I simply love when Bayern fans of all people start complaining about refsMan of the match: Deniz Aytekin
At least Dortmund fans don't have a reason to whine about the referee today.Man of the match: Deniz Aytekin
Would be curious to hear what Bellingham has to say about himAt least Dortmund fans don't have a reason to whine about the referee today.
The injuries of Davies and de Ligt were crucial. Stanisic had to play on the wrong side and couldn't control the quick Adeyemi. Davies wouldn't have had these problems.Turns out we're still pretty shit, after Leverkusen in disarray and overwhelmed Viktoria Plzeň papered over the cracks. Especially in the Leverkusen game I felt that an even slightly more competent attack would have hurt us, and now here we are.
Anthony Modeste?Wer schießt ganz am Ende ziemlich fest?
The ref was scandalous,let's RIbery bumb in agreement:The injuries of Davies and de Ligt were crucial. Stanisic had to play on the wrong side and couldn't control the quick Adeyemi. Davies wouldn't have had these problems.
I usually don't like to talk about the ref. But letting Bellingham continue but sent off Coman with a second yellow is at least debatable.
Otherwise the second half was very dominant and Dortmund didn't even get close to the goal until their first goal. It came out of nothing.
Still not that bothered. 2nd match we lose a lead with the last kick. Better now than later in the season.
Depends a bit on the referee. Aytekin is generally respected and a ref where you can quickly be send off if you do it too much.
I've only seen the highlights but it is me that the player's reactions (on both sides) or lack of towards the bookings seems quite tame and 'respectful' especially for a big game like this? I.e They're not charging, surrounding and screaming in his face etc.
Is that a Bundesliga thing? Seems way more disciplined that we would see in the Premier League games.
What happened?Would be curious to hear what Bellingham has to say about him
Bellingham (unintentionally) kicked Davies in the face while going for the ball. In a vacuum that would most likely have been a yellow card (in this case his second of the match), but in the ref's own words he showed leniency, because Bellingham didn't see him coming and Davies (supposedly) had his head low. He also admitted that the first card against Bellingham was (too) harsh, because he wanted to calm down the game. So he didn't want to send him off so early as a consequence of his "vibe carding".What happened?
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I saw the Bellingham yellow, it was a clean tackle and no need for a card. Typical Bayern twats surrounding the ref immediately.Bellingham (unintentionally) kicked Davies in the face while going for the ball. In a vacuum that would most likely have been a yellow card (in this case his second of the match), but in the ref's own words he showed leniency, because Bellingham didn't see him coming and Davies (supposedly) had his head low. He also admitted that the first card against Bellingham was (too) harsh, because he wanted to calm down the game. So he didn't want to send him off so early as a consequence of his "vibe carding".
I watched the game at the stadium, so I didn't have the TV angles beyond what's shown in the highlights, but the refereeing seemed to be all over the place - harsh card against Bellingham to establish dominance, but then Goretzka get's a high five after two incidents and then of course the aforementioned leniency on Bellingham's foul against Davies. Then later he sends Coman off for some shirt pulling midfield, but keeps Sane on for what looked like a red card offense (haven't seen the replays of it, so I might be wrong).
Aside from that a premium reaction gif was born yesterday:
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Definitely unnecessary/idiotic from Kahn but Aytekin set himself up for this with his explanation for not sending Bellingham off.This appears to be Bayern's CEO complaining about a referee on Twitter? Is it possible?
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I personally think that Bellingham being on a (singular) yellow card after the first half was the correct outcome, Aytekin just messed up how things arrived there, by first giving Bellingham a stupid card and then he had to keep the card to himself in the second incident to balance things out. Though I can understand why Bayern's officials only look at the second incident and when the ref messes up it's only fair to criticize them for it. Aytekin should referee what's in front of him, not hand out or withhold cards based on what vibe the game is having.Definitely unnecessary/idiotic from Kahn but Aytekin set himself up for this with his explanation for not sending Bellingham off.
I think (similar to Terzic's first tenure) Dortmund have gotten a bit tougher mentally in these one-off games. The team was pretty close to beating City away and all four goals conceded in those two fixtures seemed avoidable, if the club hadn't signed a backup keeper from the second division. But I think the table being close is much more Bayern's weakness than Dortmund's strength.So Bayern have only won one of the last six matches in the league (1W 4D 1L) and Dortmund hasn't crumbled against Bayern...
Still early days and Dortmund hasn't a great season as well, but somehow this season feels much more interesting than the last seasons did.
He is probably referring to Aytekin's pretty weird explanation why he didn't give a second yellow to Bellingham.This appears to be Bayern's CEO complaining about a referee on Twitter? Is it possible?
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(Disclaimer: I didn't watch the game.)Didn't think Bellingham should've gotten a second yellow, he was going for the ball and Davies lowered his head as well so it wasn't as if Bellingham had his foot in a very dangerous position. Can understand the refs decision.
Yes, that Jablonski did not show any empathy towards Cologne and destroyed the match... - not like the super-Aytekin the day before...The duality of Kainz: wins a penalty, scores the penalty / gives away a penalty on the other end, get's sent off for it
Are you for real? We have seen calls much worse than this against Dortmund for years. Now one time Bayern have a little grievance and the referee has to explain himself on Sky and the next day in a talk show while the Bayern CEO sends angry tweets - if anything it highlights the pressure radiating out from Bayern ... ....and your reaction is this?Yes, that Jablonski did not show any empathy towards Cologne and destroyed the match... - not like the super-Aytekin the day before...
I just wonder how that would be taken in the other direction - not showing a clear red to a Bayern player and reason it with empathy toward not destroying a match... - he probably would never be a referee in a Bundesliga match again... - for sure not for some weeks and probably never one that Dortmund plays in... - we could remember the story last season when Aytekin gave Dahoud a red card in the first half...
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You do realize, that you are responding to a very biased Bayern fan, right? You won’t get a neutral/objective conversation.Are you for real? We have seen calls much worse than this against Dortmund for years. Now one time Bayern have a little grievance and the referee has to explain himself on Sky and the next day in a talk show while the Bayern CEO sends angry tweets - if anything it highlights the pressure radiating out from Bayern ... ....and your reaction is this?
You will not get one with a Dortmund fan either.You do realize, that you are responding to a very biased Bayern fan, right? You won’t get a neutral/objective conversation.
Hincapie is crazy.
I don't know, I'd say Hincapie, Tapsoba, Tah, Frimpong is better than what Leipzig can currently line up. As a collective they are better at defending but player for player, I don't think so.