Like he needs a glass of milk. Weak.
Frenkie de Jong - Part 2 - Chase Harder.
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He isn't "supposed to be a technically good midfielder with passing skills". That is exactly what he is. @Raees made an analysis of him some time ago and he is perfectly capable of impacting the game, for instance with a defence splitting pass. You're not going to see that when he is the deepest lying midfielder with Xavi's style who is about short passing. He's improved defensively and excellent at reading the game (Man of the Match last game against Villarreal with 6 interceptions, twice as many as the next on the list). This game was far from his best, and that's fine. Gavi didn't really have a great game either, but he's still a fantastic player.
We’ll look at him in the summer… If he’s lucky 
Got schooled by our championship standard waste of money competition winner
I guess. It's just one game. But it's a concerning one to me because he will face that energy and intensity every week if he comes here, there are no comfortable games where we dominate the ball the whole game. I was hoping to see him shine against us (without necessarily impacting the game in their favour!)
Well said. He has formed a good partnership with Busquets giving him the freedom to roam around and get involved as more box to box, the lone #6 is not his role. With no Pedri in the second half he was left isolated against the press
I haven’t watched him loads but when I have he’s never stood out as anything special.
He would get absolutely destroyed in the Premier League. Avoid.
Looks like a system player who is reliant on ideal circumstances to thrive.
No a great game, but he's brilliant and would be fine in the PL. Fred did an amazing job shutting him down today though.
I think he'd show his worth much more for a team that builds around him.
Well, he shone for Ajax under Ten Hag, and guess who our coach is now..?
Dont be silly.
Ach now dont be blinding them with facts.
Due to the interest last summer, I've watched him about 6-7 times this season and every match he has been underwhelming.
You can see why Barcelona were open to his departure.
Do think he's a good player but if we signed him instead of Casemiro, think we'd be a much worse team.
He'd pair brilliantly with Casemiro but put him next to someone like Fred, McT or even Eriksen and the midfield will collapse like a house of cards.
because Ten Hag cant coach or set up a team right?
Despite having a poor game, I would still like him at United.
As others have mentioned, he's much better when he has the freedom to roam. One of his best attributes is the ability to receive the ball from deep and progress up the pitch with his dribbling abilities.
When he plays in the 6 role, he can't do that too often, either because he'll have no cover if he loses it, and really when you look at it, a number 6 should really be having too many touches of the ball in a single moment.
To me, if we were to bring De Jong to United and put him in the 'Eriksen' role, then he'd shine, in my opinion.
As others have mentioned, he's much better when he has the freedom to roam. One of his best attributes is the ability to receive the ball from deep and progress up the pitch with his dribbling abilities.
When he plays in the 6 role, he can't do that too often, either because he'll have no cover if he loses it, and really when you look at it, a number 6 should really be having too many touches of the ball in a single moment.
To me, if we were to bring De Jong to United and put him in the 'Eriksen' role, then he'd shine, in my opinion.
If it’s a choice between him and bellingham for the second spot I’d pick Jude all the way. If he would play the deepest and spread play from the back and let Casemiro go b2b then it might be a closer thing. He would be a good signing but under the glazers next summer probably our only major money acquisition.
You can clearly see De Jong has bags of potential as demonstrated by some lovely long accurate passes and a natural sense of spatial awareness. I think we’ll need to work extremely hard to get him in the summer, but he’d be one hell of a player for us, especially working under Ten Hag again.
No doubt. Casemiro was a blessing. Right player at the right time. Too bad we didn't get him on the younger side.
Don't worry though, with FDJ wages, if Barca don't win the quadruple this year, they'll be chucking him out if he doesn't agree to play for peanuts.
Fred's bitch.
Am I the only one who thought he struggled against the press? I don’t know how he’d cope if he faced that week in, week out.
It’s yet another disappointing European night for him. Fred ran all over him
It’s yet another disappointing European night for him. Fred ran all over him
I tend to be sceptical of players who need very specific conditions to play well.
Last year we heard he was being played too far forward to work for Barca, now it seems like I'm hearing the opposite and he's being played too deep. I admit I haven't watched him play too much, but whenever I have recently, I've paid attention to him due to the speculation last summer and he hasn't struck me as a particularly dominant player at all
Last year we heard he was being played too far forward to work for Barca, now it seems like I'm hearing the opposite and he's being played too deep. I admit I haven't watched him play too much, but whenever I have recently, I've paid attention to him due to the speculation last summer and he hasn't struck me as a particularly dominant player at all
He's a great player and I'd still take him here, had an off night though. Probably wasn't helped with the loss of Busquets, it meant his role was a bit different to how it had been so far this season.
I think it did highlight that he's not going to be a replacement for Busq, and never will be. They'll have to look elsewhere for that.
I think it did highlight that he's not going to be a replacement for Busq, and never will be. They'll have to look elsewhere for that.
Another midfielder who needs the team set up around him, this is why he has often struggled at Barca. The funny thing is he’d actually get that here under Ten Hag but I’d rather we went in a different direction.
Yeah he reminded me a bit of Pogba when i saw him at the world cup: moments of sheer class mixed with some very unimpressive ones too. Not sure i want to go through all that again
As for Barca, maybe he just doesn't suit the league or the club? It's pretty clear who most people view as the real stars of that Barca midfield. I think EtH has gone on record saying de Jong is 'an adventurer' and likes to have a free role in the midfield where he can just pick up the ball wherever and influence the game. Just don't think he'll ever get that playing alongside the other players there
Read someone say on here that we will have 20% possession and FDJ will run the midfield…
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Depends on the available funds in the summer.
We're too good for him.
Might be ok if he had say, Casemiro behind him.
So did dvb, how's that worked out?
He can't cope with the high intensity in English football.
Ismail Bennancer will be a cheaper and better alternative.
Ismail Bennancer will be a cheaper and better alternative.
DvB was great for Ajax? That's a bit of a stretch, no?
He was okay and had some good performances in Champions League, as every player in the world can have. Frenkie de Jong was the most sought after young player in the world along with Matthijs de Ligt and has been really good for Barcelona, especially when played in his position without trying to make him play in a position he's not good at. Also been really great for Netherlands. De Jong's abilities are also very easy to see, and the same cannot be said for DvB. Not a good comparison at all.I actually think Donny will be given another opportunity to prove himself, there’s no doubt that Ten Hags methods of coaching can improve players, like Wan Bisaka for example. DVB is still young so maybe he might respond positively and improve on the poor performances that were all to familiar last season.
No it doesnt. If he can make fecking Fred work he can make FDJ work
Poor performance from him tonight. For the price, there could be better alternatives.
Well, lord Fred almost made KdB (arguably a better player than FdJ) non-existent.
Apparently Ten Hag gave Weghorst 1 job tonight. Disrupt Frenkie
Wout being shite aside, he did that quite well.
Wout being shite aside, he did that quite well.
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