Huge job on Tuchel's hands as clearly a massive culture shift is required.
Rudiger needs to be the first one out the door if this is true - he's shit and done nothing in a Chelsea shirt to warrant such self-entitled views.
Frank Lampard | Former Chelsea manager
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Huge job on Tuchel's hands as clearly a massive culture shift is required.
Rudiger needs to be the first one out the door if this is true - he's shit and done nothing in a Chelsea shirt to warrant such self-entitled views.
Chelsea fan isn't he?
He did a piece a week ago saying Chelsea should give Lampard more time. Got a few responses pointing out the media hypocrisy of Lampard v Ole.
Writing it as a fan and trying to dress it up as journalism - don't remember his continual supportive articles for previous managers. Deep down, he'll know the job he did was 'ok' (nothing more) and that Roman doesn't have patience.
Lampard was the 5th longest serving manager in the Roman era - 4th if you count Mourinho just once.
1. Mourinho 1.0 - 3 years and 3 months
2. Mourinho 2.0 - 2 years and 6 months
3. Ancelotti - 1 year and 11 months
4. Conte - 2 years and 0 months
5. Lampard - 1 year and 6 months
1. Mourinho 1.0 - 3 years and 3 months
2. Mourinho 2.0 - 2 years and 6 months
3. Ancelotti - 1 year and 11 months
4. Conte - 2 years and 0 months
5. Lampard - 1 year and 6 months
Its not quite what I meant. Ole has managed his boyhood Norwegian team, took a crack at the prem (probably with the intention of gaining the attn of United) and finally got the United job.
I imagine both Gerrard and Rooney have ultimate eyes on Liverpool and Everton.
What im asking is. These guys are selective, do they want to move around middling teams all their career; or is it about reaching those prized roles.
Lampard achieved that and failed. My question is does he want to start again at a Palace or Celtic (If lucky) and then maybe get the Leicester gig or such. Or does he just throw the towel in and earn a wedge as a sky pundit?
Would the Gerrards, Lampards, Rooneys be happy with an average managerial track record?
I think if and when it ends for Ole, he'll disappear again - ultimately maybe getting some sort of role at United.
I actually think Solskjaer would probably get interest from other PL teams/abroad, just because he has shown he knows how to build a side already. Not won anything yet, but that's what a lot of teams need
It's a tough one. With a young family and millions in the bank, why bother with the stress of being a manager?
I think we'll see Lampard as a manager again, he seems the type to want to prove that he can do it.
I wouldn't blame him for going the Gary Neville route (fail at a big club then give up) though, I would myself if I could get as nice a job as a pundit on Shy.
Sure, but would he want it? I think he's had the 2 jobs he's dreamed of. Maybe the norwegian national team?
As good as a Leipzig or Leicester are would he want it? Or would he be happier going back to his home town in Norway.
Look at Cruyff, Ajax and Barca. He could have managed elsewhere but was happier to retire and live in Barcelona.
Lampard may want to carry on with the hope of ending up back at Chelsea once more polished.
Gerrard has actually pulled of a masterstroke going Rangers so soon, weak league but he gains the experience of managing a club with similar level of expectations as what he will eventually face if/when he gets the Liverpool job. Frank should look at a similar type of job for his next gig, possibly even the other old firm club if they fire Lennon.
I could see him getting the Celtic job and would be tempting, but wht locate to glasgow when you live in luxury in London?
Beyond that I think he'd have to start from the Championship or at the bottom of the Prem.
I'd have given him to the end of the season. Things can change incredibly fast this season, 1 win can make your league position look completely different.
To be honest I see Rangers and Celtic as similiar tests to a Derby, just with bigger name. The Championship is more competitive.
Ultimately though, if Gerrard took the Liverpool job after Rangers he might end up like Lampard or Souness. Maybe hitting their dream job too early is a mistake.
Would Lampard be happy moving around teams for the next 10yrs with the hope of the a crack at Chelsea again?
What goes around comes around.
He's gotten managers he didn't like sacked and no tears should be cried for players doing the same to him.
He's gotten managers he didn't like sacked and no tears should be cried for players doing the same to him.
While i agree the Championship is more competitive the old firm clubs offer the pressure of expectation to prepare manager's better for a Chelsea/Liverpool job. Maybe the Molde experience as much as it's bantered has actually helped Ole going forward at United? Weaker league or not an expectation to win is an expectation to win. If he went to Celtic and wrestled the title back from Rangers that could potentially quickly lead to a middling Bundi club, overachieve there and that could lead potentially to a Porto/Benfica esque job offer, do well there (especially in Europe) and show he's evolved as a manager then all of a sudden the Chelsea job may open up again and he'll still have two decades left of management.
If he's half as determined a manager as he was a player this will only serve to make him even more determined to ultimately make it with us (or failing that another top club) one day.
Couldn't say no but this was a huuuuge promotion from one season at Derby. Clearly a beneficiary of "legend male privilege"
Rudiger is terrible, playing him is enough to deserve being fired.
Yup
I think they tried to make him the English Guardiola
Fair to say, Winter taking a little stick on Twitter for his 100% devotion to Lampard. And a few jokes too...
Frank loved the fines.
Frank loved the fines.
Apparently Kante was the biggest payer, for lateness.
Would be interested to know how much they raised for the local charities the fines went to.
Can any Chelsea fans comment on this? I have heard of this viewpoint before but not really sure if it's been confirmed. important players like Terry Hazard and Lampard getting their managers fired, how much truth is in there?
Wow, Matt Law is frantically texting his source tonight, demanding answers.
Sadly no reply yet, because .... well he only has two hands and you can only text from one phone at a time.
It's an exaggerated stigma that pops up with us but the reality is often when manager's are sacked a big if not main reason is discord with the player's. United with Moyes/Mou (Rio practically admitted to not liking the former on TV), Arsenal with Emery, Real with Mou/Rafa, Inter with Rafa, Bayern with Carlo a few high profile examples of the top of my head but when it's other clubs it's widely accepted as part of the game, when it's us we apparently have many versions of Satan on our playing staff, it's ridiculous!
Remember that Athletic puff piece last season where the journalist was praising Lampard as some kind of revolutionary because he had a WhatsApp group with his coaches?
Edit: This one
https://theathletic.com/1980864/202...ina-roman-chelsea/?source=user_shared_article
Edit: This one
https://theathletic.com/1980864/202...ina-roman-chelsea/?source=user_shared_article
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Yeah right, wouldn't be surprised if he was firing bb's at them. That sort of thing is encouraged at Chelsea
Did I read right?Frank loved the fines.
"For doping purposes...'" (The last bulletin before the red text)
Terry, Lampard, Drogba and I believe A. Cole together were rumoured to have a lot of influence, more than players at other English clubs. How much they really had to do with the manager sackings, especially AVB’s is hard to tell, but the rumours were very strong in AVB’s case, stronger than they are now after Lampard’s sacking.
If they miss a test they get in huge trouble (ask Rio!). The fine should be really high if they bugger off on holiday without letting the club know and subsequently miss a test.Did I read right?
"For doping purposes...'" (The last bulletin before the red text)
AVB was wanting to bring through a new team where Terry and Lampard were not the cornerstones. They didn't like that and caused friction when the results inevitably declined as they will do during a transition.
They play innocent but they know deep down that they and their mates in the media dog piled AVB to cost him his job and secure the positions of Lampard and Terry at Chelsea.
Terry also said he didn't racially abuse Anton Ferdinand
Drogba was the one creating far more problems if I recall correctly - he'd been dropped for Torres and Sturridge most of the time.
Yup
I think they tried to make him the English Guardiola
Times is also firmly Ole in so I don't think its down to Frank alone.
The Miserable Existence of Once Sacked Former Chelsea Manager Frank Lampard
Drogba fell out with Scolari, can't recall anything specific re him and AVB.
The two the latter fell out with out of the old guard were by all accounts Frank and Ash.
We obviously don't know what goes on inside the club, and I didn't really buy it at the time either that the old guard went upstairs to bitch about AVB, but that Napoli away leg where he left Essien, Lampard and Ashley Cole on the bench seemed ominous, even at the time. I felt like he was dead man walking even before kick off.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-legend-didier-drogba-lifts-6819990
It was definitely more specifically Drogba under Scolari but I recall him being far more vocal than others about AVB - certainly more so than Terry, for instance.
The fact that Lampard has been part of a group of players to have driven out managers, I have no sympathy for him if some players have gone to the board.