We'll have Murtough's head if that is true
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Yes they do. They’ll be looking to set a world record for a sport “franchise”. They, like the other American owners, are looking to the American model to maximise returns. One where salary caps mean that profit margins are higher. The history of football’s financial evolution has meant that as club revenues have exploded, so have player wages. They are all looking to put a hard cap on that so that as revenues increase more, the owners can take home more money. The better the EBIDTA, the higher the sale value of the club and the higher the earnings potential in the future. I see a salary cap and or an ESL as being the triggers for a sale. If those aren’t achieved within a medium time frame there is the possibility they sell out anyway, but I don’t see the possibility of that happening in the short term unless someone comes in to buy it that is looking at it as part of a wider commercial policy or a sports washing scheme. Right now, as a return on investment, the club is too highly priced, and performing too poorly for someone to see it as a good investment.
We wouldn't but I don't think that's the issue, the players will will decide the deal and all signs point towards him being unwilling to leave for us.
If he does leave he has a better run club with CL footy to offer apparently willing to offer him a cushy exit route
I can't wait for average
McFred are no where near that level.Yeah I can agree with all that, just won't believe for a second that United's reluctance to pay the 17m while Chelsea are willing to pay makes any difference
He's now being insulted by the fans as he drives quietly to work but hey.. He'll take anything to get his money. Meanwhile, it appears his agent has now involved the lawyers and it's about to become the court case of the year.
He's yours then whilst we look on in envy
Simply think he's more interested in going to Chelsea than us, not much more to it really.
Sick of this club being owned in the transfer window due to those scumbags who just won't feck off
Quite sure that we would agree to that if it came down to it, got too much riding on this and put too much energy into it for that to be deal-breaker. Just unfortunate that we've had one of our rivals suddenly register their interest because objectively, if its a straight decision between us and them currently, we'll lose each time
I'd like to think that he just said it again on air. Sky wouldn't repost old clips...would they
The transfer would be done and dusted if that was the case surely
Its funny to me that "progressive carries" is a sophisticated term for the famous redcafe saying "attack the space".
Literally signed Ronaldo, Sancho and Varane last year. This window is a mess because of Murtough with his lack of planning.
This fecking rollercoaster!
One second its ON the next second its OFF!
My blood pressure...
But you agree that at no point United attracted players just based on our allure otherwise the likes of young Ramsey, young Bale, Shearer and a multitude of other players would have picked us. At all points United needed to offer the right combination of playing time, silverware prospect and money.
Sometimes it feels that many United fans embellish the past. We had SAF and he made a massive difference for our on-field performances but the rest was sometimes a struggle, that includes getting the players we wanted.
I just don't see the point in melting down over could be situations. The journos can't even get their stories straight and those that are well connected to the club are silent. United are silent yet all these other guys are saying "United are all but out, the deal hangs by a thread, United privately feel its not going to happen".
Simple fact is they don't know. They're looking at other deals we're doing or considering and putting 2+2 together and getting 5. It confuses me how those that are well connected seem to have no info, yet those who aren't have all this massive inside info as to what's being done and said on private.
This just means its even easier for Chelsea thoughThis fecking rollercoaster!
One second its ON the next second its OFF!
My blood pressure...
Wow you really are so defeatist...
Why? It’s a horrible deal. It’s a deal made by a new owner who hasn’t a clue what he’s doing.
Mate you sound pathetic. Just log off for a bit.
It's either De Jong or Murtough preserving his strong man reputation in Europe. We know what the club will do...
I admire people who genuinely think we'll get him, but it does come across a bit like positivity for positivity sake. It's not often I feel like a defeated muppet, but I do. Just being realistic.
I hope he doesn't treat life like this too... oh so close but nah I give up
I'm beginning to get the impression that (contrary to popular belief on this forum) FdJ hasn't got an EtH shrine in his home/wallpaper on his desktop. We were sort of banking on him blindly worshipping our Walter White cosplay enthusiast really.
Yeah I can't see any way he doesn't join Chelsea now, tried to keep the faith but finally been worn down by this saga and horrific ownership
Frankly, de Jong soap opera
Not according to Ben Jacobs, who reported that Chelsea's overall package, including the payment of deferred wages, is similar to United's. The only real difference is that Chelsea's looking to pay ~€5m less than United are in their full offer to Barcelona.
Unbelievable how much some people base their life on this kind of stuff.
If we get him great if not we move on.
Chelsea are cnuts. De Jongs loss.
More so I don't think we thought we had much competition, I doubt we saw Chelsea throwing around quite simply stupid money like they have. Think that's what undone us.
Until the fat lady signs ( or the floppy haired Dutch player opens his mouth ) it's not over.
I am defeatist because seen us miss out so many times due to these yank scumbagsYou tell him mate!
The fat lady has not song yet mate!
No one will think this. No one.
The actual number of posts I see on here where it sounds like they're posting from the edge of a ledge is scary.
And also something we couldn't have prevented
Who made it clear? On our end Romero, Jacobs and many others are basically quoting the owner who had flown to Barcelona for sit downs on several occasions.
The idea that “we wouldn’t be in this for so long if we didn’t have something” came just from assumptions about Ten Hag, right?
And now you are sending out feelers and possible bids the same way we did when we saw the writing on the wall with Kounde.
I see United fans railing at the press for “shifting blame for this to Ten Hag” … but if you don’t sign De Jong, people inside the building at United will absolutely be doing the same thing.
But why? The journos have no more of a clue about what's happening than we do. That's easily seen by the fact they're repeating stuff over and over, day after day. It's guess work and speculation.
Chelsea are interested yes but I believe a lot of this is Barca taking the piss. That's just my opinion though. Just chill out and see all of this for what it is... speculation
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