Huh? He has won 3 Champion's Leagues as well as La Liga. That's as many CL trophies as United has won in a half century. I'd say he has been in a very good place.
Gareth Bale | Mourinho: "Game over. Now everyone knows he's going to stay."
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He does have injury problems but people are exaggerating this quite abit here. Plus he is a game-changer, which is rare and what we lack of.
Let's not forget last summer he has shined in the Euro, in Madrid though he is never the main man (who else would be anyway), but he did play a big part in helping Madrid winning league and a couple CL titles over past few years.
Let's not forget last summer he has shined in the Euro, in Madrid though he is never the main man (who else would be anyway), but he did play a big part in helping Madrid winning league and a couple CL titles over past few years.
Is this in response to the numbers that were given earlier in the thread (or had they just gone with games played and not games misssd on injury)
I agree with that.
The Perisic fee is hefty but it's not ridiculous in this current market. I think Jose now thinks there is a sniff of landing Bale and that's the only reason the Perisic deal is on hold, let's face it we are only pence away from what they want.
We must have had some encouragement re Bale.
If Bale is so injury prone, Real would not have kept him for as long as they have.
What ? He's injury prone, him staying there means nothing as they paid so much for him, they sort of had to gamble on him by being more patient than normal.
What? He is on a long term contract and getting huge wages they couldn't get rid of him even if he never played a game
According to ESPN this morning Chelsea are bidding for Bale.
Agent P where are you?
Agent P where are you?
Well we'll get to see who was right - those of us who want him, or those who think he'll spend most of his time too injured to be useful. I fear we'll look on with regret, assuming he was ever gettable. He may well prefer a move back to London anyway.
Oh come on, Bale is one of the best players in the world. They'll be a few big clubs interested in him. We've had injury prone players in the past who barely played and we managed to get rid of most of those.
If Bale is available, Jose will be interested and we will battle it out with Chelsea for his signature.
Bale is 28 but his career imo currently has no legacy. He didn't stay at Spurs to say win them something (can you imagine a fit Bale in this spurs team) and although he's won stuff at Real, it's been completely overshadowed by CR. CR here left a legacy and continues to build one at Real. If Bale left tmw, he just be one of the many stars that came and went at that club.
I think that's partially why Neymar went (aside from the money), Barca is all about Messi and the rest are the supporting act. Bales barely played any football to justify the trophies he's won and needs to think more about football and less about his lifestyle. That can come once his career is over.
I think that's partially why Neymar went (aside from the money), Barca is all about Messi and the rest are the supporting act. Bales barely played any football to justify the trophies he's won and needs to think more about football and less about his lifestyle. That can come once his career is over.
Bale does not strike me as someone who has an ego to care about legacy. I'ts no shame to be in the shadow of Ronaldo. He's at probably the biggest club in the world winning CL trophies ect. Unless Madrid do not want him to stay, there is no footballing reasons for him to leave. Plus with the spate of injuries he has had in the last couple seasons I doubt his fitness will improve with the vigorous nature of the PL.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...bale-real-madrid-premier-league-a7615366.html
I realise that this is probably poor business sense, but if I was in charge of the club I'd make him an offer now and explain that this summer is the final time that we'll be in for him. Give him a decision to make rather than have him thinking he can do another season or 2 at Madrid and we'll always be waiting with open arms for him once he decides he wants to come back to English football.
If he doesn't want to come then fine, get Perisic signed and never look back. Otherwise I can see this being like the Ronaldo thing...with the difference that Ronaldo is rarely injured and is the best in the world.
If he doesn't want to come then fine, get Perisic signed and never look back. Otherwise I can see this being like the Ronaldo thing...with the difference that Ronaldo is rarely injured and is the best in the world.
Who knows...and he might not. No shame to be in the shadow of Messi either but I guess it's what you want for your career. I get the feeling that's what separates the Ronaldo's and Messi's, and probably now Neymar too as they aren't playing second to nobody. I'm think the opposite to you cause there's every football reason to leave. Like I said, I'm sure he'll retire with a few medals but even David May has a CL medal. Not sure he'll feel the same about it as Becks though....
Was this really going to happen .Would have loved it if true but this is just some looking for that galactico fix.
Bale is not in the same class as those 3 in terms of talent and commercial profile to have a team built around him IMHO.
I thought that's why he went to Madrid in the first place? Kind of reiterates the point. From a football point of view, he's no further on than when he left spurs. From a trophy and monetary terms, clearly worth it.
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In a good place personally. I don't get the sense anyone in Madrid is going to see him as any kind of club legend or give a rats ass if he leaves.
I think that if Bale joined United, the club would make it into a massive thing and with good reason. It would possibly be something even bigger than when Pogba joined. It would flog a load of extra shirts for Adidas (not that we get much from that; think we get 10%?). I'd say if acceptable to all parties then absolutely go for him!
Ah, I see your error now, much more clear to me. You mistakenly thought that the only reason why the club doesn't get a specific player is because there isn't a budget for that player. To you, there is no other reason why Dembele or another similar potentially expensive talent wouldn't be in the team. That's a very FM or FIFA mentality..."I have the budget so I'll go get Messi for my team." However, you've forgotten to consider some real issues, does the player want to come to Manchester, does the manager fancy the player and think he is a fit for his plan, will the player settle well, is the player ready for playing in the EPL and for Man Utd in particular, will the player fit in with the rest of the squad, etc.
Oh, and of course, will the current team sell the player (in the absence of a buy out clause). It's for these reasons why it's not as simple as filing out a shopping list and goi g to Amazon to fill your order. Why isn't Greizman on the team, because he didn't want to come. Why isn't Dembele on the team, because BVB will reject every offer, etc.
To see a lack of transfer activity and ascribe it solely to a lack of budget is a simplistic and farscial view on reality. Could it be a lack of budget, of course, but there is a lack of direct evidence to support that view (where is the quote from Ed or Mou that we are out of funds). But to say, as a fact, that it is THE reason, without a shred of proof is just guessing and not fact.
Bale when fit is world class and can compare to messi and ronaldo, neymar and griezmann are nowhere near to him.He is actually Ronaldo clone, who actually plays with left and is slightly better at dribbling.But he is a gamble, as he has become injury prone and is great risk buying him, considering the money that should be spent on him.When fit, I can't imagine myself picking other player before him.
Completely agree. He has no historical relationship with the club; wasn't signed by current manager; he's not Spainish or French; commercially worth nowt and can't imagine there's many kids around the world with Bale on their back; doesn't play for a high profile international team and spends half his time injured. Arguable there's a Spanish lad called Isco that might not cost as much but already proved contributes more to the Real team.
Whether he is the right or wrong signing for us, his profile here would different in every single way.
He won't have a legacy on the level of Ronaldo at all, but he's still been an excellent player for Real and I'm sure they'll always appreciate his contribution.
Could argue that his legacy may lie with Wales to a greater extent: his key role in getting them to the semis in 2016 means he'll be remembered incredibly fondly.
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This describes a ton of footballers though. Plenty are ultimately going to their respective clubs for glory and money, and it'd be no different if he was coming here. Would love to have him in our side though.
I wasn't describing other players but a reason for why as the previous poster highlighted, Real wouldn't be that bothered about him leaving. Maybe not coming here but the transfer would be different if he was going back to spurs or CR coming back to Utd. Clubs and fans do look at transfers (In or Out) differently when they have a relationship with the player. Pogba also proves this.....
I mean it.Look where he took Wales to at the Euros, not the mention the first season at Real and his time at Spurs.Great player, reminds me a lot of Ronnies style of play when he was at Utd.
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Too injury prone for a player that in this market will easily cost 150-200M €. So, no thanks.
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He really wasn't that good at the Euros, there were a couple of Welsh players who were comfortably better than he was
He should stay at Madrid at all costs IMO - he's sitting on a massive contract well beyond his actual worth, and like he says in the quotes above the game is much easier for him in La Liga then if he came back to the Premier League. There he gets to celebrate all the trophies won by Ronaldo and the boys as well as living in the paradise that is Spain (where I'm sure they never see a drop of rain, unlike Manchester which is seemingly in a permanent monsoon according to some foreign footballers apparently). The Spanish press might turn on him, but the press here will always be up his arse so I'm sure he could live with that.
I see no reason why he should leave Real, however much they might want him gone.
I see no reason why he should leave Real, however much they might want him gone.
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Well he did scored 3 goals in the Euros was Welsh all time top scorer in major tournaments though.. so yeh he really wasn't that good at all...
What? Like who?
But you have to admit his hair has fallen out in clumps and that would never have happened under Sir Alex.
Dodged a bullet. Too injury prone for £90 million. Good player to have when fit.
Sad but true. Bale is no Giggs in terms of fitness and longevity.
We'd probably look to renegotiate the Adidas contract if we got him.
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