At least this will put an end to all the pathetic speculation now. If was getting so tedious.
Gill says no more transfers
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
That's the thing though isn't it. Folk are still trying to microanalyse what Gill has said for signs of double meaning and deception.
It's like some kind of Monty Python sketch.
Muppet "Any more signings David?"
Gill "I don't think so"
Muppet <tapping nose> "Ah... you don't THINK so... gotcha... he he he"
Gill "no really, there won't be any more signings at United"
Muppet "he he there won't be any MORE, but there could be the one you're working on already eh?"
Gill "No, I'm not working on any transfers now"
Muppet "Cool, so you've just finished one, probably Sneijder, and then there won't be any more?"
Gill "I'm leaving now"
Muppet "Come back... you didn't say how much Sneijder is costing!"
^ I really hope nobody on here sees it like that.
Well, if I wasn't 100% convinced before, I am now. Off to get my Sneijder 9 home shirt
The Sneijder-speculation really is ridicilous. I've seen so many usaully trustful and sound people be ripped to shreds, deprived of any sleep while furiously masturbating on their pillow, looking at pictures of him shopped into a United-shirt.
Meanwhile, in the real world, Ferguson has constantly, throughout the summer, denied any signing of the Sneijder. This hurts people, so they deny the truth.
The transfers really are strange mechanisms. As God said, not even he knows in this case.. Except we all know he'll play for Inter this season.
Meanwhile, in the real world, Ferguson has constantly, throughout the summer, denied any signing of the Sneijder. This hurts people, so they deny the truth.
The transfers really are strange mechanisms. As God said, not even he knows in this case.. Except we all know he'll play for Inter this season.
Would i like us to add a CM? Yes, if its someone of Sneijder's quality
Do i think we will survive without an addition? Yes, but i think a lot will depend on how Fletcher comes back from illness. He is key in the big games imho.
Do i think we will survive without an addition? Yes, but i think a lot will depend on how Fletcher comes back from illness. He is key in the big games imho.
How so? We coped well without him last year. And against Barcelona he wouldnt have made much of a difference imo.
Fergie spoke at the start of the transfer window about needing to replace Scholes.
Chances are, Fergie identified a few midfield targets but they have either been unavailable, too expensive (no value) or wanted to go elsewhere. As such, rather than settling for someone else and not getting his first choice, Fergie is currently giving out the message that we will simply stick with what we have.
I wouldve thought by now however that the fans would have realised that you cant trust what SAF and Gill say during the transfer window. Every club and their mother knew we were out to replace Scholes and sign a CM, whereas now with Cleverley getting matchtime, Fergie gives off the message that we dont need to buy big. Towards the end of the transfer window (ie now) there will still be players who are likely to move, and some that clubs need to get rid of. Fergie says he is not desperate, so it becomes a buyers market. I wouldnt be surprised to see us snap someone up before the end of the window - not necessarily a world class marquee signing, but a solid reliable player to make up the numbers in midfield.
Chances are, Fergie identified a few midfield targets but they have either been unavailable, too expensive (no value) or wanted to go elsewhere. As such, rather than settling for someone else and not getting his first choice, Fergie is currently giving out the message that we will simply stick with what we have.
I wouldve thought by now however that the fans would have realised that you cant trust what SAF and Gill say during the transfer window. Every club and their mother knew we were out to replace Scholes and sign a CM, whereas now with Cleverley getting matchtime, Fergie gives off the message that we dont need to buy big. Towards the end of the transfer window (ie now) there will still be players who are likely to move, and some that clubs need to get rid of. Fergie says he is not desperate, so it becomes a buyers market. I wouldnt be surprised to see us snap someone up before the end of the window - not necessarily a world class marquee signing, but a solid reliable player to make up the numbers in midfield.
I really don't see what Sneijder would give us that Rooney doesn't already for example, I think we could do with buying a midfield general a la Essien but they aren't growing on trees.
we coped well overall but we still lost a few games against the "big" teams
Im convinced we would have made a better fight off it in both finals we've lost to Barca if Fletcher had been fit and available
He played the full game against Swansea last night for the reserves. I would expect him to return to the first team after the International break.
I agree.
I agree. We'd have made a better fist of winning the ball back from them. He does a great job for us at pressurising opposing midfields and is relentless, which drives the rest of the team on. Hopefully his illness is behind him and he will be available to us this season, although I'd expect it'll take a while before we see him back to his best as he has played so little football for so long.
Depends which Fletcher would've showed up. Last year, he showed signs of trying to become a bit more technical in his play, and it seemed inadvertantly detrimental to his overall game. Didn't look like that psychopath who ate up every blade of grass before him last season (when he did play).
Fletcher would have helped retreive the ball. There's still the little matter of KEEPING it once you get it!
I am convinced that on both occasions we seriously underestimated how much better they were than us.
We never learned, despite what was said during the build up, this year.
There's no value in the market.
If only we'd taken this into account, we could have decided to play better.
Bloody complacency.
One or two might, but they are only marginally dafter than those who think that it's total proof that we won't be signing anybody.
Most people realise that it has little effect on the situation. All through the summer Gill, Fergie, Sneijder's camp and the Inter camp have been saying all sorts of things, some of which contradict each other. At the end of the day, we'll only know whether we're signing him in or not at midnight on 31st. And bring it on, says I.
Sarcasm.... don't you just love it?
Those with their heads out of their arses will understand.
And what about those who are thick skinned enough to take a bit of banter?Sarcasm.... don't you just love it?
Those with their heads out of their arses will understand.
It is my fear that the legend SAF has one repetitious weakness and that is to over-estimate the strength of his midfield.And what about those who are thick skinned enough to take a bit of banter?
I for one don't think we will win much with the kids this year, but I am happy in the knowledge that in the next few years we will be winning most things.
I would love to eat my words.
Think people are seriously overestimating the impact Fletcher would've had.
For one, SAF probably wouldn't have played him anyway, and second, they'd have still hammered us. We needed someone who can keep the ball, not just win it the odd time.
For one, SAF probably wouldn't have played him anyway, and second, they'd have still hammered us. We needed someone who can keep the ball, not just win it the odd time.
While I agree with what you said about Sir Alex over-estimating the strength of the midfield I can't agree on the second paragraph.
The kids? Vidic, Rio, Evra, Nani, Young, Park, Valencia, Carrick, Fletcher, Giggs, Rooney, Berbatov, Chicharito and Owen are hardly kids. Can't count Anderson as one either, Evans has plenty of experience. Rafael has played a lot for a kid his age. We all know that we have a lot of good young players but the balance between older players and younger players is really good in my opinion.
It is my belief that we need another central midfielder because that's the only area where we are pretty thin. Thee of our current real central midfiedlers (not counting Gibson) have had injury and health problems so I just think it's dangerous to go into the season with what we've got. If we stay healthy for the most part I still think we'll win the league even though the quality of our opponents continues to grow. We are better as well and United will always play as a team which makes us even more dangerous. The Champions League is another story though, rather not go into the whole Barcelona and Madrid debate.
Fletcher was playing brilliantly in 2009 and undoubtedly would started if he wasn't suspended and he would have improved us in the midfield. If he'd been fit and in that kind of form he'd also have improved us this year as well. Not saying we would have won, but we'd have been better. When he's playing well he is one of our most influential players.
Whose place would he have taken in both finals?
We will only know the truth come 1 September. No use in arguing about it up until then.
He could have replaced Giggs in 2009, possibly Hernández in 2011.
Fletcher would have started both finals if he was available.
Me too, its only us United fans the rate him so highly , he just gets a shrug of the shoulders from other supporters
Fair enough.
But would he have changed the outcome of the game? I don't think so.
Nonsense. Pure speculation to say he would have.
Especially 2011 when Fergie felt that XI was doing so well because of the Chelsea games.
The lad certainly has some qualities, but he is no more than a squad player in my opinion. He is a fellow Scot and I should be biased in his favour, but he simply doesn't cut it for me.
I have seen him run around headless too many times, for my liking.
I have faith that Wellbeck and Cleverley are set to be monumental Utd players. Chicarito is already banging on the door of greatness and the future is very, very bright, but maybe not this season.
I believe in Darren Fletcher
Fletcher was not at his best last season, and some people tend to have very short memories at times.
2 years ago he was very important for the team, even someone like Mourinho acknowledged that ..
https://www.redcafe.net/f6/mourinho-darren-fletcher-250892/
If he s fully fit I m sure he ll play an important part this season because none of our current central midfielders has offers Fletcher's defensive qualities.
Oh ye muppets, I say unto you: lasciate ogni speranza voi ch'entrate. For Gill hath spoken and we are damned to wail and curse our ill fortune until he leads us from this circle of want and vain hope into the land of transfer bliss, where all who are summoned by the caf to wear the red shirt will come.
I've been in this camp all summer. Sneijder and Rooney would constantly be in each others' way. Get a destroyer or something and sit them deep and give Cleverley or Anderson license to break forward and attack the space.
Like how David Silva and Nasri or going to clash or how Messi, Villa and Iniesta bump heads or is it how Rooney and Tevez got in each others way?
Ones a striker the other is a midfield there not going to start holding hands..