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Do we still want this bellend?
Most overrated player since Nigel Reo Cocker
Do we still want this bellend?
Most overrated player since Nigel Reo Cocker
Do we still want this bellend?
Most overrated player since Nigel Reo Cocker
He's a good individual player. In the sense that, he can keep the ball himself, he can drive the ball, but I'm not sure how influencial he can be for a full team. He would be a great player to have for any squad. However, for the quoted price, he would need to be a star man. Much like Pogba, I don't think his general influence would be worth the fee. He would make far more sense in a team that is already established like City or Real Madrid, where they have other features helping to control the game.We’ve just watched 120 mins of what a midfield with FdJ looks like. Just endless recycling of the ball in the middle of the pitch. Even his pass map which others were making a mess of their pants about demonstrates what he does, short or sideways, usually both. Great, he doesn’t give the ball away, he doesn’t give it away because he takes the easy short pass over and over.
I’m not saying he’s rubbish he’s obviously a decent player, but I don’t want him here, he doesn’t want to be here and he doesn’t really suit what we want. With a bit of patience and some scouts worth their pay, we can undoubtedly do better for that kind of money.
The biggest indication that he was done with football for me was his refusal to leave Barca. No self respecting footballer in his prime chooses to fight for his place when another top team coached by a manager that you trust and respect is willing to give u a way out. The " his girl loves living in Spain" is BS to me.I gotta say the more I watch Frenkie, the less I’m impressed with him. I know what he’s done in the past and I’d break the bank for that player, but he’s really crawled into shell the last year and a half or so. The ability is there, but he almost looks like a footballer who’s done with football.
Me too. Especially the passing. I don't see him running the game, the same way as Enzo does.I gotta say the more I watch Frenkie, the less I’m impressed with him. I know what he’s done in the past and I’d break the bank for that player, but he’s really crawled into shell the last year and a half or so. The ability is there, but he almost looks like a footballer who’s done with football.
Class players shows up for anytime he plays. Just look at the Modric, that is MF maestro.I don't think we can judge any dutch player based on the international team.
They're told to play in first gear by LVG.
feck me, how has anyone watched us and come to the conclusion that we wouldn’t be absolutely miles better if we had a midfielder as press resistant as FrenkieWe’ve just watched 120 mins of what a midfield with FdJ looks like. Just endless recycling of the ball in the middle of the pitch. Even his pass map which others were making a mess of their pants about demonstrates what he does, short or sideways, usually both. Great, he doesn’t give the ball away, he doesn’t give it away because he takes the easy short pass over and over.
I’m not saying he’s rubbish he’s obviously a decent player, but I don’t want him here, he doesn’t want to be here and he doesn’t really suit what we want. With a bit of patience and some scouts worth their pay, we can undoubtedly do better for that kind of money.
Have you seen his performances in the CL v big teams? We don’t need what ifs, we’ve seen seen Barca being pressed off the pitch with De Jong in the side many timesfeck me, how has anyone watched us and come to the conclusion that we wouldn’t be absolutely miles better if we had a midfielder as press resistant as Frenkie
Have people already forgotten half of our games this season with so many of our non press resistant players?
That pass map shows he’d constantly progress the ball to Bruno, Anthony and the left wing, that he’d be twice as involved in doing so as any of our current midfielders and a lot more accurate at it too.
Holland’s problem isn’t their defence or midfield, their attackers are absolute pants. One of their wing backs is a centre half for heaven’s sake.
Oppositions simply couldn’t do a “Brentford” on us with someone like Frenkie in that midfield. We’d be a shit load better vs. City’s press also.
He’s not coming mind, that ship has long sailed but he’d be an incredible addition, ETH isn’t some absolute dummy who wants him so badly despite him being “meh”.
Is there a single magical midfielder in the World that would’ve stopped that?Have you seen his performances in the CL v big teams? We don’t need what ifs, we’ve seen seen Barca being pressed off the pitch with De Jong in the side many times
I'll again say when it's time for him to step up and really leave a mark on the game and exasperate the opposition, he doesn't want that responsibility anymore and far too often goes down with the ship or fades into the background as a tidy, decorative piece who may have good stats, but barely any impact on the game and certainly not the influence he has shown he was capable of.Have you seen his performances in the CL v big teams? We don’t need what ifs, we’ve seen seen Barca being pressed off the pitch with De Jong in the side many times
Yup100% bullet dodged in my book especially on the quoted prices and salary. Added into the fact that he prefers to sit on Barca bench and his wife loves living in Spain. Leave him alone and forget about him.
We can definitely do better and it will not be difficult for our scout to find someone else with the budget we are willing to spend 80mil and 400-500k p/w salary.
My dream signing back in 2008Do we still want this bellend?
Most overrated player since Nigel Reo Cocker
I think this is it. He doesn't seem to be particularly interested in football and his performances reflect that. Goes in, does the minimum required of him, doesn't leave any impression on the game, and leaves. He seems to be perfectly fine sitting on the bench in Barcelona and cashing in his checks. I say let him. That's a massive bullet dodged in my books. People on this forum love hyping him up, though. VdB also looked a different player in that Ajax team.I gotta say the more I watch Frenkie, the less I’m impressed with him. I know what he’s done in the past and I’d break the bank for that player, but he’s really crawled into shell the last year and a half or so. The ability is there, but he almost looks like a footballer who’s done with football.
Crazy to think about when put this way.100% bullet dodged in my book especially on the quoted prices and salary. Added into the fact that he prefers to sit on Barca bench and his wife loves living in Spain. Leave him alone and forget about him.
We can definitely do better and it will not be difficult for our scout to find someone else with the budget we are willing to spend 80mil and 400-500k p/w salary.
Is there a single midfielder that could stand up to City?Is there a single magical midfielder in the World that would’ve stopped that?
We’re building on more and more players that are better at it, Martinez & Antony are incredible good, De Jong would be a massive upgrade in another area of the pitch in that respect, clearly. It’s our weakest area by far, none of Fred, McTom, Eriksen or less importantly so Cas are very press resistant, it makes it much easier to put a squeeze on us.
Funnily enough Ziyech is one of Moroccos best players this tournament and they're doing very well for themselves so hold your horsesHe is just not that good. That Ajax SF team needs to be rejudged. Whatever quality they had really hasn't translated elsewhere.
No, you need a team capable of it. Barca have been particularly weak at it in their back five with Pique and Busquests playing in many of their CL failures, age catches up to all.Is there a single midfielder that could stand up to City?
The guy got Stockholm syndrome at Barca. There’s no chance.Worth a punt again with Barca in tatters?
going to united would be a huge downgrade for himWorth a punt again with Barca in tatters?
They way ten hag begs on this guy like he's a mix of prime Zidane and Vieira is absurd and foolish. Its the equivalent Pep begging for City to get him Messi. He's a great player but do any of you think he's gonna make our forwards score more ? Its the Onana argument all over again. If his system really dependent on this guy then its a shit ass system. Also considering his transfer track record if ten hag asks me to buy an orange in one store I would check the whole city before decidingWorth a punt again with Barca in tatters?