Think you're assessing his performances too much on the games against United. His performances in big games are fairly solid, and his record against the top 6 is pretty good. If I remember correctly the two clubs which most of his goals have come against are Leicester and Arsenal.
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Think you're assessing his performances too much on the games against United. His performances in big games are fairly solid, and his record against the top 6 is pretty good. If I remember correctly the two clubs which most of his goals have come against are Leicester and Arsenal.
Maybe, it’s way too early to say..He needs to improve a lot to get to that level. He is young but he’s way behind what the likes of Mbappe & Haaland were at the age. It’s basically unknown right now how high his ceiling is & when he will peak. We’ve seen strikers like Lewandowski & Kane show less at Greenwood’s age & end up world class. It’s too hard to say right now.
Might have gone under the radar but since a short while back, Laporte is playing for the Spanish team, not the French national team. Started all 3 games in Euros so far and scored a goal yesteday!
I know. Was responding to a guy who asked why he didn't get the chance for France
I can see him declining massively
Mason will need to nail down a position before I consider him a future world XI star. we still using him as a RWF
"big 6" record as of January
And here are the top 6 goalscorers:
- Jamie Vardy (Leicester) - 37
- Eden Hazard (Chelsea, Real Madrid) - 29
- Cristiano Ronaldo (Manchester United, Real Madrid, Juventus) - 28
- Leo Messi (Barcelona) - 26
- Harry Kane (Tottenham) - 26
- Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (Arsenal) - 18
I was including Leicester instead of Tottenham because of him being at Spurs. He loves playing the foxes.
Vardy’s record is incredible but unsurprising.
Surprised Aguero was not there but hazard. Hazard one hell of the game raiser if he wanted to.
Ah, got it. Just thought it was worth mentioning since several posts have been mentioning the fact the Laporte haven't yet played for France in Euro. Just picked your post as one of them to reply to.
Unpopular opinion: I think Harry Kane is a bit overrated among people who views him as a top 3 striker in the world. I've noticed how some even argues Kane is the world's best striker ahead of Lewandowski, which is obviously a ridiculous claim. At this point, Kane is just living off his past reputation. There's many strikers who are better finishers than Kane while playing fewer minutes.
2020-21 league season
- Robert Lewandowski: 41 goals (32.08 expected goals) while playing 2467 minutes
- André Silva: 28 goals (25.60 xG) while playing 2787 minutes
- Erling Haaland: 27 goals (23.60 xG) while playing 2416 minutes
- Cristiano Ronaldo: 29 goals (29.84 xG) while playing 2807 minutes
- Romelu Lukaku: 24 goals (23.43 xG) while playing 2885 minutes
- Gerard Moreno: 23 goals (19.53 xG) while playing 2680 minutes
- Karim Benzema: 23 goals (19.45 xG) while playing 2914 minutes
- Harry Kane: 23 goals (22.17 xG) while playing 3097 minutes
And before anyone brings up Kane's 14 assists, he was playing with a phenomenal finisher in Son Heung-Min. He made 17 despite an xG of 11.02.
I'm sure Kane wouldn't get anywhere near same amount of assists if he played with a terrible finisher up-front. Like Vinicius Jr, Werner etc.
2020-21 league season
- Robert Lewandowski: 41 goals (32.08 expected goals) while playing 2467 minutes
- André Silva: 28 goals (25.60 xG) while playing 2787 minutes
- Erling Haaland: 27 goals (23.60 xG) while playing 2416 minutes
- Cristiano Ronaldo: 29 goals (29.84 xG) while playing 2807 minutes
- Romelu Lukaku: 24 goals (23.43 xG) while playing 2885 minutes
- Gerard Moreno: 23 goals (19.53 xG) while playing 2680 minutes
- Karim Benzema: 23 goals (19.45 xG) while playing 2914 minutes
- Harry Kane: 23 goals (22.17 xG) while playing 3097 minutes
And before anyone brings up Kane's 14 assists, he was playing with a phenomenal finisher in Son Heung-Min. He made 17 despite an xG of 11.02.
I'm sure Kane wouldn't get anywhere near same amount of assists if he played with a terrible finisher up-front. Like Vinicius Jr, Werner etc.
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I think Kane looks a carthorse as often as he looks "world class", but your stats are woefully ignoring the fact he's playing for a duff team in Tottenham, whereas all of the others you list play for one of, if not the best team in their league.
He will score goals but he looks very sluggish compared to three years ago.
Spending £120m on him is a risk only an oil club can take.
Spending £120m on him is a risk only an oil club can take.
Eh, teammates has nothing to do with someone's level of finishing.
The guy has quoted the goals those players scored. How many more chances would he get and thus score in better teams?
I hate Kane but he had the best minutes per goal ratio in the premier league only behind Bale(barely played) and Ihaenacho. I'm not sure how you can claim that doesn't put him in with the best in the world.
Kane can't go he wouldn't want to disappoint Nuno Holy Spirit. Not looking good for him, City will need to cough up a huge sums to price him away.
It's unfair to compare Kane with Vinicius or Werner. They're both players with good athleticism but poor finishing. Kane basically has poor athleticism but good finishing.
Kane's basically got incredible shooting technique, great passing and movement, and really good understanding with the spurs attackers. He's not fast but is used to finding space at the edge of the box/just inside the box because of how quick Spurs are on the break.
I'm not sure he deals with pressure that well - for a striker with such a big reputation, he doesn't score that many vital goals in big games against big teams. He's also got a system built around him at Spurs. He's a slow starter, he has at least one injury per season, and he needs to play in certain positions with certain types of players around him.
All of that is to say that he's still clearly a great player, but I don't think he's as certain a success at City/his next club as lots of people assume. I'd easily prefer Haaland.
If he goes to city he will be an absolute beast IMO and score bags of goals every season because they are utterly dominant in most/ all games. Compared to Tottenham it will be like playing training gamed for him... however, this is also the same story for every striker in the world that can finish. They would all do very well for city. Kane has many failings and I’m afraid these are all too clear when England play especially at these euros where he just doesn’t look like scoring OR doing anything to help the team. When he’s not on the ball it’s not like he’s good at getting it back, marking, or creative play (not really). In summary he’s not worth the money Tottenham will demand for the move.. IMO I have no idea why you would get Kane over haaland but there you go. The age thing along is enough.
Get the feeling Kane will stay at Spurs for 12 more months and just live off the glory if England win the euros, less desperate to move if he's actually got a major trophy even if it's not at club level.
Two years left on his deal and then surely some sort of deal would be agreed.
Imagine him winning more with England than at club level, only Spurs.
Two years left on his deal and then surely some sort of deal would be agreed.
Imagine him winning more with England than at club level, only Spurs.
The moment that changed Harry’s tournament.
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Worked for Gordon Banks and George CohenGet the feeling Kane will stay at Spurs for 12 more months and just live off the glory if England win the euros, less desperate to move if he's actually got a major trophy even if it's not at club level.
Two years left on his deal and then surely some sort of deal would be agreed.
Imagine him winning more with England than at club level, only Spurs.
I was slagging him off earlier in the tournament. Fair play, can admit that it does look like it was mostly a confidence issue.
Or Ukraine is just not that good.
Bit of both. You gotta be in the positions to score or miss. Earlier in the competition Kane looked sluggish, wasn't arriving in the box at the right moments, was taking snap shots. Looks more likely to take a chance now than a few weeks ago.
That goal vs Germany was huge. It seemed to transform him and its perfect timing for England.
The moment that changed Harry’s tournament.
I wouldn't be so sure Kane would be a hit at City.
In the past, we have seen some strikers signed by english clubs for a huge amount of money and it didn't turn out so well. Sometimes the price tag can increase the pressure.
Obviously each player has their own way of dealing with things mentally. But in general, a couple of failed big money signings come to mind.
In the past, we have seen some strikers signed by english clubs for a huge amount of money and it didn't turn out so well. Sometimes the price tag can increase the pressure.
Obviously each player has their own way of dealing with things mentally. But in general, a couple of failed big money signings come to mind.
That was the ghost of Euros future, showing him what Euro 2024 would be like for him.The moment that changed Harry’s tournament.
Scared him into action.
Wouldn't get too excited by anything seen tonight. Arguably the worst defence in tournament and collapsed completely for second half. As close to a training match as is possible in an international tournament.
Will probably score against Denmark too, but if Italy make the final he might benefit from the confidence building ties leading to it
Will probably score against Denmark too, but if Italy make the final he might benefit from the confidence building ties leading to it
He just got Scrooged.
The moment that changed Harry’s tournament.
I think he’s still in the excitement and adrenaline of being in the tournament with England. Once that’s over, he goes back to Spurs and will realise again how bleak it is over there at the club. Don’t think he fancies so much playing under Nuno
He won't move after winning the Euros with England.
He doesn't exactly have his pick of clubs that can afford him, its either City or Chelsea.
Genuinely think us winning the Euros could be the best thing for Spurs.
Or him winning the euros sets up a huge addiction to trophies and he has to join city to chase that high?
Agree with this. The Euros will sate his appetite for trophies, he will have won something and be an England legend forever.
He'll be happy picking up a golden boot or two at Spurs then.
He sounds thrilled at the prospect
I have doubts too. He's obviously a very good striker and would score buckets of goals for City, against teams they already score buckets of goals against. He's a great finisher but he's not somebody that's going to work to create openings, he needs to ball delivered to him in a place where he can fashion a shot. That doesn't happen often against top defenders. I don't see him being the player who makes the difference in the biggest games for them aka he's not going to win them the Champions League.
This below is a great summary of him as a player imo. His solid top 6 record is bumped up by Arsenal and Leicester, teams hardly known for their stellar defences. It's a long time ago and no detailed stats exist for it, but i felt much the same about Shearer. I think our history would be a lot different had we signed him instead of Cantona.
The more likely scenario is he loses to the much more superior team in Italy, which will give him flashbacks of that League Cup final vs City, and he’s going to want to leave even more.
Or better still, England lose to Denmark which will have a Dinamo Zagreb in the EL feel to it, and will add salt to the Spurs wounds he’s endured over the years.
Or better still, England lose to Denmark which will have a Dinamo Zagreb in the EL feel to it, and will add salt to the Spurs wounds he’s endured over the years.