Is he not a rapper?How the feck can anyone even mention kanye? He's in the top 10 of producers. Maybe.
This is like discussing algebra with geese.
Well rapping!? What 16 bars has Kanye ever dropped that anyone ever felt necessary to rewind and listen again?Is he not a rapper?
What are we discussing then, who's the most technical? Who has better bars? I don't care about any of that if their material is mediocre.
I'm not going to defend Kanye "I like putin" West's bars. But I bet there's a few.Well rapping!? What 16 bars has Kanye ever dropped that anyone ever felt necessary to rewind and listen again?
We are talking about rappers. That automatically eliminates Dr Dre. Chuck D is East Coast. Easy-E... Was very unique but really didn't have a career outside of NWA, so noFrom what I said about Snoop not being in the top 20 most influential artists, there are several of the West Coast artists that I would have above him.
Ice Cube, Dr Dre, Eazy-E, Ice-T, Chuck D and 2Pac (he is seen as more West than East regardless of where he was born). Snoop for me comes it at number 7. It just so happens that Rap originated in the East Coast, so of course there are going to be more influential artists from the East than West.
Just because I said Snoop is not in the top 20 most influential artists, doesn't take away from the fact he was a huge influence in the industry.
Kanye's catalog is one of the best ever primarily because of the production and content, not because of Kanye's bars (which is what this thread primarily is about)I'm not going to defend Kanye "I like putin" West's bars. But I bet there's a few.
What I wanted to say though, is "The greatest living rapper" for me is someone who has the best catalogue. If Tonedeff can spit more words per second or Aesop Rock (who I like a lot) can use the most unique words in his songs, it means nothing for me in this context.
well, he is a rapper and a producer.How the feck can anyone even mention kanye? He's in the top 10 of producers. Maybe.
This is like discussing algebra with geese.
Deck is great and hugely underrated. Big fan of what he's doing with Czarface right now, who have put out so much material in the last 10 years or so, and it mostly flies under the radar.What do people think of Inspectah Deck? I always see Method Man, Raekwon and Ghostface Killa as high on lists, but from interviews, most of Wu Tang have Inspectah Deck as the best rapper of the group.
I'm not going to defend Kanye "I like putin" West's bars. But I bet there's a few.
What I wanted to say though, is "The greatest living rapper" for me is someone who has the best catalogue. If Tonedeff can spit more words per second or Aesop Rock (who I like a lot) can use the most unique words in his songs, it means nothing for me in this context.
well, he is a rapper and a producer.
you can be a technically brilliant rapper but if all your songs are shite then i'm not going to say you're a great rapper. maybe we're discussing different things though.
personally i don't have a problem with kanye's rapping.
drake can rap?Drake
the numbers speak for themselves
Who even remembers Takeover!? (Even there his best line is stolen from Scorcese)
keep 'em coming.A lot of Jay's best lines are stolen and the fact he decided to finally diss Nas at a time Nas took time off music to care for his dying mom was not a good look for Jay.
He clearly thought Nas wouldn't come back at him and couldn't handle it when he did hence crying on the radio when he lost a vote from his station.
I actually like Jay but he is what he is a very good rapper who went down the commercial route to sell more records and make a lot of money
This is just.... epic.Based on quality of their albums, it's between Kendrick and that Hitler fanboy.
JID and Little Simz are someone who could take the crown in the future.
Surely Ryan B and Quincy P are up there too.Memphis D
Always thought “Babel Rap” would make a sick name for an album. Instead of an album sleeve, each record could be covered with bubble wrap. Promotional.Surely Ryan B and Quincy P are up there too.
He bought Death Row and its whole back catalogue, took all the early stuff off of streaming, was trying to sell them as nfts or something, its a cash grab from SnoopSnoop has been Cuddly Snoop for so long since he distanced himself from Death Row, it’s easy to forget how savage his first records were. G’z and Hustlas on Doggystyle being a prime example, Snoop at his most fire. And I just discovered his early stuff isn’t on Spotify, wtf?
He's a great lyricist, it's just now been lost by him probably being the biggest name to ever come out of rap/hip hop. It's meant him jumping on plenty of pop songs in the mainstream where he can do paint by numbers Snoop and keep his name relevant and make plenty of money. He's been a master of that from music to shows to adverts etc.A huge figure for the culture, for sure, but purely as a lyricist he's not in the conversation for me.