Every time he opens his mouth I facepalm. Not a winner. Not a leader..
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It's definitely tactical.
Are you confusing me with another poster? I'm well aware we drew, I'm not having a fit on a forum because West Brom 'almost' scored a goal that wouldn't have counted.
Refs clearly have to wait to whistle until seeing if the ball goes in the net, otherwise we have the situation where goals can never be given even if the ref made a complete howler in awarding a free kick. Of course, they aren’t going to do that if it’s something on the halfway line but if, as here, it’s a player through on a 1 to 1, he’s right to delay. He’d then have called it back for the foul and let VAR check it. Exactly the same as it works with offsides. It would make no sense for them to do anything else as VAR could then only disallow goals not correct wrong decisions by the refs.
Agreed, he can drive forward in that left channel and give us an overload on that side, which is what led to the goal. There were multiple occasions when doing so gave us a good position. I’d imagine it would work even better if we had a left forward who was in better form than Martial, as it felt like it was only Maguire and Shaw actually involved, with Martial acting as a decoy.
This is true...VAR doesn't seem to care when we get fouled. Only when we do the fouling. Case in point, the blatant foul on Maguire that should have been a penalty yesterday...
I heard someone say that the ref told him it would have been called off. I have absolutely nothing to back that up though...
Did VAR drop a meter beyond his teammates playing Everton onside in the last minute at OT last week?
Where were his post match comments then?
Where were his post match comments then?
They where busy blaming De Gea for everything.
Because, sadly, he is a better footballer than our actual midfielders, Fred and McTominay.
Are you sure you're not having a fit because you do seem delirious
Do you perhaps have multiple personalities? If not, its you mf
When one of the most common defenses of Harry Maguire is “ well he’s better than Lindelof” that’s when you know you’ve fecked up.
That fact Maguire has been signed and we are still requiring more quality at centre half is enough of a sign that indicates his limited influence.
Certainly don't think he's a bad defender, he's just not good enough for the level we need to compete at for this club to not even win anything but be competitive. We will either need an outstanding defender who ticks every box to play alongside Harry to nullify his weaknesses or we will need two solid defenders with one of the two rotating.
Certainly don't think he's a bad defender, he's just not good enough for the level we need to compete at for this club to not even win anything but be competitive. We will either need an outstanding defender who ticks every box to play alongside Harry to nullify his weaknesses or we will need two solid defenders with one of the two rotating.
Look at the size of him. It should take a lot more to knock him than it did. If he wanted to stay on his feet he could have IMO.
I’m trying to think back since the prem started and I think maguire would stand well against most of our CBS in a one on one comparison. I can only think of 2 that I would say were markedly better and they are the only two who can be paired with anyone and they didnt need to be paired with a specific type of CB. Maguire is an excellent CB, wanted him here for years when teams started just lumping balls in our box from anywhere and mayhem ensued.
He’d lose out to Ferdinand, Vidic, Stam, Bruce and Pallister for starters. I’d take an injury free Ronnie Johnson over him any day of the week too. Chris Smalling too.
Anyone that would take Smalling over him Is a moron to be honest. Become popular to hate him at the moment.
Smalling isn't any better. They're all fecking donkeys!!!
If you’re right it means he’s been diving two games in a row. A diving CB as captain, not sending good signals.
Smalling is a better defender than Maguire. Neither are in the bracket of the CBs listed above but Smalling actually performed defensively in key games & won things [he also stank the place out in multiple games] whilst Maguire made a few marauding runs against West Brom.
The 2 are often compared because the differences aren’t particularly noticeable overall & Maguire was a direct replacement. Maguire looks better on the ball but as far as defending goes he isn’t Smalling [damning praise/criticism].
Neither are/were good enough.
I just think Maguire is miles better than Smalling ever was. He’s incredibly underrated.
But you’re a moron.
I don’t think so, the only two I see as better are the big Dutchman and Rio. Pally was great but had some horrendous games and had a bad habit of air kicking crosses he was trying to knock into the stands.
stevie Bruce had zero speed and relied on Irwin, Parker and pally to get him out of trouble when he got caught flat footed.
manja,Torres loves manja for a reason as did many speedy players. Manja needed legs around him.
Chris smalling , you’re having a laugh, shouldn’t be on the list
Stam and Rio, class
He’s as good as Vidic? Dear God.
Did you ever watch manja without legs around him? Maguire is definitely in manja territory, manja was a lot braver
Yes, and he was comfortably a better defender. And quicker than Maguire too. I assume this is a piss take? You don’t seriously believe that do you?
Smalling in 2015-2016 is better than any version of Harry Maguire.
U think manja was quicker than Maguire? I dunno. He was pretty slow was manja. Don’t get me wrong, I love manja but I just see that way.
For thinking Maguire is better than Smalling
He isntFor thinking Maguire is better than Smalling
Smalling could barely pass a football. Easily one of the least technical players I’ve ever seen. He wasn’t shocking but he’s pretty much the definition of bang average. Maguire is a genuinely top player who’d his why he’s England captain and was signed for £80 million. That’s after he’s impressed and worked his way up at every club he’s played for. Good player, great mentality too.
Maguire is miles better than Smalling. Sorry but no one can say with a straight face it’s even close.
Jesus, Maguire might be the most underrated player in the league. Our fan base is so toxic.
Pretty much can’t argue with any of this (we may have overpaid but in today’s market most players are overpriced)
Innit, so hyperbolic
He’s a good player and was good at the weekend to be fair to him (par the silly moment at the back, although he did look like he got fouled). He needs a pacy partner in my opinion.
That’s exactly it. CEntre backs play in partnerships, I’d know I’ve played the position for years. You need a player to compliment one another. More than anything I think we need a new keeper even if we had Van Dyke we would be handicapped.Innit, so hyperbolic
He’s a good player and was good at the weekend to be fair to him (par the silly moment at the back, although he did look like he got fouled). He needs a pacy partner in my opinion.
No. Just for being a moron.For thinking Maguire is better than Smalling
Yes. He didn’t turn like an oil tanker for one. Pace is one small part of being a defender. And Vidic was better at every part of it.
He certainly improved after his debut
One things for certain Smalling is far more defensively sound than Maguire. He's just so absymal in possession it's hard to justify his selection with the modern requirement of a centre half duty considering they build the phases of play. When you consider how poorly coached we are as a collective throughout the team adding Smalling to Solskjaer's management would certainly be an accident waiting to happen.
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