true. Carrick was a weird one though. There aren't many players blessed with his passing range who also had his size and his positioning sense. That allowed him to be an effective DM something better players like Scholes and Pirlo couldn't do.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Ridiculous opinion more like.
His peak at top club football lasted two and a half years, third year at Chelsea the injuries started to kick in, then the rest of his career from there was pretty meh and absolutely injury ravaged where he managed to play 15 league games or more in just two seasons.
A huge shame after the great promise he showed in those first two Chelsea seasons in a team brimming with confidence.
The story of his career was great promise at Lyon, a brilliant 2.5 years at Chelsea, and then injury after injury after injury.
He won a grand total of 2 Premier Leagues, the second he managed just 14 fecking appearances so we’re being generous there, in reality he was an important player in just 1 single top league title during his entire career.
Carrick was an important player for 5 league titles and one CL win.
Essien’s only CL final appearance was against Carrick, but not really, as by that point he was at fecking right back on occasion, that night spent getting bullied by Ronaldo, so far had his career already fell. The next final he was involved in a squad he didn’t even come off the bench, despite the game going to 120 minutes.
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I'm always amused at how Barca seem to have a new president every 25 minutes! Candidates make stupider promises than Boris Johnson
Born in the wrong generation unfortunately for him. He'd likely be one right now
True. But he was one of the most underrated players of his generation.
So is he on the big money now as I thought his new deal kicked in at the start of the month or is he still on the reduced amount?
Possible Barca transfers:
Kessie
Christensen
Pablo Torre
Dembele
Raphinha
Lewandowski
Kounde
Bernardo Silva
Barca director: "To comply with La Liga, players have to be sold"
Laporta: "We ain't selling anyone"
selling off the club revenue making assets for short term sugar hits. Also, as their director mentions in the Romano tweet, they have to force out the players they know have long term salaries due after they took wage reductions. Long term, I doubt Barca exist in the structure they do now, either the government will eventually come in and the club will be gutted or it will be completely sold for peanuts to an authoritarian/hedge fund and the badge will be the only representation left.
Kessie
Christensen
Pablo Torre
Dembele
Raphinha
Lewandowski
Kounde
Bernardo Silva
Barca director: "To comply with La Liga, players have to be sold"
Laporta: "We ain't selling anyone"
selling off the club revenue making assets for short term sugar hits. Also, as their director mentions in the Romano tweet, they have to force out the players they know have long term salaries due after they took wage reductions. Long term, I doubt Barca exist in the structure they do now, either the government will eventually come in and the club will be gutted or it will be completely sold for peanuts to an authoritarian/hedge fund and the badge will be the only representation left.
Yes. Are you fecking kidding me??
I think the real question is do they even have the money to pay him and continue to register the players they have targeted. If they want him gone then they had to know they had to pay him unless they were somehow hoping he would write off the 17mil they are due him because Mes Un Cnuts.
Who even really knows if that is the hold up, maybe they are willing to pay that but simply Frenkie doesn’t want to go but they need the transfer money to reinvest it in the squad and had decided that he was the most valuable asset that was expendable.
If this shithouse of a club had to tell Messi to leave,they'll have no issue doing the same with FDJ.
FDJ joins Man United, there's no doubt about that but the circus that is Barcelona will keep playing this game.
FDJ joins Man United, there's no doubt about that but the circus that is Barcelona will keep playing this game.
Yeah......can we not get into a debate about "great MUFC players" in the FDJ thread please. 
Barca are like the mate you lent £100 to for his gas and electric, who still hasn’t paid you back, but rocks up in a new Golf wearing new Armani gear and flights to Ibiza that you’re not invited on.
I get what you're saying, but I think bad-mouthing your client is as fecking unprofessional as it gets.
He’s due me £17 in deferred wages, because he spent it all on food. So he’s not due any sympathy
I know we’re trying to get to 1000 pages like, but let’s keep it at least somewhat on topic?
The situation is slightly different here. They didn't owe Messi a payout & he was out of contract. Here, they are trying to push a contracted player who they owe money out of the club. The player obviously feels disappointed that he helped out the club at the time of financial trouble but the club now refuses to pay him what's due.
Christensen, Kessié, Raphinia, Lewandowski, Silva and Koundé
Are they playing FM on steroids?
I thought they need to reduce their wage bill significantly. This looks quite the opposite to me whether FdJ stays or leaves doesn't change that much.
Massive increase of their wage bill is coming.
STAY ON TOPIC PLEASE.
Please tell me how do you know if he is speaking to him regularly or are you hacking his voicemail?
"But we know La Liga's Fair Play tells us to sell players "
It doesn't.
It doesn't.
It’s what’s been reported. Up to you what you pick and choose to believe. The muppets certainly do.
At least our most loved player in United's history hasn't bankrupted our club.
You should. You are having a bloody mare.
Ok agree to disagree it’s about opinions I suppose
You can keep just posting that with nothing to back it up if you want. Make a thread. Take it elsewhere. Whatever.
Yes plus it looks like Xavi actually will be using Busquets, Kessie, Pedri, Gabi, Gonzalez, Pjanic he’s not going to play they have 6 players for 3 spaces already and he’s probably on as much if they give him his contracted wage as all the midfield players combined apart from Busquets. They need him off the wage bill
Because he wasn’t great when I watched him week in week out. He played in a great side. But can we just leave it there.While you aren’t replying go back and watch some clips of Carrick to remind yourself how great he actually was. Sounds like you need to
For fecks sake why is that list of midfielders getting posted over and over again. I don't come in here to see a shite conversation about Carrick. Let it go.
What time are they flying today? Any tweets about whos going?
Every player still seems to want to be at Barcelona
But it seems a weird career move if they’re so poorly run and can’t register you
Wont they need to sell more than just FDJ to register these players?
But it seems a weird career move if they’re so poorly run and can’t register you
Wont they need to sell more than just FDJ to register these players?
i think i remember a tweet from yesterday that said the travelling squad was going to be announced 1pm UK time.
Carrick wasn't flashy but he was our metronome, he initiated our attacks. He made very few errors, the team was built around him in a way.
People who under rate him don't understand his role in our system at the time.
Now, surely all these Barca transfer announcements must mean something is happening with De Jong.
This is what I don’t understand. Surely seeing the treatment of current players with deferred wages and selling their future revenue It’s clear Barcelona are going to have cash flow issue far worse then they’re having now.
All the deferred salaries are going to damage the club and if I was a player/agent I wouldn’t risk not getting paid.
wish we could poll this, but FDJ in the tour team or not? What you folks reckon will happen today with their announcement? And if he's not, how fast do we think this moves?
Personally, I think he's going on the tour, and i'm slowly accepting this is going very close to deadline day.
Personally, I think he's going on the tour, and i'm slowly accepting this is going very close to deadline day.
I hear Umtiti failed a medical and now won't leave Barca... does that make FdJ more likely to stay or go?
Guess Barcelona still have the appeal.
Same like girls who like bad boys who are handsome but with no money ?
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Can someone in the know answer cause I'm confused. If barca stump up and pay him 17m in wages, doesn't that count towards wages paid to a player for the financial year and will hinder them with fair play rules anyway?
He hasn't had a medical.
The financials will definitely not have it listed as wages. It’ll be listed as a one off expense.
Ah right
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