Frank Lampard | Burnley?

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Oh, no the 'no one could do a better job' people are popping up again. Why are there so many clueless people in the world.

The fans obsession with the board is not helping. How about being obsessed with the absolute shite job the manager is doing.
The more I watch highlights and games this season the more I believe the posts about us having a poorer squad than everyone else so we will get relegated is guff too. The quality of the bottom half this season is so bad that it isn’t even about quality players or quality football, it’s pretty much down to which team is going to work the hardest to ensure they win. Currently we are the side with the least fight in them.

What the camera doesn’t show is that Alisher Usmanov is already in the back seat of the car as Moshiri gets in, with a revolver in one hand and a massive flesh coloured dildo in the other.
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Should have got Dyche many games ago. As soon as it appeared Lampard wasn't cut out for this rescue act. You can't mess around with relegation on the table.

They have a team to be solid, and grab some tight games if the manager comes in and galvanizes the side. To me that backline shouldn't be too bad no matter how it looks currently, you should be able to set them up with Onana in front not to be so leaky.
 

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I honestly feel bad for Everton fans at this point. Week after week of miserable performances and results, and nothing changing.

Do we know the reason Lampard hasn't been sacked? Is it lack of money to pay him out?
 

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I honestly feel bad for Everton fans at this point. Week after week of miserable performances and results, and nothing changing.

Do we know the reason Lampard hasn't been sacked? Is it lack of money to pay him out?
They haven't quite hit rock bottom yet.
They're already 2nd bottom of the league, but they're waiting for Arsenal to annihilate them and then to have an out of sorts Liverpool do the same.
That'll be it then.
 

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They haven't quite hit rock bottom yet.
They're already 2nd bottom of the league, but they're waiting for Arsenal to annihilate them and then to have an out of sorts Liverpool do the same.
That'll be it then.
With each passing game they give Lampard's successor less and less a chance of survival. Their board is easily the worst in the league, they're practically on a kamikaze mission.
 

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I honestly feel bad for Everton fans at this point. Week after week of miserable performances and results, and nothing changing.

Do we know the reason Lampard hasn't been sacked? Is it lack of money to pay him out?

I do aswell, and I'd be sad to see them go down, but the sqaud right now is shocking, and I'm not sure changing the manager is necessarily going to save them sadly.

The fact they're not really looking to change Lampard still, and we're getting late in the transfer window now, makes you think the people at the top there just aren't that bothered, or don't have the money to try and save them.
 

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I honestly feel bad for Everton fans at this point. Week after week of miserable performances and results, and nothing changing.

Do we know the reason Lampard hasn't been sacked? Is it lack of money to pay him out?
Moshiri clearly has money and getting relegated is going to cost him much more than sacking Lampard. I wouldn’t be surprised if Dixie is right in his thoughts of it being out of spite.
 

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Moshiri clearly has money and getting relegated is going to cost him much more than sacking Lampard. I wouldn’t be surprised if Dixie is right in his thoughts of it being out of spite.
At this point it does nearly feel personal. Or at least complete apathy. Either way it's disgusting from the board to not act.
 

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If Frank goes on holiday to Norway during the international break then lose the first game back then I think he might be sacked.
 

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The more I watch highlights and games this season the more I believe the posts about us having a poorer squad than everyone else so we will get relegated is guff too. The quality of the bottom half this season is so bad that it isn’t even about quality players or quality football, it’s pretty much down to which team is going to work the hardest to ensure they win. Currently we are the side with the least fight in them.
Spot on. The bottom of the league is shite. A good manager will get us out of this. But are the owners going to sack him? I've said it before, but I've never seen anything like this in my life. A manager not getting sacked to spite the fans? Wtf is going on! It's implosion!! We're going to need a new club to support next season.
 

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Should have got Dyche many games ago. As soon as it appeared Lampard wasn't cut out for this rescue act. You can't mess around with relegation on the table.
Dyche would have been perfect for them. I'm quite surprised he's still unemployed, I think he's a good manager but perhaps can't shake off the 'burnley' vibes which makes him unappealing to most owners.
 

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Why out of interest?
They've delighted on sticking it to us over the past decade.
I guess I’m tired of this being a London centric league. Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, Palace, Fulham, West Ham and Brentford right now - 35% of the league. Let’s say they go down and we have Watford up it’s even worse. I’d prefer more representation from other teams, preferably in the North.
 

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Dyche would have been perfect for them. I'm quite surprised he's still unemployed, I think he's a good manager but perhaps can't shake off the 'burnley' vibes which makes him unappealing to most owners.
Burnley vibes (apart from their final demise) are probably what they need for the next couple of seasons. They've got the ingredients for it. A British core at the back. Great home support that they can make a nasty place to visit IF they can change the mood. They're too easy to play against at the moment and that's never good if you're in a relegation battle.

Address the here and now and worry about fancy football later. I'd try and persuade Dyche to take an 18 month deal. He might go for it because he's been out of work.
 

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I don’t get this very British obsession with going down the road of old-fashioned physical football at the first sign of trouble. Everton have an imbalanced squad with plenty of weaknesses, but they have to stay the course here and find a manager who can get them safe without setting them back a couple of years.
 

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They should get Bielsa in now, give him a few quid to spend before the end of the month, and see how it goes, at least they'd go out with a bang if they did go down, and have a league proven manager to get them back up if the worst did happen.
 

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I wouldn't hire Dyche. This winning ugly and being physical doesn't work anymore and it isn't what you want for a long term plan.
 

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Never understood how Lampard got the Chelsea job and then went to Everton. The desire to have ex players manage is understandable as its worked for teams like Barca with numerous managers & also Real with Zidane. But not many English teams are set up like Barca, maybe City could do it, Arsenal appear to have got it right with Arteta but that was probably more about Arteta as an individual + his time with Pep.
 

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I dont get the ‘terrible squad’ perspective. They have a good GK, a solid if not spectacular back 4, DCL and Maupay have goals in them and they have decent wide players. Onana looks good on the occasions i watch them.
Theres more than enough there to stop up.

Are there any Everton fans who have a more in depth view?
 

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I don’t get this very British obsession with going down the road of old-fashioned physical football at the first sign of trouble. Everton have an imbalanced squad with plenty of weaknesses, but they have to stay the course here and find a manager who can get them safe without setting them back a couple of years.
I wouldn't hire Dyche. This winning ugly and being physical doesn't work anymore and it isn't what you want for a long term plan.
Agreed. He also isn’t the relegation specialist he is made out to be.
 

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Gerrard, Big Sam, Dyche and Duncan Ferguson I expect
Gerrard would also be a mistake. Better CV as manager than Lampard due to his time at Rangers. But didn’t set the world alight at AV.

They should go for Nuno. Didn’t work out at Spurs, but did well at Wolves for several seasons. Will make Everton solid and hard to play against. Can sign the players who will rise in value.
 
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Everton have some decent players that should be doing better. Not sure who can come in midseason though but I feel they need a more technical coach with a strong personality.

Favre is a good coach, had a great first stint at Nice and Dortmund, not a brilliant return to Nice and recently sacked with Nice in 10th spot but I wouldn't hold it against him. Perhaps he'd turn Everton down though.

They might have to go down and come back with a new identity, the fans there want some decent football. It's so quiet at their stadium these last few years. A new stadium coming and new style of manager is needed. It used to be a loud passionate fanbase.
 

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In hindsight we should have probably gone for Howe in the summer we signed Benitez.
 

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Gerrard, Big Sam, Dyche and Duncan Ferguson I expect
I don’t think I’d ever be able to stop laughing if Gerrard took over, it would certainly change the mood, but not in a good way.