Feck him. He's a wuss.
How about Laurent Blanc?
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Why? Mourinho obviously isn't the ONLY manager for this club.
I've just realised you didn't mean LVG as a good example alongside Poch. The way I read it made the whole thing not make much sense and sounded like a sarcy ending.
So in reply to what you actually meant (I think) - I don't reckon we can take any risk with an unfancied manager of any sort now. I'd argue that LVG also fell into this category (less so than Moyes, but still not exactly in the highest tier) and we've made a mess of it twice now.
He would definitely show them doors to Champions League experience, not other way around.
Show me his managerial title winning credentials please.
No.
Bring in Jose and get on with the business of winning trophies again. It's really that simple.
Bring in Jose and get on with the business of winning trophies again. It's really that simple.
Must be a wind up.
Blanc is in a monopoly league, near enough unlimited resources, able to rest players as they win the league by Christmas every year. Glen Roeder would win the league with PSG.
He has done well with every team he has coached and he has coached more than PSG. He was very good with Bordeaux and in his career he has got one of the highest win% as a manager.
So much hyperbole.
You do realise he won the league with bordeaux which at the time considering what had been going on with them was pretty impressive. In the city game he was missing a few key players and had to set up differently from normal. Did you ever watch his French National team when they played? They played some pretty decent football to watch.
Yh I wikipedia'd him as well to check I wasn't missing anything - I'm not saying he is a terrible manager but I don't think he has done anything to warrant being considered for United. We should, despite our recent woes be going for the best of the best.
Any followers of ligue 1 feel free to correct but as I understand it....When Lyon's dominance faded, in the four years before PSG took over there were four different winners. Bordeaux (big club in France), Marseille (big club in France), Lille and Montpellier. Not sure why Blanc winning with Bordeaux is so highly thought of - Montpellier winning is much more impressive for me. He then had an ok stint with the national team and came back to take over PSG in a privileged seat. Couple this with the reports of players basically saying/doing what they want and still starting and I'm not convinced.
We need to get past thinking that being a former United player is relevant.
No. Not good enough. Also he's a misogynist.
Bordeaux are an historical club but they are not big, Lyon and Marseille were very strong at the time. Lille, Marseille and Bordeaux won because they had excellent coaches and played really well, it wasn't because of Lyon being not good and Lyon only faded around 2011.
Euro 2012: ridiculous untested tactical system against Spain with Debuchy as a 'Right-Winger'
Champions League 2013/14: PSG 3-1 Chelsea 1st leg and then Chelsea 2-0 so PSG out
Champions League 2014/15: very ridiculous performances against Barcelona
Champions League 205/16: very bad performances against City with another never tested tactical system and the introduction in the starting 11 of players in bad shape like Aurier and Van Der Wiel
2013/16: Cavani on the wing
History repeats itself. A lot of PSG fans are aware of all these facts and know PSG can't go further with him in ECL.
A PSG fan is a position to assess him from March of each year.
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Exactly, a limited coach.
@Downcast I don't want Blanc but what you wrote don't mean that he is shit and as a PSG fan you should know that their roster is surprisingly inflexible and lacks depth, I don't know who is in charge of it but he is doing a bad job and making the life of the head coach a nightmare.
Champions League 2013/14: Chelsea were unbeatable at home and PSG are without Ibrahimovic.
Champions League 2014/15: It's Barcelona.
Champions League 205/16: Matuidi, David Luiz, Verratti, Thiago Motta are missing, Aurier comes back from a 2 months ban and Ibrahimovic was shit.
2013/16: Cavani shouldn't have been bought with Ibrahimovic.
Champions League 2013/14: Chelsea were unbeatable at home and PSG are without Ibrahimovic.
Champions League 2014/15: It's Barcelona.
Champions League 205/16: Matuidi, David Luiz, Verratti, Thiago Motta are missing, Aurier comes back from a 2 months ban and Ibrahimovic was shit.
2013/16: Cavani shouldn't have been bought with Ibrahimovic.
Hello @JPRouve
In red, my comments
I don't say he's shit: I just say he can't become a world-class coach like Ancelotti or Simeone.
When it comes to very decisive games, he always makes the bad choices:
- with France against Spain at the 2012 Euro: Debuchy as a midfielder and Menez on the bench (a shame given his performances of that time against Germany and Ukraine)
- with PSG: 3 consecutive eliminations in the QFs of the ECL
- with Bordeaux in his final year: loss against Marseille (final of la Coupe de la Ligue) + knock out by Lyon in the QF of the ECL within 2 weeks
In red, my comments
I don't say he's shit: I just say he can't become a world-class coach like Ancelotti or Simeone.
When it comes to very decisive games, he always makes the bad choices:
- with France against Spain at the 2012 Euro: Debuchy as a midfielder and Menez on the bench (a shame given his performances of that time against Germany and Ukraine)
- with PSG: 3 consecutive eliminations in the QFs of the ECL
- with Bordeaux in his final year: loss against Marseille (final of la Coupe de la Ligue) + knock out by Lyon in the QF of the ECL within 2 weeks
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Being PSG manager is, just now, domestically anyway a "free hit", so Europe is where they are judged, I don't think Blanc has done anything to suggest he is top-class management material.
Hello @JPRouve
I don't say he's shit: I just say he can't become a world-class coach like Ancelotti or Simeone.
But I specifically said shit, because that's what I keep reading and hearing, he is now shit, he made a mistake against City, a mistake provoked by circumstances that he couldn't control, it's bad but it's not the end of the world.
As for the Chelsea game, if PSG can beat Chelsea 3-1, Chelsea can beat PSG 2-0 at home, you guys are seeing yourself prettier than you are which his demonstrated by the fact that you think that PSG should have challenged Barcelona a year where they were flying.
The margin between PSG and the other good teams isn't as big as it is portrayed in France, you need to be at your best to compete against the best and unfortunately for PSG they weren't at their best against City.
You need to remember that City have better players than you.
With Laurent Blanc, PSG can't be at his best to compete against the best.
With or without Blanc that roster can't compete against the best without its best eleven, Blanc isn't the best manager but he isn't the reason behind PSG "difficulties" in Europe.
The same thing can be said about Pellegrini at City.
Let's agree to disagree mate.
Laurent Blanc is paid to "Dream Bigger" and I am of those who think he is no longer the man for the job.
I do think that they should upgrade but they will have to improve the roster too.
I'm not surprised by the negative replies in this thread but I don't agree with many of them either
His teams have - from what I've seen - played attacking, attractive football. He was a huge success at Bordeaux and despite having the best team in France by a distance he has still done well to progress PSG into a solid Champions League team, which isn't easy. Look how terribly LvG has done in Europe this season.
Say what you want about the teams he's managed, but he has been successful. Nobody thinks less of Guardiola as a manager even though his teams have packed far more quality.
Blanc has a United background which means he'll understand some of the traditions of the club and will have build up relationships in his time here. Not something on it's own to hire a manager, no, but a nice bonus.
I can't say for sure, but he strikes me as a loyal individual. I'd expect him to stay at United a lot longer than Mourinho would, assuming they would both be successful.
It's a game of opinions and I respect that not a lot of you will agree with my points and will not want Blanc as our next manager. Personally, I'd rather see him as United manager next season than Mourinho, Giggs or LvG.
His teams have - from what I've seen - played attacking, attractive football. He was a huge success at Bordeaux and despite having the best team in France by a distance he has still done well to progress PSG into a solid Champions League team, which isn't easy. Look how terribly LvG has done in Europe this season.
Say what you want about the teams he's managed, but he has been successful. Nobody thinks less of Guardiola as a manager even though his teams have packed far more quality.
Blanc has a United background which means he'll understand some of the traditions of the club and will have build up relationships in his time here. Not something on it's own to hire a manager, no, but a nice bonus.
I can't say for sure, but he strikes me as a loyal individual. I'd expect him to stay at United a lot longer than Mourinho would, assuming they would both be successful.
It's a game of opinions and I respect that not a lot of you will agree with my points and will not want Blanc as our next manager. Personally, I'd rather see him as United manager next season than Mourinho, Giggs or LvG.
A possible late contender according to info passed to Custis at The Sun. The consensus candidate perhaps.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...th-Ryan-Giggs-being-kept-on-as-assistant.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...th-Ryan-Giggs-being-kept-on-as-assistant.html
Don't want.
No thanks.
We have Jose, who comes with LOADS of experience and titles, waiting for us to give him a green light. Can't see any reason why Blanc should be considered.
No thanks! Plus when is this Giggs thing going to end? Tired of it now. I hope this doesn't hold us back from making good decisions for the club. He can come back once he's proven himself.
Less toxic than Mourinho and perhaps therefore more palatable to certain figures within the club. From reading that piece it also seems he'd be more likely to keep Giggs around, continuing his preparation for the big job and thereby preserving the club's original succession plan.
He wouldn't be my choice, but you can see why it would be tempting.
I honestly think any manager other than Mourinho will have an impossible task as they will always be compared. Eg- we finish 2nd in the league, "if we had Mourinho we would have won it."
Every loss will seem twice as bad and it would take a hell of a lot to win over the fans.
Every loss will seem twice as bad and it would take a hell of a lot to win over the fans.
I strongly recall the PSG chairman saying Blanc will stay with them next season, something he uttered after the French league cup final. So either Custis is making shit up, which is bad - or he's been fed misinformation while he himself hasn't even bothered looking up the situation, which is also very bad.
Some exclusive.
Some exclusive.
Yeah, Al Khelaifi said that Blanc would be their manager next season. He also answered to the criticism and said that in football you win some and lose some, basically PSG don't have a special right to win everything.
I think he's a decent coach but another who wouldn't be in the discussion on merit if he wasn't ex-United. We need to pick the best coach regardless of sentiment - this whole 'gets the club traditions' factor is overrated.
PSG may well want to keep hold of Blanc for another season, that wouldn't mean Custis' info is incorrect (unless you assume United are limited to out-of-work managers as candidates for Van Gaal's possible replacement). Blanc may choose to leave of his own accord to join United, should the job actually be offered.
I know sweet f a about Blanc as a manager. But for me Mourinho is the end-times and while I have more patience for LVG than most, his pathetic comments about doing the best he could with the players at his disposal really took the fecking biscuit... so yeah, hire him. As Pochettino's water-boy.
Forget about ex united and all the mumbo jumbo, answer me this:
1. Why would he want to join united?
2. Is he better than mourinho?
#2 is sufficient
it's really going down to the point where it's ABM (Anyone but mourinho), which is pathetic considering we should be wanting what's best for United.