Nope, not true.

Something mooted several years ago (think Scotland raised it) that could have changed things but well after Giggs had played for Wales (and regardless, he would NEVER have chosen England).

Edit.... oh and P.S.. Wales IS a country.

 

[Gio]

That great defenders never have to go to the ground or make last ditch tackles. Even Rio and Nests have had to make great slide tackles. Defenders will often have to get their shorts dirty.

I think the point stands though that defenders who read the game better have to do less last-ditch tackling.

That said, it's not an absolute and some of the greatest defenders' most memorable performances such as Cannavaro v Germany in 2006 or Baresi v Brazil in 1994 involved a lot of both.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Big teams don't care about / take the FA Cup seriously

For the last 20 years or so, all finals bar two have been won by United, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and City (when they had the money, and they should have beaten Wigan to make it two for them)

 

[Redcy]

The power has shifted from United to City in Manchester.

 

[Redcy]

Lukaku doesn't score against the big teams

 

[rocks13]

England is a great footballing nation.

 

[BarstoolProphet]

Every team in the world, including pub teams, have to wait for the NYSE to open before they can announce transfers.

 

[Sparky10Legend]

That shirt sales cover the cost of a galactico signing.

 

[Robertd0803]

Arsenal play football the right way.

Every Italian league game is either a 0-0 draw or a 1-0 win and the team that scores shuts up shop for the rest of the game.

No one (players included) cares about international football these days.

Man City deserve to be where they are and its not at all due to oil money.

 

[Offside]

That a player who scores loads in a shit team will find it easier at a bigger club because better players will be around him.

That the great Spanish team were boring. It was only the Euro 2012 where they were a bit boring. In 2010 their football was outstanding and they only won 1-0 every game because other teams played so defensive in fear. In 2008 their football was incredible too.

That Pogba was poor last season.

 

[Vidyoyo]

That players above the age of 27 aren't actually one year older than they are.

 

[rocks13]

That players who are outstanding at 18-19 years old will naturally progress into the best players in the world in their twenties.

 

[Rado_N]

That shirt sales cover the cost of a galactico signing.

This and the NYSE bollocks are my two most hated.

 

[Blind]

John Stones is great on the ball.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

Man City played attractive football last season

 

[Android1974]

Pogba can't play in a midfield two is, right now, my favorite.

 

[Nick7]

Arsenal play football the right way.

Man City played attractive football last season

These annoy me.

That players above the age of 27 aren't actually one year older than they are.

What?

 

[Squaaaad]

When a player turns 30 he becomes crap