Nobody on here has made the figures up. Everyone has got their numbers from articles, just like you have. Truth is, none of us really know which one is right.
How excited are you about the World Cup?
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Tainted by corruption and and an undercurrent of actual danger to supporters.
100% there will be headlines where fans fall foul of stupid laws that wouldn't be an issue in a non religion fanatical society. Stupid venue 100% chosen on corrupt deals.
Just can't be bothered with the circus.
But blatter and Platini got paid so hey ho they are happy.
We won't even speak about human rights issues and workers
100% there will be headlines where fans fall foul of stupid laws that wouldn't be an issue in a non religion fanatical society. Stupid venue 100% chosen on corrupt deals.
Just can't be bothered with the circus.
But blatter and Platini got paid so hey ho they are happy.
We won't even speak about human rights issues and workers
Doesn't feel like there's a World Cup coming to me. Really don't give a shit but who knows, maybe I'll get interested when it actually starts.
Absolutely zero.
Me too. I have no interest at all in it. It's tainted.
Got the World Soccer preview yesterday and it has the usual wallchart which my 5 year old will fill in (well its for me as well really I won't lie, kids are great for some things)
I love the World Cup and I do love the 3/4 week build up and wait for it in the summer so it's a bit strange. As a one off though in the winter I don't mind (hosts aside which is a farce).
There will be zero build up until after the Premier League games are over the weekend before but once its on it will be as big and as popular as normal.
Downside is I'm really enjoying watching this current United side so disrupting that is slightly annoying.
I love the World Cup and I do love the 3/4 week build up and wait for it in the summer so it's a bit strange. As a one off though in the winter I don't mind (hosts aside which is a farce).
There will be zero build up until after the Premier League games are over the weekend before but once its on it will be as big and as popular as normal.
Downside is I'm really enjoying watching this current United side so disrupting that is slightly annoying.
Didn't watch 2018, won't be watching this one and 48 teams in the US, who have, I am totally aware a sketchy record when it comes to starting wars? Yeah, no.
Not sure when I'll tune into the next one. Maybe 2030 if it goes to South America, but even then, not sure I can get into a tournament were 3/4ths of the the teams are going to get pummelled.
Not sure when I'll tune into the next one. Maybe 2030 if it goes to South America, but even then, not sure I can get into a tournament were 3/4ths of the the teams are going to get pummelled.
My guess is it will be a World Cup like in Japan/South Korea 2002 with the big nations not really showing up and 2-3 of them won’t even make it through the group stage.
Teams like Croatia and Denmark with some quality but only a few big names might do well, whereas I think many of the players from the big European clubs, will show up tired from a busy autumn and will probably not be too unhappy if they don’t make it to the final, but instead gets 2-3 weeks off before the season starts up again.
Add to that, that the atmosphere at the stadium’s will most likely be pretty dull as no normal people can afford to go, and you have all the ingredients for a disastrous tournament.
Teams like Croatia and Denmark with some quality but only a few big names might do well, whereas I think many of the players from the big European clubs, will show up tired from a busy autumn and will probably not be too unhappy if they don’t make it to the final, but instead gets 2-3 weeks off before the season starts up again.
Add to that, that the atmosphere at the stadium’s will most likely be pretty dull as no normal people can afford to go, and you have all the ingredients for a disastrous tournament.
I'll watch extended highlights of certain matches on YouTube. No more than that.
I'm sure many of those who claim to have no interest will be watching once it actually kicks off
There are legit issues with host nation and its good that there is a spotlight on them to force them to change
I remember there were many complaints about USA94, Japan/Korea 02 and even Russia 18 but still it's elite level football with the best players in the world on show
There are legit issues with host nation and its good that there is a spotlight on them to force them to change
I remember there were many complaints about USA94, Japan/Korea 02 and even Russia 18 but still it's elite level football with the best players in the world on show
International Football is dross. And it has been for a while now.
When I was a kid in the 80s/90s, international football had a certain magic about it.
These days it’s just tedious.
When I was a kid in the 80s/90s, international football had a certain magic about it.
These days it’s just tedious.
So you don't actually know where you got the stat for 3 construction deaths from, but you stated it as fact?
Also which article? And what was their source for the information?
It's just a pity my username isn't bolognese.
meh, feck Qatar.
Can see that happeningOr we can disappoint. Watch us beat Brasil and then lose to Swiss and Cameron. It could happen to us.
like a repeat of 2010 WC in a way.Can already see the headlines of appeals to bring xxx the England supporter home after going missing or being locked up. Kind of dreading the inevitability. Maybe I’m being overly cynical.
Not looking forward to this World Cup at all. It highlights all that is currently wrong with the game, and sport in general.
Bit meh to be honest.
Only clocked it was on so soon because of some advert
Only clocked it was on so soon because of some advert
You're basically calling anyone who ever fought for democracy, for freedom, against slavery, against racism etc. a bloody idiot. Guys who fought against the Nazis must be even bigger idiots since they would had not been only threw in jail like that guy but killed.
No offense but who is the bloody idiot now?
Probably going to be the worst World Cup in history. A country that barely knows what a football looks like along with all the controversy in it.
I’ll be there for the whole group stage so very excited.
Pretty much the CBA choice - but I've felt that way about the last couple of international tournaments, so it's not just the fact it's being held at a stupid time in a stupid place. The last I was properly invested in was Euro 2016.
That said, the match times in Qatar are convenient, so I'll probably end up watching the lot.
That said, the match times in Qatar are convenient, so I'll probably end up watching the lot.
I'm probably in the minority here, but I love the world cup. I'm not a fan of FIFA and their choice of hosts or the circumstances behind it, but I feel the world cup goes beyond those things, at least to me, and I can't wait for it. International football is what I care about the most over club football, which I see more as just a distraction until the next international tournament. There's nothing in club football that gives me more emotion than winning a World cup or a Euro, and I love that even casual or non-football fans get involved when it happens, it definitely feels like a world event compared to most international competitions out there of any sport.
I love the world cup too, my favourite football tournament. The first one I saw was 1970, I watch as many games as possible. Im just struggling to feel enthusiastic for it, maybe once it starts I will click back into my normal mode for it.
You forgot the boycott option !
Not at all. Because my NT is shite and also because I prefer club football over NT football.
Not much. Just interested in Licha, Casemiro+Antony, Eriksen. Interested in a few youngsters like Musiala, Pedri, Tchouameni etc. That's about it
The corrupt decision to hold it in Qatar is ruining it. Idiotic timing, as a result of clearly bullshit decision is only part of it.
I've got my figure from a study, from research that a worldwide labour body has done in order to find out the truth behind the potential fudged figures from the host nation.
It isn't an article.
The deaths are just one thing, the lack of wages being paid to these construction workers, the lack of hotels for fans, the lack of inclusivity for gay people, the lack of human rights in the country, systemic abuse of migrants, all add up to a rather distasteful world cup.
I don't see how anyone can defend those points, points which also haven't come from articles but from independence body's across the world.
I'm much more excited about the resumption of the league on Boxing Day, I love the festive fixtures.
I'm excited but not as I used to be. In part cause I'm older and there's already too much football around as it is, plus world cup in winter in the middle of the season and the fact the atmoposhere will most probably be dead.
Frankly right now it feels mostly like an unwelcome break in the real action. Which is a bit of a surprise. But then this particular tournament has a lot against it. I suppose it will change once the thing gets going.
If we could have your forward line we'd be hot favorites for the World Cup. Deadly.Or we can disappoint. Watch us beat Brasil and then lose to Swiss and Cameron. It could happen to us.
Apart from holding it in countries with questionable foreign policies and human rights issues, the bigger problem is that international football is also suffering from a bloat. Euro 2016 was the last great tournament as it was 16 teams which created a lot more jepody. The WC was been suffering since 98 with the move to 32 (98 was the only tournament that format worked, which was principally down to a number of smaller nations having had some of their better national teams.)
However, now the Euros have virtually half the teams qualify for it, while the World Cup is going to 48 teams. The Euros consequently only puts on quality games from the quarter final stage and the WC is similar as it is too easy to qualify from the groups and half the teams that do qualify aren't great (in the 48 team WC it will be more like 60-70%.)
It is the same with the CL. The move to add more group games and teams is just diluting the product and is more to do with the heads of UEFA and FIFA playing politics to shore up their support in elections (also with added bribes at times) rather than wanting to put on a quality product.
Same.
Will the atmosphere be dead? I genuinely have no idea. Obviously the vibes are horrific, but will the stadiums be dead?
Maybe not dead but certainly artificial. Plus I dont think many fans will go there as in other world cups and if they will they'll have to watch all the time what are they doing in the streets or in the stands so they dont get locked.
What on Earth are you talking about?
The stat for 3 is the stat that is in pretty much every article I’ve seen. Also in the Qatar official reports, and an interview on The Overlap.
Again, stop reading headlines.
It's horrible, 48 team WC and 24 team Euros.
Euros of 16 teams was the best just as CL of 16 teams. They keep dilluting it and making it worse and worse.
It doesn’t mean other people have made up their figures.
It's difficult to be excited about an event built on corruption and lies. Yeah we can just ignore that, pretend it didn't happen, and be ignorant little consumers who jump up and down with excitement and enjoy the show like the willing sheep they want us to be. But nah, I'm fed up of the wealthy getting wealthier on the back of lies and the suffering of others. I'm not excited nor will I make any effort to watch