I like de zerbi but there is not that much difference between them. Potter is the one who transformed Brighton, and had the club playing modern possession football before leaving. They are well run, but weren't going anywhere under their previous manager before Potter came along.
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Potter would be such an underwhelming appointment
The history of our club is dominated by underachievement, with a very small number of exceptional managers (basically two) bringing periods of unbelievable success. We seem to be searching for the next Busby or Ferguson in an era when an individual manager neither has the time nor the power to make a long-term impact all on their own.
Just imagine the scenes on here if he wants to play with wing-backs and we get linked to Cucurella in January. What a way to usher the new era in...
We ain't attracting any top managers anytime soon. This is about the level of manager we can hope to get.
I'd take Carrick over Potter too. Potter has more serious CV but he has the blemish of not making it under a similar job, at Chelsea.
The only issue is, I want a ruthless ownership that will fire Carrick if things don't work out and doesn't get swayed by the pundits who are Carrick's mates. Real Madrid fired Zidane twice. We shouldn't be sentimental with people in position of power and control, if they show signs of not being up to the task
ETH already tried to sign Cucurella last summer.Just imagine the scenes on here if he wants to play with wing-backs and we get linked to Cucurella in January. What a way to usher the new era in...
One thing that is maybe worth noting is that we've also been linked with Newcastle's Sporting Director Dan Ashworth for the DOF role by similarly unconvincing sources. He previously worked as Technical Director at Brighton while Potter was there.
So if we're entertaining the idea that there's even the slightest truth in these reports, it perhaps becomes more likely if Ashworth was appointed. But they're also just easy stories to write.
So if we're entertaining the idea that there's even the slightest truth in these reports, it perhaps becomes more likely if Ashworth was appointed. But they're also just easy stories to write.
They weren't going anywhere under Potter either!
They had a strong finish to 21/22 (including a 4-0 drubbing of a rudderless Utd) and started 22/23 well (including a 1-2 win at OT against a still rudderless Utd under EtH) which convinced Chelsea to give him a shot...which they quickly regretted! Other than that, his main achievement was avoiding relegation every year.
He did an admirable job at Brighton, but they finished with a negative goal difference every season he was in charge. A real modern coach came in after him and showed exactly how to play good football with pretty much the same group of players.
Brighton's success has a lot more to do with the long term planning and recruitment of those above the manager, not the manger themselves.
Let's hope Potter will get his present by Sir Jim, then!
Sky Sports again using United to gain veiwers and put unneccessary pressure on the United Job.
Didnt see this for Arteta did we?
Didnt see this for Arteta did we?
Look at those vultures, they must sense something.
That's fair. The concern that he took Brighton as far as he could, and whether or not he can take a top club to the next step, is totally fair. He is far from a guarantee, but I'm just not freaking out like some because he is certainly not a Moyes. The guy was thrown into the Chelsea situation with no preseason, no transfer window.
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What a great way to piss off an entire fanbase
The tragic thing which makes me think it might be true:
English manager - check
zero bargaining power so will be cheap - check
Happy to only be head coach - check
Weak/non difficult personality - check
English manager - check
zero bargaining power so will be cheap - check
Happy to only be head coach - check
Weak/non difficult personality - check
I dont think he would be any good, but i agree with the poster that we have turned into a graveyard for managers and players alike. Joining us is like a career ender.
I wouldn't panic if we appointed him, I just think it would be a complete waste of time in the long run because he's not good enough.
He might steady the ship and have some limited success, but I think it would become obvious quite quickly that we'd need an upgrade. He doesn't have what it takes to compete with the likes of Pep and Klopp. He probably doesn't have what it takes to compete with Emery, or even Howe. RDZ has quite quickly shown himself to be a far more inventive coach than Potter ever did at Brighton. Now, I know you can argue the exact same thing about the current manager at the moment, but that wasn't the case when we appointed him.
If your aim is to just replace EtH with someone who will consistently get us into the Europa League and never live up to what we expect from the club, then you may as well re-hire Moyes.
It's an easy link to make given that he's English, available and was considered for the Nice job. Brailsford was the one who was pushing for him there so I guess this could depend on how much influence he would have here.
I don't he would take the job even if he was offered it. The Chelsea debacle has surely destroyed his confidence in taking on an elite club job?
Let’s be honest we could have any manager in the world, this is Manchester United
This seems to be the case so far thankfully, although it’s the kind of thing that can grow legs and momentum on its own.
There's no way an absolute nobody like Potter would even think about turning United down. He's not Zidane.
Gotta be bullshit obviously but if it did come to fruition then I hope all those who were twerking for Jimbo and his magic beans are happy with what would be a disastrous start to his tenure as a MINORITY investor, the Glazers must be laughing their tits off
These kind of jobs may never come up again. He may well have learned a lot from his time at Chelsea and would love an opportunity to have another go at a top club and do things differently. It's a bigger gamble for the club than for Potter.
Still think he's a good manager, took the Chelsea job way too early and still think he lacks the charisma/personality for a top job but that Chelsea squad is arse, most managers would struggle there as we've seen with Poch now.
Seeing so many being against him here makes me think he will do just fine. The caf is usually wrong.
Forget Potter.
Even at Brighton, he wasn’t overly impressive, scraping away from relegation 2/3 seasons and never scoring any goals.
His stint at Chelsea and his lack of charisma are more than enough evidence that it would be a disaster here.
Standards have dropped, but it’s still a massive club. The fact he did just ok at Brighton, “the best run club in the country” is actually a mark against him! He certainly won’t have that comfort here and when he did have it, he was average at best.
It would be an absolute disaster of an appointment.
Would it be cruel to get on our knees and beg Fergie to come out of retirement? He still got 40 years left in him at least
Weird his reputation has been hit so hard by his time at Chelsea. He came into a sinking skip, he did do a bad job but so have the next 2 managers, and Poch has arguably done a worse job because he has a better squad and a pre-season. Yet Poch's reputation will still be intact because he beat Ajax 20 years ago and lost a CL final and won the league with a team way better than the rest in the league.
Potter is a good manager, not a top-level manager, but a good manager to say the least.
You realise our squad is arse too, right?
Because Ratcliffe sounds like Radcliffe who played Harry Potter
This is not true at all. He took them over after they had just stayed up on 36 points. In his final full season they ended on 51 points and the start of the season he left was on track to be even better.
Finally uniting the world class Mount-Potter pairing.
They Are Scared.
They Are Scared.
Modern football is about more than just the manager. It’s the whole football structure at a modern club that performs the roles fulfilled by Ferguson alone - the idea being that each specialises and focuses on their individual key area.
United (including the fans) need to break away from the idea of one man having ultimate control and reform/implement a modern football structure.
Until we do we will never achieve continuity let alone any success.
I seem to remember 85% of the caf wanting Ten Hag. I did'nt - I wanted Conte just for the spectacle of him going ballistic on the touchline and ripping the lazy players we have to pieces.......
He's been BlueCo's best manager so far... If that is an endorsement, also still on the payroll I think.
Sarcasm?
no, this is Mancherster United