This clichee is annoying me for a very long time now. Always the same sentences "Germany have no stars, no outstanding players, but they are strong as a TEAM and have a great mentality", etc.
It is true, we are strong as a team! But to think that our players get restricted to this properties (not by everyone though) is kinda disrespectful imo.
Of course, we have no Messi, no Ronaldo and no Robben. But only 3 teams in the world have them.
But let me start individually.
GK - Neuer
By far the best keeper in the world. No doubt about that. I wouldn't go as far yet, but some are already claiming that he could be the best of all time.
CB - Hummels, Boateng, Mertesacker, (Badstuber!)
The Hummels and Boateng pairing was the best CB pairing in this whole tournament. Hummels is playing at the very highest level constantly for BVB, and Boateng doing the same for Bayern. His performance vs Argentina was sensational. Mertesacker is doing well for Arsenal and not even mentioning Badstuber, who was the #1 CB for both Germany and Bayern before his injury. How are they no 'stars' at their position? Are the likes of David Luiz really better?! I doubt that.
FB - Lahm
Together with ST our weakest position. But still: Lahm is easily the best RB in the world for quite some years, captain from both Bayern and Germany. Aside from the EUROs, he has won everything possible now as a captain.
CM - Schweinsteiger, Kroos, Khedira, (Gündogan, many decent players and talents like Kramer, Benders, etc.)
Schweinsteiger is a legend. Not only after winning the WC. Kroos is just 24 years old, probably the biggest prospect in the world at his position and his age. Khedira earns a lot of critismn but still there are reasons why he is playing regularly for both Germany and Real Madrid.
Wings - Reus, Schürrle, Podolski
Okay, Schürrle and Poldolski are decent but no real stars. But what about Reus? He was injured though so he maybe does not count. But still, i think he is potentially one of the VERY best players in the world. He even has flair.
CAM - Özil, Götze, Müller
Now im beeing serious. Neymar and Götze were called the 2 biggest talents in the world last year (maybe together with Hazard) before they moved to Bayern and Barca. I think everyone will agree on this one. I remember a lot of people saying in this forum that they rate Götze higher than Neymar. And they had obvious reasons for that opinion. Götze is playing on the very highest stage since he's 18. He won titles with BVB and played Champions League football as a keyplayer at the age of 20,21. He has proven himself for years already in the european elite even though he is just 22 (same as Neymar and James).
He had a very tough first season for Bayern, playing out of position and beeing injured when the season started. Neymar had almost the same tough season for Barca. And i believe you can excuse both of them. Playing the very first season for 2 of the best teams in the world for a player at this age is really tough. I think both of them could and should explode in the next few years.
But now my question(s):
Why is Neymar seen as a worldwide superstar and Götze not?
What has Neymar done in his career?
What has Götze done in his career?
Think about it.
I think the only thing what Neymar has done better than Götze is his promotion. He is doing commercials all over the world. Because of that he is more popular and well better known. But what has that to do with football? Are we groupies or football fans? Especially now, after Götze beeing a fecking legend scoring the winner in a WC final, Neymar shouldn't even be seen anywhere near him.
And still, the 'experts' and pundits would say "Brazil have Neymar, Germany have no star". wtf?!
I don't even want to start about Müller. How could some argue that he's not a superstar? He has won everything, is just 24, and easily one of the best players in the world. And not only because of his intelligence, workrate, finishing, mentality and positioning, even his pace, passing and dribbling is extremly strong even though it doesn't look(!) like magic. Some are now taking him into the "WC player" bracket like Klose. But what about his CL and Bundesliga archievements?
I think the problem from the german players in that case is that they don't think it is necessary to make promotion all over the world. They have no flair, are not from the south, not handsome enough for some people and they are natural. Most of them just stay in their homecountry and just do what is necessary.
But how could people really argue that we have no stars?
Why only the popular players get rated? Messi player of the tournament says it all. Ronaldo 3rd? If its true:
So, what do you think about this theory:
Germany have no outstanding player, because almost everyone is outstanding. Not only as a team, but individually.
And why are german players not as popular as others? Just because of commercials and flair?
PS.: Sorry maybe this is the wrong forum. If so, you can move it to the football forum.
It is true, we are strong as a team! But to think that our players get restricted to this properties (not by everyone though) is kinda disrespectful imo.
Of course, we have no Messi, no Ronaldo and no Robben. But only 3 teams in the world have them.
But let me start individually.
GK - Neuer
By far the best keeper in the world. No doubt about that. I wouldn't go as far yet, but some are already claiming that he could be the best of all time.
CB - Hummels, Boateng, Mertesacker, (Badstuber!)
The Hummels and Boateng pairing was the best CB pairing in this whole tournament. Hummels is playing at the very highest level constantly for BVB, and Boateng doing the same for Bayern. His performance vs Argentina was sensational. Mertesacker is doing well for Arsenal and not even mentioning Badstuber, who was the #1 CB for both Germany and Bayern before his injury. How are they no 'stars' at their position? Are the likes of David Luiz really better?! I doubt that.
FB - Lahm
Together with ST our weakest position. But still: Lahm is easily the best RB in the world for quite some years, captain from both Bayern and Germany. Aside from the EUROs, he has won everything possible now as a captain.
CM - Schweinsteiger, Kroos, Khedira, (Gündogan, many decent players and talents like Kramer, Benders, etc.)
Schweinsteiger is a legend. Not only after winning the WC. Kroos is just 24 years old, probably the biggest prospect in the world at his position and his age. Khedira earns a lot of critismn but still there are reasons why he is playing regularly for both Germany and Real Madrid.
Wings - Reus, Schürrle, Podolski
Okay, Schürrle and Poldolski are decent but no real stars. But what about Reus? He was injured though so he maybe does not count. But still, i think he is potentially one of the VERY best players in the world. He even has flair.
CAM - Özil, Götze, Müller
Now im beeing serious. Neymar and Götze were called the 2 biggest talents in the world last year (maybe together with Hazard) before they moved to Bayern and Barca. I think everyone will agree on this one. I remember a lot of people saying in this forum that they rate Götze higher than Neymar. And they had obvious reasons for that opinion. Götze is playing on the very highest stage since he's 18. He won titles with BVB and played Champions League football as a keyplayer at the age of 20,21. He has proven himself for years already in the european elite even though he is just 22 (same as Neymar and James).
He had a very tough first season for Bayern, playing out of position and beeing injured when the season started. Neymar had almost the same tough season for Barca. And i believe you can excuse both of them. Playing the very first season for 2 of the best teams in the world for a player at this age is really tough. I think both of them could and should explode in the next few years.
But now my question(s):
Why is Neymar seen as a worldwide superstar and Götze not?
What has Neymar done in his career?
What has Götze done in his career?
Think about it.
I think the only thing what Neymar has done better than Götze is his promotion. He is doing commercials all over the world. Because of that he is more popular and well better known. But what has that to do with football? Are we groupies or football fans? Especially now, after Götze beeing a fecking legend scoring the winner in a WC final, Neymar shouldn't even be seen anywhere near him.
And still, the 'experts' and pundits would say "Brazil have Neymar, Germany have no star". wtf?!
I don't even want to start about Müller. How could some argue that he's not a superstar? He has won everything, is just 24, and easily one of the best players in the world. And not only because of his intelligence, workrate, finishing, mentality and positioning, even his pace, passing and dribbling is extremly strong even though it doesn't look(!) like magic. Some are now taking him into the "WC player" bracket like Klose. But what about his CL and Bundesliga archievements?
I think the problem from the german players in that case is that they don't think it is necessary to make promotion all over the world. They have no flair, are not from the south, not handsome enough for some people and they are natural. Most of them just stay in their homecountry and just do what is necessary.
But how could people really argue that we have no stars?
Why only the popular players get rated? Messi player of the tournament says it all. Ronaldo 3rd? If its true:
So, what do you think about this theory:
Germany have no outstanding player, because almost everyone is outstanding. Not only as a team, but individually.
And why are german players not as popular as others? Just because of commercials and flair?
PS.: Sorry maybe this is the wrong forum. If so, you can move it to the football forum.
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