I’d understand this answer if one of the questions posed were «who’d you rather sleep with». So weird. Haaland is currently so far ahead it’s not even worth asking.
Greenwood vs Haaland
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greenwood and haaland are two totally different players. both would be perfect
You can't even compare them.
Greenwood is a 19 years old kid
Haaland is a 25 years old whose id says otherwise.
Their playstyle is pretty different.
Haaland is already a superstar, Mason is in the making.
Maybe in 10 years Mason will be at his prime, and Haaland wasted like Rooney.
It's too hard to predict.
So yeah, if it is for this moment, go for Haaland, as he is already in the top 5 best CF. Mason might be for the future anyway.
Greenwood is a 19 years old kid
Haaland is a 25 years old whose id says otherwise.
Their playstyle is pretty different.
Haaland is already a superstar, Mason is in the making.
Maybe in 10 years Mason will be at his prime, and Haaland wasted like Rooney.
It's too hard to predict.
So yeah, if it is for this moment, go for Haaland, as he is already in the top 5 best CF. Mason might be for the future anyway.
Yup. The football world is clueless. @lenny_1248 and @Eplel are way more knowledgeable than top scouts and DoFs.
Hilariously bad takes here.
How can Haaland who‘s consistently smashing the shite out of goal scoring records be overrated?
You cannot compare two very different playing styles with each other and clearly two different trajectories. Haaland is hands down in better form now, and his career to date has evolved exponentially in 18 months. Greenwood somewhat plateaued last season, but has bags of potential and could quite easily be a 30 plus goals a year striker, should he focus on his god given talent.
Imagine if Haaland was around at the same time as Ronaldo, we would be writing off Ronaldo at 20. I remember back in them days many fans being frustrated with him, the rest is now history though I don't think Greenwood would ever reach Ronaldo's level. Also, look at Salah, written off at Chelsea and only reached his potential in his mid 20s and banging in 20 plus a season in the league. Kane became a goal machine early 20s, would you write him off?
Who cares if Haaland has scored more goals in the German league where only 2 or 3 teamsbare really any good, could he do it on a Tuesday night in Stoke?
Jokes aside, i back Greenwood to become class, quote me in 4 years if you need too.
Imagine if Haaland was around at the same time as Ronaldo, we would be writing off Ronaldo at 20. I remember back in them days many fans being frustrated with him, the rest is now history though I don't think Greenwood would ever reach Ronaldo's level. Also, look at Salah, written off at Chelsea and only reached his potential in his mid 20s and banging in 20 plus a season in the league. Kane became a goal machine early 20s, would you write him off?
Who cares if Haaland has scored more goals in the German league where only 2 or 3 teamsbare really any good, could he do it on a Tuesday night in Stoke?
Jokes aside, i back Greenwood to become class, quote me in 4 years if you need too.
Some players take more time to mature into their roles. If I remember correctly RVP also started his career as a wide forward then slowly transitioning to a CF in his mid 20's before become the goal machine we all know and love.
Who knows, maybe Mason can repeat his story arc.
Edit: It's a shame it's not 1999 anymore and 4-4-2 isn't the go to formation. Imagine Greenwood playing off Haaland's shoulder.
We won't get Haaland, but no question who is better. Haaland is a monster and Greenwood has a lot to prove, but can be a Van Persie regen still IMO. But that's definitely a slower development. I'm not sure if he'll be ready to be a starting CF for a while yet.
No nobody turns down a proven Champions League scorer like Haaland. It's moot anyway, Haaland will never play for United.
Greenwood could have a great career or he might end up having a solid premier league career at another club
Greenwood could have a great career or he might end up having a solid premier league career at another club
Or in other words, out of 5 things I would look for a CF, he is only good in one of those. Maybe in future he could developed more, but right now he is lacking abit for such role.
Think Greenwood will end up out wide rather than through the middle personally. Only way he plays up top is if we are extremely fluid with an interchanging front 3, this goes even further if we do switch to a 433 which requires a more physically dominant striker as compared to a 4231 which has the AM closer to stop that isolation.
Haaland has proven he's a world beater. Any team that has t funds would would be absolutely mad not to try and get Haaland. Money plus players next summer.
I am not sure about Haaland, but Greenwood is very weak at heading the ball. Unless he spectacularly improves, he will never be United's CF. He needs to do a Rooney, who in one off-season trained his heading so much that he started scoring most of his goals using his head at the start of that season. Or am I imagining this?
Lets not be delusional, Haaland is a far superior talent to greenwood until proven otherwise. Greenwood needs to show us this season if thats true or not.
Peak Greenwood (If expectations are met) is Robin Van Persie.
Peak Haaland (If expectations are met) is Lewandowski.
Hot take : I see Greenwood's future as a RF, not as a CF.
Kinda like Salah. Dont think he is a proper #9. Havent seen anything in his game that suggests he is. Right now on current ability, he is a very good RW, and an average CF.
Kinda like Salah. Dont think he is a proper #9. Havent seen anything in his game that suggests he is. Right now on current ability, he is a very good RW, and an average CF.
I love Mase, but if it's possible to sign Haaland, it would be insane to waste that chance. He is a freak of nature. I don't think it matters, either way. The chances of Haaland signing for us are not that good. I'm also not convinced that Greenwood will make the move to be our #9. I think he will continue to play as a RWF.
Obviously Haaland is better, don't think anyone disputes that if we can sign him, we should. However if we can't, Greenwood is the reason we shouldn't just panic-buy someone else.
I'm a huge fan of Greenwood, and think he has great potential. But the problem with potential is that it doesn't always carry through - he could be an elite striker in 5 years time, he could also be sitting on the bench for West Ham. Haaland is already elite - if we can get him, we should try.
To be fair, the detail that enthralls people the most, as far as the raw numbers are concerned, isn't just that Håland scored over 25 goals in the Bundesliga last season at rate of a goal every 89 minutes (a noteworthy accomplishment that is being diminished all too easily); but that he scored 20 total goals in the Champions League over the course of 14 matches (for context, Lewandowski scored 15 goals in 10 matches in his best ever season in 2019—20) before reaching his 21st birthday. No young striker, even the great prodigies of yesteryear, had done what he managed to do in the the most celebrated club tournament on a statistical level — ever, and not just in a specific era — that rewriting of history books in logic-defying manner is what makes him a bit extraordinary.
Now, he might be an early bloomer in the midst of a prolonged purple patch that isn't truly indicative of his median production level over the course of a career...and will likely never boast the underappreciated all-round brilliance of Benzema, Eto'o or Villa as a center-forward even when he reaches his prospective prime, but when you combine Håland's anomalous physical tools (most prominently a devastating turn of pace in an Ibrahimović-esque frame) with his already masterful movement, unnatural mentality and the brunt of quantitative evidence thus far, you are looking at someone who is tantalizingly close to establishing himself as the benchmark of Champions League goal-plundering in the post-Cristiano/Messi/Lewandowski period.
That is why so many major clubs have expressed an interest in acquiring him, even at the risk of dealing with a crafty hard-liner like Mino Raiola. Some players simply possess an extra dimension in the big stage from the beginning, and shouldn't be scaled by just league performance as that's an inadequate barometer; Mbappé was/is a prime example in several competitions, Håland looks like another in domestic and continental football, Pedri put forth a good case over recent months; whether Greenwood reaches that rarest of rare grades in the future (particularly in the Champions League for United) remains to be seen, and as such, requires a leap of faith — and that is aside from the fact that many envision him as a prolific wide forward over the long term, rather than a line-leading marksman.
Bizarre thread
Peak Rvp was an absolute monster though. Peak Haaland is above Lewa for me.
So after one game , Greenwood was brilliant but Haaland was a monster.
Again, Greenwood was kind of playing his first game as Striker after a long time. Really looking forward to their contributions this season.
Again, Greenwood was kind of playing his first game as Striker after a long time. Really looking forward to their contributions this season.
Cant really vote in this one, because I don't think getting Haaland will hinder Greenwood's development.
Modern football fans seem way more invested in the notion of a first XI rather than a squad these days, which is odd because we've got perfect and very recent examples in our own club of how having sub par depth can hinder you over a course of a season.
If we can get Haaland we obviously can't decide not to, and i see no reason why any 3 of Sancho, Haaland, Greenwood & Rashford as a forward line won't be the envy of world football
Modern football fans seem way more invested in the notion of a first XI rather than a squad these days, which is odd because we've got perfect and very recent examples in our own club of how having sub par depth can hinder you over a course of a season.
If we can get Haaland we obviously can't decide not to, and i see no reason why any 3 of Sancho, Haaland, Greenwood & Rashford as a forward line won't be the envy of world football
Saka vs Mbappe next!
I have been so impressed with Greenwood’s all round play, that I don’t think we should make a decision on Haaland until the end of the season…..we have Sancho, Rashford and Greenwood with Martial, Cavani and James….that’s two for every position without talking about Diallo, Elanga etc….no need to rush into buying anymore stars….let’s see who is hungry enough from the crop we have.
Not voting on the poll as I don't agree with the options.
We should sing Halaand. It won't hinder Masons development imo
We should sing Halaand. It won't hinder Masons development imo
Greenwood is our player. Haaland is not. So Greenwood is better until Haaland puts red shirt on . Jokes aside, I think right now Haaland is ahead - he is already superstar. Greenwood is superstar in making - almost there but needs maybe another year.
. Jokes aside, I think right now Haaland is ahead - he is already superstar. Greenwood is superstar in making - almost there but needs maybe another year.There's no reason why both can't play together.
What kind of poll is that, if you don't have any answers in between? If Haaland comes Greenwood can switch to play on the flanks, play with him up top, or even play behind the striker.. Yes could hinder his development a bit but could catapult him into showing his absolute best to get over him...
For the record, Haaland is the stats people favourite, Mason is mine, higher potential, that doesn't mean we should buy the second best(or first best young striker in the world) to play them together..After Cavani and Martial leave, there's a space in the squad and even more competition providing us with incredbile depth.
For the record, Haaland is the stats people favourite, Mason is mine, higher potential, that doesn't mean we should buy the second best(or first best young striker in the world) to play them together..After Cavani and Martial leave, there's a space in the squad and even more competition providing us with incredbile depth.
Having both would be unbelievable. For me, Håland is the most special thing there has been for a long time and if we have the slightest chance to get him, we should.
I don’t understand the obsession over Greenwood’s position, Salah always scores a gazillion goals and he hardly plays as the most central attacker. Greenwood is a super versatile player and signing a more natural CF should not ruin his development.
I don’t understand the obsession over Greenwood’s position, Salah always scores a gazillion goals and he hardly plays as the most central attacker. Greenwood is a super versatile player and signing a more natural CF should not ruin his development.
All I ask people to do is imagine Greenwood was at another club, everything else was exactly the same from his number of goals to the goals he scored, and we were able to sign him… would people not be very excited to sign him?
Well we don’t have to spunk £80–£120m on him because he’s from our academy and we’ll have the pleasure of seeing a wonder kid becoming a world class
Well we don’t have to spunk £80–£120m on him because he’s from our academy and we’ll have the pleasure of seeing a wonder kid becoming a world class
This shouldn't be a poll right now. But I really don't see us actually getting Haaland. Partially due to this and Raiola being his agent. Even if we bid, I don't think we have the level of desperation a Madrid or City would have to get him. Adding to that, his asking wage doesn't fit our wage bill and in truth I won't want it to. Look at what overpriced wages have done to the two Spanish clubs, Haaland is good, but not worth it. There is every chance he never becomes as goof as Lewandowski , which isn't to say that its not good, but that's not Neymar level of talent (I'm not even going to mention the two aliens). If he came in at 300k that would be fine. The problem with anything higher than that is players like Bruno ( who have been extraordinary) will start to demand wages at that level...we simply aren't that type of club.
I don't think it's between Greenwood and Haaland for a single spot. Both can play in the same team very well. If anyone loses from us signing Haaland it would probably be Martial. I can see us being very successful in the next 5-6 years with Rashford, Greenwood, Sancho and Haaland alternating for the front 3 positions with Bruno behind them.
The only issue I have with Haaland is his agent, however if we sign him for a low fee (as his release clause is reported) for a 5+1 year contract and he leaves after 4-5 years for Madrid for double the fee it's not such a huge problem. Hopefully we can win some PL/CL titles in those 4-5 years and then profit from the sale, it's a win-win.
The only issue I have with Haaland is his agent, however if we sign him for a low fee (as his release clause is reported) for a 5+1 year contract and he leaves after 4-5 years for Madrid for double the fee it's not such a huge problem. Hopefully we can win some PL/CL titles in those 4-5 years and then profit from the sale, it's a win-win.
If he was at a different club, he would probably not be nearly as hyped tbh.
Haaland is further along in terms of physicality and development, which you'd expect from a lad who is more than a year older, and built stronger than Greenwood is.
He's also playing week in, week out in a league that is more accommodating to younger players, still finding their way. He's done it in the CL as well, which again speaks to his physique, as well as the confidence he gains from banging them in in the Bundesliga ever weekend.
I don't look at the two of them and think Haaland is necessarily the more natural finisher though. He's a top class in that department no doubt, but Greenwood is as natural a finisher as you'll ever see as well.
He was always likely to take a little longer to develop than a player with Haaland's build, but I think this time next year there will be far more meat to this discussion than there is this summer.
I'd also back a player with Greenwood's build to play at a higher level for longer into his 30's than a Haaland as well.
They're both top class talents and have huge futures ahead of them. Haaland is well ahead now, but the idea that he will always be is very premature for me. I remember being called an idiot by fellow United fans for suggesting Ronaldo would end up the bigger talent than Rooney when he was first making his mark.
Physical development plays a huge part of how good players look in their late teens.
He's also playing week in, week out in a league that is more accommodating to younger players, still finding their way. He's done it in the CL as well, which again speaks to his physique, as well as the confidence he gains from banging them in in the Bundesliga ever weekend.
I don't look at the two of them and think Haaland is necessarily the more natural finisher though. He's a top class in that department no doubt, but Greenwood is as natural a finisher as you'll ever see as well.
He was always likely to take a little longer to develop than a player with Haaland's build, but I think this time next year there will be far more meat to this discussion than there is this summer.
I'd also back a player with Greenwood's build to play at a higher level for longer into his 30's than a Haaland as well.
They're both top class talents and have huge futures ahead of them. Haaland is well ahead now, but the idea that he will always be is very premature for me. I remember being called an idiot by fellow United fans for suggesting Ronaldo would end up the bigger talent than Rooney when he was first making his mark.
Physical development plays a huge part of how good players look in their late teens.
We'll just be a stepping stone for Haaland. So Greenwood, providing he still develops as he gets older is our long term solution
Well, no one can stand toe to toe with Haaland's numbers at the moment. 93 games and 95 goals in all competitions since his debut for RB Salzburg. 20 of those goals coming in 18 CL games and he's just 21. Power, speed, strength. Amazing player.
But don't be writing off Greenwood. I see special talent in this kid. I think this season we'll see a lot of good things from him.
But don't be writing off Greenwood. I see special talent in this kid. I think this season we'll see a lot of good things from him.
Tough one. Don't think I'd like Greenwood to be negatively affected by signing Haaland, but Haaland is quality. How many of his goals last season where assists from Sancho? Big loss that, might affect his numbers this year, not going by the start he's had, but over the season. There's always the question about the strength in depth of Premier League clubs vs Bundesliga clubs. It's a bit like playing golf, each hole has a difficulty index, football is a bit like that. In that regard comparing the numbers isn't apples for apples, but there's no doubt today Haaland is a better forward.
This is nonsense. If we are winning CLs and Title we won't be. If we aren't we will be.
Nothing wrong with that.
Sure maybe even if we where winning he'd move on after 5 years but again nothing wrong with that. Rather have him and win some stuff than not have him.
This thought that you shouldn't buy a player because they might leave is ridiculous. As long as we are smart worst case we'd make a profit!
To compete with City long term it's better to have Both!
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