How to get out of this mess

[Ahsan_6386]

Maybe this is a reactionary post I don't know but the thing is that suddenly it's dawning upon the fans the crazy mess we are in . We are on a record losing spree with a manager who seems under pressure and completely resigned on the bench and on whom we are trusting a record transfer amount . All our top players are out of form and the rest are enjoying their time here while earning a lot of money with zero output . We are jittery when it comes to signing a director of football who can lay a foundation with a proper tactical plan since the CEO looking for a yes man.

If we are looking at signing young upcoming talents then what would be sales pitch . Any top talent will avoid signing for us as we are a total mess . How do we change this ? Because honestly as a fan I am looking at another confusing summer with regards to team play and transfers .

 

[Chairman Steve]

Relinquish Ed and the marketing posse of running the football side of things. Get a DoF/technical director in to oversee the first team. Learn to spend wisely. We have plenty of evidence the marquee guys don’t work so get the younger lesser known guys in who are hungry to win things and play for Utd.

How Sanchez turned out should be a clear red flag to abandon this chase for the big marketable names. Those guys will see us as easy pension when their current clubs who know what they’re doing know that they’re on the decline.

 

[Mr Anderson]

Club sold
Woodie axed
DOF
feck out around 10 players
Sign committed players

That order

 

[Fooza]

- Cull the deadwood
- Buy smart and for the future
- Hire a DOF who has been successful in a top team and has a good vision
- Improve energy and coach the team like City (can Ole do it?)
- Have a scary attacking philosophy with really good consistent attacking players - attack has always been a form of defense, forget bus parking in any form

I;m tired of the blame games, the above should be in the mind of every single board member/staff at United.

 

[Ban]

Kick Ed and Glazers out of the club.

 

[Art]

Axe Ed.

 

[Pughnichi]

Take a leaf from Ajax’s playbook and get the youngsters in. Look what’s happening to Tuanzebe with regular minutes. He’s been great (albeit in the Championship) this season. They certainly won’t have a rotten attitude and we’d save a fortune.

GK DeGea, Henderson
DR Meunier, Dalot
CB Alderweireld, Smalling
CB Lindelof, Tuanzebe
LB Shaw, Laird (Dalot can also play here)
CDM Rice, McTominay, Garner
MC ???, Herrera
MC Brandt, Gomes
LF Martial, Rashford
RF Sancho, Chong
CF ???, Greenwood

Maybe even last chance for Sanchez as a striker. I mean are we really gonna manage to sell him!!

Just get rid of all the deadwood ASAP. I’m looking at Young, Darmian, Rojo, Jones, Bailly, Matic, Mata, Pogba, Lingard, Lukaku, Pereira, Romero, Fred

 

[Clerp Dawkins]

Relinquish Ed and the marketing posse of running the football side of things. Get a DoF/technical director in to oversee the first team. Learn to spend wisely. We have plenty of evidence the marquee guys don’t work so get the younger lesser known guys in who are hungry to win things and play for Utd.

How Sanchez turned out should be a clear red flag to abandon this chase for the big marketable names. Those guys will see us as easy pension when their current clubs who know what they’re doing know that they’re on the decline.

Our requirement policy post Fergie has been horrendous, in that time City have bought players that were hardly marquee signings, Bernado, Sane, Fernandinho, Laporte etc etc, they not only have big bucks but seem to have good scouts too

 

[MikeUpNorth]

There's no shortcuts. It's going to take a minimum of three years of consistently good transfer decisions and coaching.

 

[Judge Red]

Solely become a women’s team?

 

[peridigm]

Short term is a lost cause. Players have checked out. I know Ole said the best thing after a loss like against Everton is to play a team like City but that is horse shit. He only said that to build up the players. City were the worst team to play after that Everton loss. Should have played Cardiff or Fulham. We're is a bigger slump than anytime in the past 5 years. This is worse than that January under LVG in terms of results and performances. Only time will tell if Ole was the right choice.

The immediate need is to get players that fit Ole's style and they way he wants to shape this club. We need a DOF. No if's, and's, or but's, about it. Ed Woodward cannot continue to be in charge of everything. The owners have to have an eye on him. If they don't, they're fecking idiots. If the club don't back Ole, United will continue to fall down the table, market share will take a hit, and we'll no longer be that big club.

That takeover is looking the better option at this current time.

 

[Zlatattack]

If we had Saudi owners they might publicly flog the players.

 

[Camy89]

Get. Ed. Out.

 

[Web of Bissaka]

1. DOF hired.
2. Ed feck off from making football-related matters decisions.

We'll worry afterwards if the DOF is good or bad.

Axe/Sack Ed won't be the solution, his replacement will also likely be a businessman and clueless in football and yes-man to Glazers, so the cycle will continue.

 

[MrSingh2002]

Smart investments. Players aged 19-25 who are born leaders.

 

[Kevin]

We might need 20+ years. Like the scousers.

I still remember back in the day when we laughed off scousers posting how we would freefall after Ferguson retires. He wouldn't leave us prone to that they said. He would leave a strong core and sensible heads at the wheel, all would be well. We wouldn't do a Liverpool.

Unfortunately, the scousers were right even though they were just being hopeful.

 

[2 man midfield]

Discover oil under the stadium

 

[John Blund]

Build a fecken team. Don't buy players that don't fit in, just because they've had a good season or have a few good traits.
Defenders. We've not had a decent back four since Moyes took over and Rio/Vidic went cold.
Midfield. I can hardly remember us dictating games after Scholes retired for the 2nd time. And life after Carrick has been miserable.
Lukaku. We can't trust him to be our main man if we're going to challenge City and Liverpool. You can't have a top man without a first touch.

 

[ForestRGoinUp]

Stop looking through the rear view mirror.

 

[Camy89]

Solely become a women’s team?

Davina De Gea

Ashley Young
Victoria Lindelöf
Christina Smalling
Louise Shaw

Francesca
Pauline Pogba
Andrea Pereira

Jessie Lingard
Marlene Rashford

 

[el3mel]

Sack Woodward and appoint a competent DOF.

Will never happen so we'll never get out of this mess.

 

[arnie_ni]

We simply need direction from the top. We can't be run by ed in footballing terms. Thats step 1

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

There's no shortcuts. It's going to take a minimum of three years of consistently good transfer decisions and coaching.

We just keep doing the same things, in the blind hope for a different result in both these things, so give it any time you want, nothing will change until we do.

 

[Kopral Jono]

Glazers out, Woodward out, sell ALL current first-teamers bar a few, appoint a DoF, promote youngsters and invest heavily in scouting and player development. All of them are unrealistic long-term goals sadly, in the short term we're pretty much fecked to the core.

 

[The Hacker]

There's no shortcuts. It's going to take a minimum of three years of consistently good transfer decisions and coaching.

This! We have to think 2 or 3 years down the line. We have to plan and stick to the road That will take the club to that 3 year goal.

To think we can turn around the team mid season just by changing manager is crazy. We all know what we need though. Proper football structure in place (DOF), smarter investment on transfers and in wages and finally a cull of the ridiculous contracts some of our guys are on. It’s a tough slow road, but not impossible for a club with the financial power of ours!

 

[UnitedFan93]

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Manchester United. Two sports clubs that both have terrible management.

Anyone know what these clubs have in common?

There lies our problem.

 

[Lennon7]

10 years ago when a player joined United it’d be like a bright graduate stepping out onto the trading floor at Wall Street. They’d be amazed at how everything runs, excited to learn and get going, eager to compete with their peers and prove themselves. Now, it’s like walking into the head office of Flybe. feck me, the place is clearly rotten and we need to focus on getting in football minded directors who know what’s needed to get our club’s attitude towards FOOTBALL right. They’ve fecked up big time in so many ways.

 

[Mainoldo]

Take a leaf from Ajax’s playbook and get the youngsters in. Look what’s happening to Tuanzebe with regular minutes. He’s been great (albeit in the Championship) this season. They certainly won’t have a rotten attitude and we’d save a fortune.

GK DeGea, Henderson
DR Meunier, Dalot
CB Alderweireld, Smalling
CB Lindelof, Tuanzebe
LB Shaw, Laird (Dalot can also play here)
CDM Rice, McTominay, Garner
MC ???, Herrera
MC Brandt, Gomes
LF Martial, Rashford
RF Sancho, Chong
CF ???, Greenwood

Maybe even last chance for Sanchez as a striker. I mean are we really gonna manage to sell him!!

Just get rid of all the deadwood ASAP. I’m looking at Young, Darmian, Rojo, Jones, Bailly, Matic, Mata, Pogba, Lingard, Lukaku, Pereira, Romero, Fred

If this was a job interview for DOF, don’t expect a call back.

 

[K2K]

If we had Saudi owners they might publicly flog the players.

They beheaded 36 people this weekend.

This might be a PR disaster for us if it ever happened.

 

[stevoc]

Start winning some games.

 

[VeevaVee]

Everything Ole says points to knowing what's needed for us. Whether he's good enough to take us forward much more than a season I don't know, but I think he'll have the right ideas for building a team.

And the team needs a major refresh. Get the positions sorted where we're really lacking quality. That's the absolute utmost importance. It'll cost fecking loads and I don't think they'll do it, but that's the way out of the mess.

 

[Andycoleno9]

Answer is obvious. Sack Ole, bring Poch and give him total freedom to build his team.

 

[K2K]

If this was a job interview for DOF, don’t expect a call back.

He'd be kicked out of the room mid interview

 

[stevoc]

If we had Saudi owners they might publicly flog the players.

No they wouldn't.

 

[Baxter]

Take a leaf from Ajax’s playbook and get the youngsters in. Look what’s happening to Tuanzebe with regular minutes. He’s been great (albeit in the Championship) this season. They certainly won’t have a rotten attitude and we’d save a fortune.

GK DeGea, Henderson
DR Meunier, Dalot
CB Alderweireld, Smalling
CB Lindelof, Tuanzebe
LB Shaw, Laird (Dalot can also play here)
CDM Rice, McTominay, Garner
MC ???, Herrera
MC Brandt, Gomes
LF Martial, Rashford
RF Sancho, Chong
CF ???, Greenwood

Maybe even last chance for Sanchez as a striker. I mean are we really gonna manage to sell him!!

Just get rid of all the deadwood ASAP. I’m looking at Young, Darmian, Rojo, Jones, Bailly, Matic, Mata, Pogba, Lingard, Lukaku, Pereira, Romero, Fred

You’d be lucky to get 7th with that team.

 

[liamp]

Get Woodward to stay in his lane, hire an incredibly competent and experienced President of Football Operations, give him autonomy to build out a proper organizational structure, have him bring in a mix of his own people and individuals with institutional knowledge.

 

[Infra-red]

A top class DoF with experience of building successful Champions League-level sides in England/Germany/Spain/Italy and £500m in cash.

 

[VeevaVee]

10 years ago when a player joined United it’d be like a bright graduate stepping out onto the trading floor at Wall Street. They’d be amazed at how everything runs, excited to learn and get going, eager to compete with their peers and prove themselves. Now, it’s like walking into the head office of Flybe.

Jesus, that's a great comparison

 

[LeftyBlaster]

Relinquish Ed and the marketing posse of running the football side of things. Get a DoF/technical director in to oversee the first team. Learn to spend wisely. We have plenty of evidence the marquee guys don’t work so get the younger lesser known guys in who are hungry to win things and play for Utd.

How Sanchez turned out should be a clear red flag to abandon this chase for the big marketable names. Those guys will see us as easy pension when their current clubs who know what they’re doing know that they’re on the decline.

Pretty much this

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

Think it's too late to feel the effects of a DoF, we've already started planning for the Summer.

Meaning we've fecked it and another summer of Ed in charge, should have done it when Ole was appointed (as caretaker).