Looking at that goal again... Ball shot with loads of power, dipped right in front of de gea and swerved a bit, not sure you can blame De Gea too much. Should do a bit better of course, and normally you would expect him to, but Spain literally didn't move from the shot until the goal. Pique the only one, the rest just ball watched.
Game 44: Italy vs Spain
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11 hungry men >>> 11 tired men
Fashion wise too
Spain could still win this, will be interesting to see what they change in their approach at half time because what they are did in the first half played into Italy's tactics
He's been pretty much on par or better than Neuer. People are just stuck in the reality distortion field from 2 years ago when people that Neuer was invincible.
The biggest problem with Spain's style is it's not designed for them to play it without the game either being in their favour or drawing. They can't work a team apart if they've no reason to come out, and then they can just sit deep and spring on the counter as the Spanish are forced to make riskier and riskier plays.
This could easily turn into a multiple goal defeat if Spain don't score early in the 2nd half.
This could easily turn into a multiple goal defeat if Spain don't score early in the 2nd half.
Wow what's wrong with some people here. No one said de Gea is not a world class goalkeeper, he's obviously great. Doesn't mean he can't make mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes, it's really no big deal. And of course it was a mistake (and of course the goal was down to that mistake AND the defense), that's not really a matter of opinion..
Tournament football, its hard to judge (we saw that with LVG) but Conte looks tactically fantastic. And his football is fun to watch. Chelsea getting a decent young manager (well for at least two seasons before hes gone) :P
He's a great manager I just hope he'll do a van Gaal. He did great with Holland in the 2014 WC and got us United fans hyped then disappointed us when he arrived at United.
Calm down, ladies.
Del Bosque seems to struggle against teams playing with 3 at the back.
kouroux delivers cold hard facts
Neuer vs DDG manages to be more tedious and annoying than Messi vs Ronaldo
I'm one of those who was not impressed with the way Holland played in the 2014 WC. No real team cohesion. It was "give it to Robben" ball.
Atletico Madrid averaged 5-6 Spanish players a game this season. Their players would be perfect for this kind of game. Instead Del Bosque has used only 1 of their players.
Tempted to back Spain to qualify
Actually LVG's team in Brazil looked dull as feck, apart from that freak game vs Spain. I was worried he'd make us play the same way and he did.
forget Pep. Mourinho will have to get the better of Conte.
We groaned when van Gaal played 3 at the back. Conte does not simply flood the midfield, he dominates the other side with the aim of getting at their defence ASAP.
They have 3 or 4 players in the box.
Spain have quality and they will need to use every ounce of it if they are going to beat Italy.
We groaned when van Gaal played 3 at the back. Conte does not simply flood the midfield, he dominates the other side with the aim of getting at their defence ASAP.
They have 3 or 4 players in the box.
Spain have quality and they will need to use every ounce of it if they are going to beat Italy.
What does Cesc do? fecks me off how badly he's destroyed the midfield when he's played for Barcelona and Spain, an absolute charlatan.
Apparently it's either if you are one of the best keepers in the world you are immune to mistakes or if you make a mistake you are not one of the best in the world. No middle ground.
He's the best shot stopper in the world, Neuer arguably the better all round keeper because his sweeping is usually brilliant enough to stamp chances out before they even occur. Either way, the two are very close.
Fabregas represents the state of Spain's side at the minute. Creative, technical, knows everything but his legs and guts have gone.
I voted for France to win but then after watching how Italy played against Scotland in a friendly a few weeks back I saw what they were doing but wasnt able to change my vote. They might still get beaten here but I do think they would be the dark horses to win this based on what Conte has been doing with his "relatively" limited squad.
Because going on full jizz mode every time he makes a save, and implying only his highness Sir Dave and nobody else in the world could have saved it just asks for that this kind of snide remark.
It usually comes with the belittling of other keepers, too. Your fellow supporter claiming Neuer is an overrated heap of trash is only the highlight.
Scousers are still adamant that David James will surpass Schmeichel tbf
They could still win this. Depends if they do the right adjustments at half time.
Think its easy to say he should have done better after the fact but in reality that was a toughfree kick to save in such wet conditions
He's Conte's problem after this tournament.
Cesc lost his technique years ago. Pathetic touch these days and no agility.
Italy have been fantastic.
Absolutely the same with Silva.
The top four in the premiership is going to be amazing.
Well thank feck we have arguably the best manager in the world and not del Bosque.Italy look fecking amazing considering their talent level, im starting to get worried about Conte at Chelsea now.
Agree to disagree then. Not a "Taibi".. But he should have saved it. He made a mistake and Italy scored.
Because people refuse to admit that he made a mistake for the goal. That he has saved them from being down by 2 or 3 doesn't change that.
Italy would have already won this match if not for De Gea. splendid couple of saves.
Well he has only selected 2 and isn't even playing the better one.
If you take away the form of their outfield players, they have been on par. De Gea has made 3 world class saves in the past 45 minutes alone, which even if you thought the goal was a mistake on his part, completely outweigh the goal. Without those saves they would easily be down 4-0 at HT'De Goat' fecking hell
He's been sublime this tournament. And no mistakes so far unlike DDG who has had arguably two mistakes that led to goals (not sure I agree with the one against Croatia but many people do).
Keown is an asshole. Someone needs to punch him repeatedly
How Niguez and Koke doesn't get a look in is strange.
Well done Del Bosque. You dinosaur mustache'd fat prick. I'm done with this shit. I bet he doesn't even change anything at half time, just watch.