Most of the recruitment should have been done a year or at least 6 months ago. But unfortunately, the timing of things -- ETH having only been there for less than 3 months and the sacking of the key recruitment executives, its the perfect storm.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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Sadly, I can see Di Maria vibes with this one…
On the other hand I still believe he’s coming!
On the other hand I still believe he’s coming!
If only thread pages = Signings. We would have all our dream players..
Sneijder, gaitan, ozman..
Sneijder, gaitan, ozman..
This is ridiculous. With no context, you're probably right, but most sane fans wouldn't gamble the future of the club on a handful of transfers and a shot at trophies over the next couple of years in the way that Barca have. Their house of cards is so precarious that any number of social or economic bumps could bring the whole thing down. They should be dealing with their financial mess and all the covid fallout rather than funding shell companies to buy their own TV rights in a (botched) attempt to artificially inflate their wage bill so that they can sign players that, apparently, the fanbase demands every year or else... like I said, ridiculous.
Honestly, at this point Di Maria vibes are a good thing, right? At least he signed
Don't you think De Jong would of told Ten Hag if he's got not intention of coming here? He doesn't need a last resort if he's staying at Barca irrespective of the deferred wages
Funnily enough I actually know one guy with enough to pull this deal off. He’d likely go in with another couple of high net worth guys and I jokingly brought it up with him the other day but he reckons the Glazers want 5bn for it and he doesn’t reckon it’s worth more than 3.5. He’s never actually a serious party for such an asset, but there are a lot of groups out there with the means to pull it off. It’s just all about pricing.@simonhch could we interest you to buy?
In all seriousness, there are enough consortiums and funds out there to pull this deal off easily if the Glazers are actually willing to sell. People mistakenly think it need to be one individual, but it probably won’t be. It’ll be a consortium, and right now the glazers are simultaneously pricing it out of the market and running it into the ground.
I worked closely with a guy a couple of years ago who was pretty close to a couple of the Glazers, and we talked United a fair bit. His impression was that they were waiting for a continental super league, the expansion of mobile content rights, especially in China and the rest of Asia, and tighter salary cap controls (that they hoped a super league would bring), to maximise value before a potential sale.
This is of course topic for another thread, but I'm sceptical if a consortium would lead us to a better place. End of the day, it's an investment for them as well, and they would want some form of profit from it. One could of course hope that they structure the club with better/more experienced/more gifted people in the field of running a football club
Easy now, a simple google search will turn up a slew of articles similar to this...
United offer to pay deferred wages.
Chelsea new owner came in and is going to spend more money than any club in the history of the sport. Surprisingly the government facilitated an excellent choice.
RA being kicked out of the country and the club is an entirely different buying environment than the Glazers selling up, though
Frenkie de Jong is committed to continuing at Barcelona until 2026 despite the club denouncing his current contract.• His agent has put the matter in the hands of lawyers, AFE, FIFPRO and La Liga.
• The player is disappointed. #FCB
• FdJ does not only wants to stay but believes that Barça are extorting the matter so that the players reduce their salaries.
de Jong's lawyers are analysing in detail the steps which the club has taken to put pressure on him from the beginning and informed this to AFE, FIFPRO and La Liga - who back in 2020 validated the contract.• de Jong believes that he is a victim of a campaign against his image from his own club, something inconceivable for him, but he does not want to give in. He was first placed on the market and now Barça are trying to lower his salary.
de Jong's entourage says that there is 0.0% chance that he considers to renegotiate his current contract which Barça consider completely out of the market.• His salary more than doubles in the coming seasons after lowering it in 2020-21. #FCB
Despite the contractual conflict with the club, de Jong's entourage says that he is mentally very strong and very positive for the coming season. He wants to help the team and win trophies. His relationship with Xavi is very good.
• Waiting to see how things unfold, de Jong is now solely focused on the game vs Rayo.
• His agents, for now, also prefer to remain silent, aware that any statement at this time, more than helping the player, could go against him. #FCB
Via (): @RogerTorello [md]
If all of this is true, his sole love and motivation for staying at Barca is for financial reasons. Which of course he's absolutely entitled to feel like
• His agent has put the matter in the hands of lawyers, AFE, FIFPRO and La Liga.
• The player is disappointed. #FCB
• FdJ does not only wants to stay but believes that Barça are extorting the matter so that the players reduce their salaries.
• de Jong believes that he is a victim of a campaign against his image from his own club, something inconceivable for him, but he does not want to give in. He was first placed on the market and now Barça are trying to lower his salary.
• His salary more than doubles in the coming seasons after lowering it in 2020-21. #FCB
Despite the contractual conflict with the club, de Jong's entourage says that he is mentally very strong and very positive for the coming season. He wants to help the team and win trophies. His relationship with Xavi is very good.
• Waiting to see how things unfold, de Jong is now solely focused on the game vs Rayo.
• His agents, for now, also prefer to remain silent, aware that any statement at this time, more than helping the player, could go against him. #FCB
Via (): @RogerTorello [md]
I cannot blame him. You don't bend over and let your employers feck you.
Barcelona are a disgusting club.
Barcelona are a disgusting club.
I do hope Barca get relegated, but I'm NOT bitter, as I hope for that every season!
#consistency
I hope we go all out for Savic/Neves/Diaz.
Let this guy rot playing CB for his bestie Xavi.
Plot twist (not really a plot twist since it’s obvious): He is not going to get a dime from Barcelona.
Let this guy rot playing CB for his bestie Xavi.
Plot twist (not really a plot twist since it’s obvious): He is not going to get a dime from Barcelona.
Ya, inconceivable that he'd want to stay there after being treated like that. But understandable to a degree to insist on staying until you get what you're owed
Fair play to him if this is the case.
He signed a contract and now Barca are trying to weasel out of it using their full repertoire of dirty tricks.
I hope he takes them to the cleaners.
Yeah absolutely. Can't wrap my head around any other motivation than money if he's tasking his lawyers with checking possible steps over Barcelona's conduct but at the same time being adamant of wanting to continue there.
Which is really fair enough, they owe him
Let’s see if they can register them first
secondly in order to make those signing they’ve had to activate loans and sell otf bits of their future income . They’ve put their future as a club at risk
Now that’s the type of update I’d be interested to read. From outside, you can see there’s a systemic approach being used by de Jong and his entourage to negotiate his pay. Note that this doesn’t mention any move away from the club but this is intentional in order to protect his position. Obviously the player is interested in moving to another club, but that’ll be sorted after getting what he’s due. This may not be the news we want to read but its more reasonable than some of the rubbish being spouted on twitter.
• His agent has put the matter in the hands of lawyers, AFE, FIFPRO and La Liga.
• The player is disappointed. #FCB
• FdJ does not only wants to stay but believes that Barça are extorting the matter so that the players reduce their salaries.
• de Jong believes that he is a victim of a campaign against his image from his own club, something inconceivable for him, but he does not want to give in. He was first placed on the market and now Barça are trying to lower his salary.
• His salary more than doubles in the coming seasons after lowering it in 2020-21. #FCB
Despite the contractual conflict with the club, de Jong's entourage says that he is mentally very strong and very positive for the coming season. He wants to help the team and win trophies. His relationship with Xavi is very good.
• Waiting to see how things unfold, de Jong is now solely focused on the game vs Rayo.
• His agents, for now, also prefer to remain silent, aware that any statement at this time, more than helping the player, could go against him. #FCB
Via (): @RogerTorello [md]
I get the principle behind not letting yourself get shafted but anyone who is willing to stay at that club is a mug and frankly I wouldn't want a personality like that. How anyone can have their name raked through the mud, told to reduce their salary, despite throwing £200million at other players amongst all the other crap and still want to stay is beyond me.
I hope this club goes bankrupt, is forced to sell all of their assets and start again ala Rangers in Scotland. They deserve nothing less.
I hope this club goes bankrupt, is forced to sell all of their assets and start again ala Rangers in Scotland. They deserve nothing less.
This exactly. People talking about how great Barca’s window has been ignore the reality that they’re doing it by risking the financial future of the club. Not to mention being non compliant with known La Liga rules to the point where they can’t even register their players. And that’s not even taking into account the dirty tactics they’ve used to try and force players to take pay cuts and dishonour existing contracts.
They’re playing real life Football manager with the sliders for club finances turned all the way up. Hope Laporta realises he can’t just reload the game if it goes sour.
You’re taking the “still want to stay” at face value and not as a negotiating plot. If he says “right I’ll go then” Barcelona get to know a few million off the inevitable settlement, which would be very dumb of him.
I would be doing absolutely the same as him in that situation.
Yes, I wish we were like Barcelona, selling off most of their rights or assets and whatever, being on the brink of financial turmoil and possible folding. Let’s forget about all that because they got plenty of shiny new toys.
Think I’d much rather stick with the United we got if that’s the alternative.
This is a done deal in 2023
I imagine he will, since they gave him a contract
You'd think so, but in this case you wouldn't bet on it
I'm not sure they can register all of them and their salaries unless they sell another asset or future earning (stop going along with the Barsa Pr machine's calling them "palancas" or levers).
Frenkie must really love that Mediterranean lifestyle.
my last time following a transfer thread so closely was for Arturo Vidal, where i think 'done dealio' was coined. I told myself never again .... but here I am ...
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Because by staying he’s fecking them up.
FDJ will have takers once the case is settled, Laporta won’t survive this if they end up not being able to register their new signings and get taken to the cleaners by FDJ in court.
Your understanding of contracts is as good as Laporta
I'd love it if deJong stayed in Barcelona and right after the registrering window closed posted a Floyd Mayweather style social media bit of news. I'm talking private plane in a bathtub filled with 100 euro notes, kind of post.
Probably.Your understanding of contracts is as good as Laporta
But in this corrupt world, I’m absolutely sure that they’ll find a loophole and not pay him.
Best case scenario for feckme Dejong is to grab the Chelsea offer since they’re willing to pay him the owed wages from Barka.
Don’t want him here after all the drama. He is not the last good midfielder in the world.
You'd think so, but in this case you wouldn't bet on it
fair. I think this is going to get really messy. He appears to be flat out refusing to leave and/or reduce his wages. This could end with him being taken to court and potentially leaving on a free I thinkI can kind of understand his position. The fans like him, Xavi likes him, he likes playing for Barca and him and his fiance like the lifestyle there. Hes also getting paid silly money for all of the aforementioned things.
The only gripe he has is that the president is trying to sell him and get him to take a pay cut... which he doesn't have to do. Your boss can be as much of a cnut as he liked but unless he actually has the power to make your life miserable then who cares if he wants you gone. He contractually owes you a lot of money and would be mad to try and punish you for not leaving or taking a pay cut as that would be a very expensive petulant response.
I fear this ones dead in the water and we should get clarification from all sides and move on if it doesn't look good.
Frenkie will still be there next year and if we get some good players in this summer we should be able to offer CL football next year.
That being said, who knows what is actually happening. Perhaps behind the scenes we are still getting positive signals from Frenkie and Barca and they are still just wrangling over money. First game of the season for Barca should be interesting. Not long to wait.
The only gripe he has is that the president is trying to sell him and get him to take a pay cut... which he doesn't have to do. Your boss can be as much of a cnut as he liked but unless he actually has the power to make your life miserable then who cares if he wants you gone. He contractually owes you a lot of money and would be mad to try and punish you for not leaving or taking a pay cut as that would be a very expensive petulant response.
I fear this ones dead in the water and we should get clarification from all sides and move on if it doesn't look good.
Frenkie will still be there next year and if we get some good players in this summer we should be able to offer CL football next year.
That being said, who knows what is actually happening. Perhaps behind the scenes we are still getting positive signals from Frenkie and Barca and they are still just wrangling over money. First game of the season for Barca should be interesting. Not long to wait.
Bizarre take that. He's being fecked over by his current club, he's said NOTHING disrespectful about United, in fact, he's said nothing at all. But you don't want him here because of what Barca are doing? Let him get that sorted and then he can come when Erik's got us back in the CL next season.
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