Ali Dia
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His daughter is an absolute babe
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is colour blind, sort of.Never understood how so many Black Brazilian footballers could be right wing or right wing sympathizers, very weird country.
Yep, same here.Better than R9 for me.
Really all depends on what you're into I suppose.His daughter is an absolute babe
does every topic have to derailed now by politics ?Never understood how so many Black Brazilian footballers could be right wing or right wing sympathizers, very weird country.
Is party famous for being racist or something like that?Never understood how so many Black Brazilian footballers could be right wing or right wing sympathizers, very weird country.
What right wing party isn’t racist?Is party famous for being racist or something like that?
Very true.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is colour blind, sort of.
Sorry on topic, Romario was a special footballer, would argue alongside or above Baggio the best player in the 90’s.does every topic have to derailed now by politics ?
I’ve heard many Brazilians and others in Latin American countries make implications Brazil being a post racial society, laughable, racism is not an import of America and it affects people all over the world even if some are blind to it.It would be so nice if people didn't bring political sickness to every discussion, especially when they don't know shit about the country they're talking about.
"Fascist sympathizer", the kind of shit you have to read.
Also, this stupid racial obsession isn't a thing in Brazil(maybe between some artists or twitter profiles that import this shit from America, but definitely not among people).
World class. Think Aguero type with 3 times the physical durability Only peak R9 and Van Vasten were better cfs in the modern eraHad a long career but much of it in Europe, scored a shit to of goals too
Flat track bully or underrated?
Hear hearIt would be so nice if people didn't bring political sickness to every discussion, especially when they don't know shit about the country they're talking about.
"Fascist sympathizer", the kind of shit you have to read.
Also, this stupid racial obsession isn't a thing in Brazil(maybe between some artists or twitter profiles that import this shit from America, but definitely not among people).
Not every stocky brazilian footballer that had sex on a plane is Romario. Do they all look the same to you?Is this related to Romario or what?
Lot of weird players rated very highly. Laudrup for example.The post Maradona & Pre-Ronaldo/Zidane time frame is a bit of a weird quiet chapter in football.
What made Laudrup a weird player?Lot of weird players rated very highly. Laudrup for example.
If he was juggling balls whilst doing it then yes.Does him having sex on a plane put him above R9 or Dinhino?
He was so good he was weird?What made Laudrup a weird player?
Like, he was great but that era just had players who while good, weren't transcendent across eras.What made Laudrup a weird player?
Definitely underrated. He was a brilliant maverick genius. But not better than Pele. No player has ever been better than Pele. He could do everything that the top guys (Messi, Maradona etc ) could do and also things they couldn't do. And that goes for Romario too, great though he was.Had a long career but much of it in Europe, scored a shit to of goals too
Flat track bully or underrated?
I thought you meant weird like if he he picked his nose excessively or walked around in public wearing robe whilst sporting a pipe and flashed himself to random strangers.Like, he was great but that era just had players who while good, weren't transcendent across eras.
I'm guessing we're talking about roughly 1990-1996 here?Like, he was great but that era just had players who while good, weren't transcendent across eras.
Perfectly written post, thank you.The biggest downfall for Romario from the Western POV, was Ronaldo. Romario, alongside Baggio was the absolute darling of the 90's until around 1996 or so. His performances for Barcelona and Brazil revered and his languid style earning him plaudits. Ronaldo's video game football created a paradigm shift - much like Messi and C.Ronaldo's did a decade later - in that every striker was then viewed through the lens of this comical forward who could run through teams by himself. Ronaldo-mania left every other player in its wake and what was once seen as impressive became a lot less so as the world waited with baited breath to observe Ronaldo's next cartoonish feat.
In Brazil, it's a different story. Romario never lost his standing or had it shifted because of Ronaldo there, and is actually seen as the better of the two by some there as they appreciated the fact he wasn't some superhuman a lot more, and also 'got' him more than a Western audience did. Romario was, and is, a darling of the public in Brazil, more readily, or easily embraced than Ronaldo. Perhaps because Romario spent a lot more time in Brazil in various stages of his career to create that affinity, but also for being his own man, and so cocky and outspoken, as opposed to Ronaldo's relative silence and preference to let his football speak for him. The romance of the pairing was growing on both the home and international stage in 1997, at which point the Ro-Ro show was in full swing, with both playing football that was out of this world, and more importantly, complementary to one another. Scolari robbed the world of what might have been the best strike partnership there has been, and based off how they performed in 1997, it's hard to refute that, especially so, knowing Romario was already a World Cup star, and Ronaldo went on to prove what he could do in the World Cup, in isolation, and outside of his absurd levels at Barcelona.
Romario himself is easily one of the greatest strikers to have lived. Through the modern lens, where Europe and the CL is literally everything, the statement might make less sense, but the only tangible Romario lacks in that sense, is complete and utter non-conformity to the Western ideals - put him on a pitch, and he was golden.
If you're putting together the most elite chain of strikers for the 90's, it goes: Van Basten> Romario>Ronaldo, so Romario is always part and parcel of the history of the greatest strikers of an era.
Dont think you can really compare him with Messi as a different position and Cristiano Ronaldo spent a lot of his career ot wide too. Wold agree he wasnt on the level of ROnaldo of Brazil but then again we didnt see enough of him in Europe. His partnership with Stocihkov was so short lived but one of the best I have seen.He may be a bit underrated when talking about the very best ever, probably because his peak was relatively short, but he was absolutely not better than peak R9. I don't even know how that can be argued, other than under some very, very subjective stylistic/aesthetic preferences. Peak R9 was Messi/CR tier and Romario never was.
It would have been a partnership of Ronaldo and Romario as Brazil played a 4222 shape. It’s one of the great ‘what if?’s had that duo had the opportunity to unleash their football on a World Cup. In 1997 they tore everyone to shreds.How much would he really have played as Bebeto and Edmundo were in that squad and were mainly backups given Ronaldo's status and ability.
From what I remember Romario being overlooked in 2002 was more questionable although it was forgotten when Brazil lifted the World cup.
Simply a great goalscorer, would effortlessly round the keeper so often when through on goal which you don't see much of nowadays on one on ones.
Romario's politics has been brought into a discussion about Romario because he has become a politician.It would be so nice if people didn't bring political sickness to every discussion, especially when they don't know shit about the country they're talking about.
"Fascist sympathizer", the kind of shit you have to read.
Also, this stupid racial obsession isn't a thing in Brazil(maybe between some artists or twitter profiles that import this shit from America, but definitely not among people).
Goes for you, too.Hear hear
Maybe even like 88-94 but not that these were bad players, just that we don't seem to rate these guys in the top tens.I'm guessing we're talking about roughly 1990-1996 here?
Maybe not the sort of names casual (or not interested in any football before their time) fans in their teens/twenties are likely to know too well, but it did have plenty of players recognised as greats of their positions and countries.
I don't think it was any weaker in that respect than the late 90s to mid 00s Ronaldo/Zidane time even if some of the bigger names like Romario, Baggio and Laudrup ended up lacking that x factor (like a world cup/CL win or missing too many big tournaments through injury/other issues) that had made a player like Zidane be more enduringly famous.
Incidentally, i don't think Zidane would have fared as well if his prime had been late 80s-mid 90s pre-Bosman. France in a transitional between generations stage with an unqualified manager like Platini holding them back from making it a quick process. Strict foreign rule that had seen many clubs be ruthless with inconsistent/lazy genius types that like to take games off, those slow to adapt to new leagues, or any foreigner that had even one mediocre/average season; Serie A being particularly cutthroat. Internationally having to compete with immediately succeeding the notably more productive Platini. Not saying he wouldn't still have a great career, but it would be a more challenging time to replicate as many successes as he had in the late 90s-early 00s.
I wouldn't waste the effort debating you on that matter. Your misuse of the term "fascist" is all I need to know where such a debate would end up. So I'd rather stick to football.Romario's politics has been brought into a discussion about Romario because he has become a politician.
Bolsonaro is a fascist. Romario sympathises with him, as Bolsonaro sympathised with Brazil's erstwhile military dictatorship.
It's a fair assessment.
If it makes you uneasy, well that's your problem, isn't it? You don't have to be such a snowflake.
It's not 'racism' or anything other. Would gladly discuss Brazil's history with you at any juncture. I can guarantee you it won't justify either fascism and Bolsonaro's dangerous misrule.
Goes for you, too.
Ah right, I had it in my mind Rivaldo had already established himself as the support striker to Ronaldo given he had an amazing season with La Coruna in 96/97 and then settled in o.k at Barca (well as much as you can under Van Gaal!) but he clearly played in the positions behind the two strikers and Bebeto took Romario's place in the usual line up.It would have been a partnership of Ronaldo and Romario as Brazil played a 4222 shape. It’s one of the great ‘what if?’s had that duo had the opportunity to unleash their football on a World Cup. In 1997 they tore everyone to shreds.