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Tenerife has excellent odds VS Baskonia either to win or AH.

They are a solid team and Baskonia might be less motivated because it's regular season and they usually prefer to focus on securing Euroleague playoffs.
Went on AH+3.5 and it was really comfortable. Match ended 78-79 and could had gone either way.
 

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Small punt on DC Santa Clara
No BTTS on Brann - Bodo/Glimt
DC AIK Solna

FMP AH-6

Verdasco to win (or arb)
 

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Tatum over 16.5 points
Towns over 27.5 points
Doncic over 6.5 assists
Morant over 6.5 assists
Davis over 25.5 points
Beal over 25.5 points

All quite risky but why not try. Got over 32/1 odds total. Tried avoiding potential blowout wins & losses so that none of them sit fourth quarter.
Don't know sport you are betting on, but if these selection are pick em's you are getting shafted well and truly with odds of only 32/1
should be more like 60/1
 

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Don't know sport you are betting on, but if these selection are pick em's you are getting shafted well and truly with odds of only 32/1
should be more like 60/1
All are between 1.7 and 1.8. Most international bookies are illegal here so it doesn't really mean what I could get elsewhere.
 

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All are between 1.7 and 1.8. Most international bookies are illegal here so it doesn't really mean what I could get elsewhere.
We have the same problem in PT, but 1xbet is in the limbo of legality if you use skrill or neteller as bank account. They have the best odds from the half-legal houses and they have license to operate in EU.

The bookie himself is reliable and is quite fast on customer support.
 

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Verdasco won. Didn't even did the arb, because he lost the first set, and when he won the second the odd wasn't high enough to create an arb bet. The third set was solved pretty quickly so I felt confident it was solved.
It can't go wrong all the time :D
 

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We have the same problem in PT, but 1xbet is in the limbo of legality if you use skrill or neteller as bank account. They have the best odds from the half-legal houses and they have license to operate in EU.

The bookie himself is reliable and is quite fast on customer support.
We have a few that still operate with these but any higher withdrawal could be caught by tax controls who monitor bank transactions. If they find you gambling at foreign bookies they don’t hand you punishment based on fixed rate but your income as far as I remember. Considering two promotions and significant bonus I received at work this year, if I got caught this year I would never be able to pay my fines. This is not a year to get caught gambling for me. :lol:
 

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We have a few that still operate with these but any higher withdrawal could be caught by tax controls who monitor bank transactions. If they find you gambling at foreign bookies they don’t hand you punishment based on fixed rate but your income as far as I remember. Considering two promotions and significant bonus I received at work this year, if I got caught this year I would never be able to pay my fines. This is not a year to get caught gambling for me. :lol:
We have the same restrictions, and that's why I advised you to get a visa card associated with your neteller / skrill / revolut account (with no association with your personal bank accounts whatsoever) and you can use that card for shopping and even withdrawal at ATM, but the ideal is to use the money to acquire goods / shopping, since it's much less traceable. Unless you are wining big bucks (not my case), your transactions won't raise red flags.

Bare in mind that opening an online account doesn't differ much from a physical one, so don't use fake names, etc, because those companies still have to follow compliance rules & guidelines.
 

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We have the same problem in PT, but 1xbet is in the limbo of legality if you use skrill or neteller as bank account. They have the best odds from the half-legal houses and they have license to operate in EU.

The bookie himself is reliable and is quite fast on customer support.
1xbet will almost indefinitely rob you at some point, they're the most corrupt bookmaker currently operating. Make sure you never leave much money in the account.
 

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1xbet will almost indefinitely rob you at some point, they're the most corrupt bookmaker currently operating. Make sure you never leave much money in the account.
They have excellent odds and are one of the few bookies that accept PT registrations. And since I'm not a big gambler or make big profits, I still have no complaints when I make an withdrawal. They are very bureaucratic and the process can be very slow at times, but until now the money gets into the card.

They are legal in most of EU countries, though.

The 100% legal bookies here in PT have some poor odds. I still use them because of live markets, since 1xbet interface is terrible.

most of bookmakers are run by people who will try to extend schemes in the real world, 1xbet is just more known because they dominate russian market and have a lot of influence on "strange events".
 

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They have excellent odds and are one of the few bookies that accept PT registrations. And since I'm not a big gambler or make big profits, I still have no complaints when I make an withdrawal. They are very bureaucratic and the process can be very slow at times, but until now the money gets into the card.

They are legal in most of EU countries, though.

The 100% legal bookies here in PT have some poor odds. I still use them because of live markets, since 1xbet interface is terrible.

most of bookmakers are run by people who will try to extend schemes in the real world, 1xbet is just more known because they dominate russian market and have a lot of influence on "strange events".
Is PT Portugal?

They're legal in EU countries because they run off a Curacao license which I can get in 5 minutes. Would definitely only use them as a last resort, in your scenario I'd be using them as well but just be wary.


On a similar note, https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0007bwl This is a good listen about how corrupt the whole Curacao licensing scheme is.
 

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1xbet will almost indefinitely rob you at some point, they're the most corrupt bookmaker currently operating. Make sure you never leave much money in the account.
22bet is the same owners methinks, russian owners using Curacao license. Never been through so much hassle to get my money, but got them in the end after wasting hours fulfilling "ID requirements". Pretty sure I had to send dicpics at one point holding my drivers license next to it, even threatened them, probably not a wise thing to do though :nervous:
 
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All are between 1.7 and 1.8. Most international bookies are illegal here so it doesn't really mean what I could get elsewhere.
Bitcoin betting is becoming big,there any many sportsbooks the advantages is only an email is needed to bet.
Same as mentioned above I wouldn't want to have more than 500£ in he account as they are not regulated like in the Uk.
Many have been around for years(cloudbet nitrogen sports, 1xbit).
No need anyway to leave large anounts in account as withdrawels are pretty much instant, I always withdraw each night any winnings and leave only enough for next bet, as agin if deposit only takes 10 mins for the bitcoin to arrive from you.
 

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I can see there are some very knowledgeable people on here who know all about restrictions,licenses,tax controls etc but do any of you actually win any money? That IS the question I would like to know
 

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I can see there are some very knowledgeable people on here who know all about restrictions,licenses,tax controls etc but do any of you actually win any money? That IS the question I would like to know
If you've actually read replies to your other posts you'd realise there are a couple pro gamblers who do it full time and turn a profit.

You're like a broken record "you can't win money on football" and don't like to be told you're wrong.
 

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I am a person who makes my living through Gambling...

When you say you make a living from Gambling, do you mean you actually gamble? Or do you earn a wage working for an organisation like Gamcare helping people in recovery?
 

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Is PT Portugal?

They're legal in EU countries because they run off a Curacao license which I can get in 5 minutes. Would definitely only use them as a last resort, in your scenario I'd be using them as well but just be wary.


On a similar note, https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0007bwl This is a good listen about how corrupt the whole Curacao licensing scheme is.
Yes, pt is Portugal. And we have very few legal bookies, the others won't accept pt registrations.
I mainly use them on AH and btts. They have very good odds on those markets. Will take a read.
 

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If you've actually read replies to your other posts you'd realise there are a couple pro gamblers who do it full time and turn a profit.

You're like a broken record "you can't win money on football" and don't like to be told you're wrong.
He must have lost shit loads and can't take anybody else not winning
 

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I can see there are some very knowledgeable people on here who know all about restrictions,licenses,tax controls etc but do any of you actually win any money? That IS the question I would like to know
I rarely make a bad year because I learned with mistakes.
My betting choices are arbitrage, euro basket underdogs and AH, and I prefer double chance on football, but if I see a good odd on a three way results I pick them. If you get to know your markets and pick good odds, you won't need a 50/50 hit rate to make profit.

I only make between 1% to 3% in profit margin, which doesn't give me much money, but it also makes me to rarely need to deposit money.
 

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22bet is the same owners methinks, russian owners using Curacao license. Never been through so much hassle to get my money, but got them in the end after wasting hours fulfilling "ID requirements". Pretty sure I had to send dicpics at one point holding my drivers license next to it, even threatened them, probably not a wise thing to do though :nervous:
Different owners but same principle. I never actually knew 22bet was dodgy until recently. Their sister site is Tonybet (licensed and regulated by IBAS in the UK so its 100% legit and above board) I just assumed 22bet would be the same. I used them with no issues but a couple of friends have struggled to get money out also. betbull asked a friend to send a selfie of them outside a well known British landmark as verification:lol:
 

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Bitcoin betting is becoming big,there any many sportsbooks the advantages is only an email is needed to bet.
Same as mentioned above I wouldn't want to have more than 500£ in he account as they are not regulated like in the Uk.
Many have been around for years(cloudbet nitrogen sports, 1xbit).
No need anyway to leave large anounts in account as withdrawels are pretty much instant, I always withdraw each night any winnings and leave only enough for next bet, as agin if deposit only takes 10 mins for the bitcoin to arrive from you.
This may be a stupid question as I have zero experience with Bicoin betting sites at all. How does your balance work in terms of price fluctuations with Bitcoin? Eg say I won 1 bitcoin today profit on a bet, so I won £7k or whatever. If Bitcoin drops tomorrow, does my balance value drop also?
 

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I love all the vitriol from my fellow posters, perhaps some of you should learn to show goodness and kindness,it is far better and give you a tremendous feeling of well-being ! I had to look up who Gamcare were M15 Red though obviously you are most familiar with them....
 

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Different owners but same principle. I never actually knew 22bet was dodgy until recently. Their sister site is Tonybet (licensed and regulated by IBAS in the UK so its 100% legit and above board) I just assumed 22bet would be the same. I used them with no issues but a couple of friends have struggled to get money out also. betbull asked a friend to send a selfie of them outside a well known British landmark as verification:lol:
I can confirm that. It's always a torment and sometimes they will ask for random themed selfies, but usually the requests are selfies while holding your id
 

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Quiet first half from the QPR on the attacking front and Jordon Hugill's obviously a big loss but QPR do average a 2nd half goal around 75% of the time at home over the past 12 months. Brentford are around 50/50 over the same period so with a bit more imputus at the start of the 2nd half btts might be ok around 55/60 mins at around 2.2..

Christ.. scored just as I posted.
 

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We're off to Peru instead. I read a pretty respectable right up making a case for the away side scoring in this game earlier today. The price is currently 1.8.. I will be taking evens around 40 mins.

Peru game is Ayacucho to score.
 
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I love all the vitriol from my fellow posters, perhaps some of you should learn to show goodness and kindness,it is far better and give you a tremendous feeling of well-being ! I had to look up who Gamcare were M15 Red though obviously you are most familiar with them....
I wasn't taking the piss. It was a serious question. You said you made a living through gambling, yet have never posted a selection as far as I'm aware? Instead you warn people of the dangers of gambling? Hence the Gamcare question. Not rocket science is it pal?
 

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@Spiersey the dollar/pound value of bitcoin has no relevance to the bet.
you deposit bitcoin, bet with bitcoin, and withdraw your winnings in bitcoin

Lets say you aquire one tenth of a bitcoin for 1000 dollars
You would then deposit your 0.1 bitcoin with the bookie
iif you bet the 0.1 at evens, and win you have 0.2 bitcoin in your bookie account

When you withdraw from bookie he will send you 0.2 bitcoin.

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@Spiersey the dollar/pound value of bitcoin has no relevance to the bet.
you deposit bitcoin, bet with bitcoin, and withdraw your winnings in bitcoin

Lets say you aquire one tenth of a bitcoin for 1000 dollars
You would then deposit your 0.1 bitcoin with the bookie
iif you bet the 0.1 at evens, and win you have 0.2 bitcoin in your bookie account

When you withdraw from bookie he will send you 0.2 bitcoin.

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Yeah, but wouldn't the bitcoin volatility play a part? When you place the bet the let say 1 bitcoin is worth 10000 euro, but by time the bet comes in, the market has crashed and it's worth only 1000 euro?

So in theory, you could win a bet and lose money no?
 

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@onenightonly

you are quite correct
although the opposite is also true.

As a side note imagine betting in bitcoin 3 or 4 years ago and building your bank up.
 

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Different owners but same principle. I never actually knew 22bet was dodgy until recently. Their sister site is Tonybet (licensed and regulated by IBAS in the UK so its 100% legit and above board) I just assumed 22bet would be the same. I used them with no issues but a couple of friends have struggled to get money out also. betbull asked a friend to send a selfie of them outside a well known British landmark as verification:lol:
Haha, that's hilarious. Photoshop of them walking out of 10 Downing St maybe? In the dugout next to Ole?
 

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Small punt on DC Santa Clara [FAIL] Braga is very irregular, but they scored at the 1st half and things got easier. No chance to recover my position so let it be.
No BTTS on Brann - Bodo/Glimt [FAIL] No chance to recover this one. Just let it go.

DC AIK Solna [Recovery Win] I was keeping up with the game. 1st half was dull and seemed to be an obvious 0-0 game. 2nd half Malmo pushed a lot and I became scared. Managed to close my position at 72 minutes and make a very small profit. 7 minutes later Malmo scored. Some luck involved here.

FMP AH-6 [Recovery win] I checked the game at half-term and it was more balanced than expected. Live market on the rescue, and managed to close my position a little bit above even at 4th Quarter when FMP made 70-61.

Verdasco to win (or arb) [FULL WIN] didn't even need to arb
Not the best day, but at least no harm was done. Closed the day a little above even thanks to Verdasco full win.
 

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Simple bets:
Small punt on At. Madrid 1st half
Parma to win
Inter -1

My picks for possible arbs:

Edmund - Berankis

Berlin - Milano
Lyon - Baskonia
PAOK - Neptunas
Bonn - Besiktas
 

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Really obvious play in the WTA Finals, but I'd be very surprised if either Barty or Kvitova lost.

Barty/Kvitova double @1.83
 

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Good lord, Barty lost :(. I have to run to the gym before I tilt bet some crap.
If it was easy, bookies would all be bankrupt by now. I placed a small bet of 5€ because i understand very little about WTA markets, but was willing to take a punt after looking at your logic and consulting both matches H2H and WTA ranking, it seemed a reasonable punt.

I was having lunch at the time but you could had made an insurance bet when Barty won the first set, because Bertens odd skyrocketed at the time. You could basically put 1€ and not only recover the 5€ and still have profit.
 

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Good lord, Barty lost :(. I have to run to the gym before I tilt bet some crap.
Didn't back Bertens today, but normally do against top 10 opposition - she has a very good record in these matches. She is the WTA version of (last seasons atleast) Wolves!;)
 

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