So basically names that have already been mentioned in this thread already then.
Yeah compared to the likes of Hazard, Dembele and Isco to name a couple he has been a right failure hasn’t he in Spain?
I mean I literally gave the names right on the tip of my tongue. I'm sure there are others if I think about (already coming to mind)
Compared to likes of Ronaldo, Benzema, Griezmann, yeah he has been.
Considering he is British and British players are well known not to fair well in foreign leagues he has more then succeeded expectations MASSIVELY.
I watched Madrid fairly often when Bale was at his best there and his all round play wasn’t something you’d call world class, he did play well sometimes and hardly a terrible player overall but nothing close to his Tottenham form.
Um, no. I can assure you I was watching a lot of football in the 90s and am fully aware of how good Giggs was. Bale, on his day, simply had more to his game. Better long passer, better finisher, better set piece delivery, quicker and more athletic. Giggs had close control over him and was a better (though given bale's pace i would argue no more effective) dribbler but Bale was more decisive in key moments.
The thing is he wasn’t the main man at Madrid like he was at Tottenham so he was never going to be in the spotlight as much
Funny this whole thread is basically alive because the Madrid fans and media don’t think he’s been a success.
You need to put things into perspective
You really think Madrid fans and the media hold any credibility?
Apples and oranges, to be honest. Also, there's a reason that attacking players of bale's calibre cost more than defensive players of rio's...it's because they're more important, decisive and rarer. That's not to say that Rio was a 'worse' player than bale but just that bale's attributes were rarer and more valuable.
I think the issue of consistency is a fair one to raise (though I'd argue that Bale, more than most, has had seasons and rhythm interrupted by injury) but looking at top level he's been one of the best British players of the last thirty or more years imo.
That’s just silly now, they’re the Madrid supporters and will have a better opinion than many, it’s like a Barca fan telling us Pogba has been a massive success. Were he’s been decent like Bale, no United fan would say Pogba has been a massive success, well maybe one.
Look.
Come on now...
His spell at Madrid specifically.
4 Champions Leagues with 2 decisive goals, in Lisboa and Cardiff + many goals and titles. He has definitely been a success. The problems of the Madrid fans, in my opinion, are based on how badly He did when Cristiano left, being injured one week and perfectly fine the following week with Wales, the laughter on the bench, Barnett's statements attacking to the coach, the Wales.Golf.Madrid flag.
Two fantastic coaches, who won everything and who used him in the past, separately decided that he should not play and that his attitude is bad, it was not decided by the fans or the press
Ha, I did wonder!
Why you bringing Pogba into this?
Would you say he was a massive success though, I’d very much doubt it if you’re being honest.
How was Robben an ordinary winger? He was arguably one of the best wingers of his era.
At his peak I would definitely agree that he's up there with the very best no question asked.
Yep, agreed entirely.
That may be true but the fans and press certainly don’t help!
I am talking about Robbens spell in Madrid. I do agree as a whole he is certainly in the conversation with Bale as world class wingers overall.
what matters are the titles, nothing more. He really justified his signing with the goals in the Champions League finals. Considering his talent, he could have done much more (regardless of his problems with injuries)
No argument. His contribution in those CL finals are well documented, but a separation would be better for all parties last summer or even earlier.
But he did live up to it in Spain, and then some. The thing is people expect him to put up Ronaldo and Messi numbers, but that's not going to happen. He was treated like sh*t. But when you look at the actual numbers, Gareth Bale was better for Real Madrid than Zidanne was. In fact, he was also better than Figo and Ronaldo (Brazil). This isn't my opinion. This is FACT
You’re comparing two totally different generations though, not exactly a reasonable comparison.But he did live up to it in Spain, and then some. The thing is people expect him to put up Ronaldo and Messi numbers, but that's not going to happen. He was treated like sh*t. But when you look at the actual numbers, Gareth Bale was better for Real Madrid than Zidanne was. In fact, he was also better than Figo and Ronaldo (Brazil). This isn't my opinion. This is FACT
Just shows that stats are bollocks cos he is not anywhere near R9, Figo and Zidane in my opinion.But he did live up to it in Spain, and then some. The thing is people expect him to put up Ronaldo and Messi numbers, but that's not going to happen. He was treated like sh*t. But when you look at the actual numbers, Gareth Bale was better for Real Madrid than Zidanne was. In fact, he was also better than Figo and Ronaldo (Brazil). This isn't my opinion. This is FACT
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gareth-bale-reveals-story-behind-18189050
Let's be honest, he knew about the flag and the message on it, he did not care about it when he was dancing with his team mates and he did not bother giving an explanation or apologize after the incident.
Agreed. There’s still a lot of bitterness towards Bale for rejecting United but he is certainly the best British player of the modern era if we judge it by influence and impact at the very highest level.
It doesn't matter. All that matters is the player. I don't care if he cost $.05 or $5000000000000. A player should be judged on their performance only. That's it. How much their club paid for them is irrelevant. All that matters is performance and Bale was better for Real Madrid than all of these other legends. The only difference is that for some reason they never took to him for some reason and because of that, he gave them a big FU and I don't blame him one bit
So what are you basing your opinion on? Obviously not football. Must be a popularity contest because for Real Madrid, none of them were better than Bale...
Such a lazy argument. Different teams, different eras, different roles.But he did live up to it in Spain, and then some. The thing is people expect him to put up Ronaldo and Messi numbers, but that's not going to happen. He was treated like sh*t. But when you look at the actual numbers, Gareth Bale was better for Real Madrid than Zidanne was. In fact, he was also better than Figo and Ronaldo (Brazil). This isn't my opinion. This is FACT
He stopped caring when the fans and the club stopped caring. I don't blame him. They treated him like shi*t after he was instrumental in winning a bunch of silverware and single handedly winning them a champions league. I applaud him. They want to treat him like sh*t? Fine then. He will happily sit on the bench and let the club waste wages on him
What? When? They were drawing in the 2 finals he scored in.... and at the point of him scoring, strong favourites to go on to win. So no, that's not true.
