Highest football wage bills in Europe. United are 7th

[meamth]

How the feck Juve can pay that much wages with smaller stadium, fanbase, and tv money??

 

[RedRonaldo]

Are you guys even sure these numbers are somewhat accurate and used in the right context?

I mean, with Frenkie de Jong I remember the reports that Nike is paying a big part of his Barcelona/club salary as a part of the individual sponsorship he has with them, and the fact that Barca as a club is also Nike sponsored.

Opposed to say the more traditional construction where players who get their salary at a Puma sponsored club like Arsenal, and then sign a personal deal and play on Adidas shoes for 5 million a year on top of that, in that situation the personal sponsorship wouldn't be referred to as wages/club salary.

"The sources said Nike was not contributing to the transfer fee but investing a "very important amount of money" in wages. Executives believe the 21-year-old's achievements during his time at Barcelona will see the return exceed the investment." They also wanted him to play with 'Frenkie' on the back of his shirt because of this, but he wasn't interested in that.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-...-after-nike-agreed-to-subsidise-wages-sources


On top of that most Dutch reports at the time put him on a 10-12 million EURO base salary before bonuses, which is like 200-250k EURO per week. Yet people in this thread are claiming he's on 400k POUNDS STERLING, which would be like 440k euro/week which is something completely different.

Maybe it’s 200-250k before tax? You know the difference between before and after is double.

 

[Amarsdd]

Barcelona and Real Madrid include all sports sections into the wage bill, so men and women's football, basketball, handball, futsal, etc

Barcelona spend a shit ton of money on their basketball team for a european club

Yeah, but still in total their wage bill to turnover ratio is something crazy like 80%?

 

[Number32]

You don't publish your player's wages (I'm 95% sure, if you have seen otherwise, happy to be proved wrong as it's interesting to see!).

I agree they don't publish their player's wage, but they can't hide it either. The survey is valid or the club will face a huge problem with taxes.
Parma had tried to trick their player's wage information several years ago and they got busted.

 

[duffer]

I agree they don't publish their player's wage, but they can't hide it either. The survey is valid or the club will face a huge problem with taxes.
Parma had tried to trick their player's wage information several years ago and they got busted.

What does an anonymous survey have to do with taxes?

 

[Zen86]

I am awaiting some City ex players to come out, my bet would be Yaya Toure... Or Carlos Tevez, Balotelli...

Maybe one day if any of them hit the rocks, they’ll all be locked up with NDAs though.

 

[Cal?]

I agree. Football has gone mad. I can remember being amazed to hear Van Basten was on 30K a week back around 1990.

Back in 1990, the richest man in the world was the Sultan of Brunei, he was worth about $20b.

Bezos is worth about $200b now.

 

[The Brown Bull]

Back in 1990, the richest man in the world was the Sultan of Brunei, he was worth about $20b.

Bezos is worth about $200b now.

Which is an obscenity to my way of thinking.
My point about Van Basten was that 30K a week was massive pay then. A mate of mine was friendly with a first teamer at Arsenal who was on 2 grand a week at the time for example.
Van Basten was great though. Twice the player Griezeman is.

 

[Cal?]

Which is an obscenity to my way of thinking.
My point about Van Basten was that 30K a week was massive pay then. A mate of mine was friendly with a first teamer at Arsenal who was on 2 grand a week at the time for example.
Van Basten was great though. Twice the player Griezeman is.

30 years worth of inflation, 10+ years of QE, added to the football boom, I'm not surprised that the top players now are being paid 10-20 times Van Basten was.

Completely agree that Griezmann is obscenely overpaid (if that 880k/week is accurate).

Whether that's obscene is another detabe for another time, personally think Ronaldo deserves his 50m a year salary more than some movie stars who get as much for making one movie.

 

[giorno]

Griezmann wasn't going to barcelona to take a pay cut

 

[Cheech Wizard]

Means nothing. If the players feel they deserve more money then they either get a pay rise or it risks affecting their performance.

Yeah well I hear no one wanting out yet so hit me up when they do.

 

[Ali Dia]

I’m so glad we didn’t go for greizmann and his stupid contract is someone else’s problem. Hes obviously not a bad player but I’d say even he’s shocked he’s getting paid that much!

 

[pacifictheme]

Yeah well I hear no one wanting out yet so hit me up when they do.

Don't be so insecure. I mean in general.

 

[Red00012]

Yet all the talk is about Utd wages.

Obsessed

 

[Number32]

What does an anonymous survey have to do with taxes?

If you lied on that survey, and the tax collector knew it, it will be a fraud.
When your answer was lower than the actual wages, the club will have a problem with FFP, but when your answer was higher, then the tax collector's integrity will be questioned.

It's not anonymous though

Our work has included this for the Premier League (https://issuu.com/markdavieslcfc/docs/
sportcal_premier_league_in_numbers_) and this for La Liga (https://www.laliga.es/en/news/
sportcal); and two projects for Lloyd’s of London that correctly predicted the World Cup winners
in 2014 and 2018, most recently here (https://www.lloyds.com/news-and-risk-insight/press-
releases/2018/06/dream-team); and collabotration with JLT on their injury index (https://www.
jltspecialty.com/our-insights/thought-leadership/sport-media-and-entertainment/football-
injury-analysis); and research projects with organisations including America’s Cup, ESPN The
Magazine and the EFL among others; private clients include individuals and their legal firms
seeking expertise for cases involving quantum claims for loss of earnings. By their nature these
latter cases are often secret, never disclosed, even when settled. Sportingintelligence clients
have settled individual quantum claims for more than £4m on multiple occasions.

 

[duffer]

If you lied on that survey, and the tax collector knew it, it will be a fraud.
When your answer was lower than the actual wages, the club will have a problem with FFP, but when your answer was higher, then the tax collector's integrity will be questioned.

It's not anonymous though

If I tell you my salary is £100,000 on this website, the taxman wont give a shit,
same as that survey. They know what I earn.

FFP and the UK treasury don't collate their data from that survey, that's a ridiculous notion.

 

[TheReligion]

Great to see United well down on that list and in and amongst the other PL clubs bar City.

 

[Number32]

If I tell you my salary is £100,000 on this website, the taxman wont give a shit,
same as that survey. They know what I earn.

FFP and the UK treasury don't collate their data from that survey, that's a ridiculous notion.

That's why I said "being questioned", not to collect the data from that survey. Anyone would dig into the data and could brought into legal action if there was fraud, so better not to take a risk. It's a public research, not just a garbage news.

If your actual salary on their data is £80,000, of course the tax collectors will haunt you for another questions. Why did you lied? Is there any bonuses or another income that they missed? They are very sceptical and won't lose any penny mate, that's their job.

 

[Crustanoid]

How much impact have the idiotic contract extensions for Jones, Mata etc, keeping Lingaard and Rojo on the books, and paying the equivalent of a small island state's GDP to Sanchez had on this calculation?

 

[Siorac]

Back in 1990, the richest man in the world was the Sultan of Brunei, he was worth about $20b.

Bezos is worth about $200b now.

Meanwhile, in the developed world, the purchasing power of the middle and lower classes remained stagnant or even declined a bit.

Guillotine production should become a huge business soon.

 

[Acrobat7]

How the feck Juve can pay that much wages with smaller stadium, fanbase, and tv money??

Owned by Fiat and low taxes for foreigners.

 

[giorno]

Owned by Fiat and low taxes for foreigners.

Owned by the same owners of FCA, and the low taxes on foreigners are a very new thing

They simply follow the barcelona model of paying their players a very significant % of their revenue. They've been operating at a loss for nearly every season of the last decade

 

[Acrobat7]

Owned by the same owners of FCA, and the low taxes on foreigners are a very new thing

They simply follow the barcelona model of paying their players a very significant % of their revenue. They've been operating at a loss for nearly every season of the last decade

Yeah, admittedly „owned by Fiat“ was me being laconic. But it helps to have a billionaire owner when you constantly operate at a loss. And the tax law allows the league to attract foreigners. It is no coincidence, that the Ronaldos, Ramseys et al. are flogging there more and more.

 

[Cal?]

Meanwhile, in the developed world, the purchasing power of the middle and lower classes remained stagnant or even declined a bit.

Guillotine production should become a huge business soon.

The world has more sophisticated ways for that now, eg coronavirus

 

[Andycoleno9]

I thought that Klopp didn't spend anything on transfers and salaries. I mean he said that he will resign from football before doing that...i am confused now