If he wins, then after that he can legitimately claim to be better than Ole.
I'm fishing for haters here.
I'm fishing for haters here.
If Poch doesn't win the league or the UCL now....
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Have you seen the midfield? You think a team with Guaye, Kehrer and Herrera is good for the Ch.League? This team needs a massive rebuild. They started with Donnaruma and got Ramos and Messi like we got Cavani (for the experience and fusing winning mentality to that team).
That is stuff for the "dystopia is now" thread.
Misunderstood then, apologies.
Very generous giving the benefit of the doubt. I mean he wrote "top 4, challenge for the league and a mickey mouse cup..." As if Poch would be allowed to "challenge for the league" i. e. not winning it a second season in a row right after signing Messi...
He won't be, team is unbalanced but after acquiring Messi you'd expect him to win at least the league.
I don't actually think they did though - again this was massively overblown on the caf - I'd be surprised if there were any posts saying he was as good as Klopp, Pep, Heynckes etc. outside of some trolling. I'm not 100% on him but what is evident is he can work with and improve youngsters and got his team punching above their weight, playing good (not amazing but good) attacking football in the PL. Him being liked by a large % of our fanbase if pretty logical, particularly when those other names were not around and people, rightly so, don't want someone like Allegri or Simeone at the helm.
Agree he should win the league and be in the running for the CL...I don't doubt he will do the former but feel that forward line will make them too weak defensively in the CL when they come up against a Bayern, City, Pool, maybe even us! Next year. That said, what do I know, they'll probably score 200+ goals and win everything.
Massive preassure for Poch, if Messi's arrives he will need to win the UCL otherwise he'll be sacked.
PSG is not a patient club and having Messi in his last year's I don't see them hanging with a manager for more than 1 season if he doesn't bring results.
PSG is not a patient club and having Messi in his last year's I don't see them hanging with a manager for more than 1 season if he doesn't bring results.
If PSG don't win the Champs League Potch will be gone 100%
Basically If PSG even drop off 1st in League he is at serious risk.
They should walk the League. Champs League on paper are the best team but doesn't mean anything.
I wonder what will happen if he wins the CL but fails in Ligue 1. Will the rarity of the CL outweigh two consecutive failures in that farmer's league?
And yes, last season counts as a failure. He had 21 games to close a measly 1 point gap with a team that probably cost more than the rest of the top 4 combined.
And yes, last season counts as a failure. He had 21 games to close a measly 1 point gap with a team that probably cost more than the rest of the top 4 combined.
There's no win for Poch: if he wins everybody will say that even Big Sam with a front three of Messi, Neymar and Mbappé would do it. If he looses, his reputation will forever be damaged.
This obession with Poch isn't healthy
PSG wins the league but fails at CL. Man City get bounced from CL.
Pep to PSG, Poch to Man Utd, Ole to Spurs!
Pep to PSG, Poch to Man Utd, Ole to Spurs!
Feck PSG, I would love it so much if they never win the CL, especially while Messi is there.
Actually not winning the French league would be quite an achievement with that team.
They certainly have to win the league, anything less than an easy, dominant title would be an embarrassment really.
You can't really set the CL as a target though. City still haven't managed it, with all their money, because it's hard.
You can't really set the CL as a target though. City still haven't managed it, with all their money, because it's hard.
If Poch fails, then Zidane would come...
they ought to get Ronaldo now
or the project will never be complete
or the project will never be complete
I think Guardiola will go to PSG next summer after neither PSG nor City with the CL this season.
He should be winning fecking both with that squad to be honest.
Personally I think Bayern, City and Us will beat them over 2 legs. Messi doesn’t have the legs anymore.Barça with a prime Messi, prime Neymar and prime Suarez managed just one Champions League so let’s not make out it’ll be easy.
“best team ever” by the way, my arseare we just going to pretend that 2016-19 Messi was worse than 34-year-old Messi or that Mbappe is better than prime Suarez?
PSG dressing room was already unmanageable, then add Messi and Ramos to it...
Good luck to Poch, sacked by Christmas and replaced by Zidane odds? Latter is the only man who can even vaguely control this team.
Squad is ridiculously bloated now, got to sell Icardi, Draxler plus couple of others. They'll never play and stink the place up.
Good luck to Poch, sacked by Christmas and replaced by Zidane odds? Latter is the only man who can even vaguely control this team.
Squad is ridiculously bloated now, got to sell Icardi, Draxler plus couple of others. They'll never play and stink the place up.
I'd hire Zidane right away, if I were PSG's owner. Why gamble with this winner of "no trophy" trophy??
Conte is also lurking.
It’s the progress that counts, not cups
I do think PSG still need a world class CM to finish the puzzle. I mean, now, and not waiting for next Summer.
Cups is for ego stroking.
He already accomplished more in half a year at PSG than Ole did in 2.5 years at United.
So Neymar left Barca because he wanted to be away from Messi's shadow.
Poch has only been allowed to spend 72 million since he joined PSG. We can't judge him until he is allowed to create his own team. This is a guy that bleeds PSG and as long as he gets CL football secured for next season he should continue.
I love this post
Think this PSG team is overrated.
Agreed, losing a one horse race is quite an achievement, shame he never got to manage Celtic before Rangers came back up, losing Scottish premiership back then would've been the only thing more impressive than that.
Do you think they have a great defense? I think you need to have a very solid defensive line (along with DM) to be able to play that front three. And I don't see it. Always found Ramos overrated and he's well past it. They seem to be pinning all their hopes on Marquinous
I was joking about Pogba, man. They still have Kimpembe as CB. And yes, their midfield isn't really the best, and lack of a fighter there.
Some poster on here are trying to find Way to criticize Poch, but all of them fail. Your post should have had this thread closed by nowBarça with a prime Messi, prime Neymar and prime Suarez managed just one Champions League so let’s not make out it’ll be easy.
“best team ever” by the way, my arse
then.... bonded labour in the Qatar oil fields
Goung both ways, too. The people who think he's the best in the world and the people who think he's hugely overrated. And both of them try to drag you into either camp the minute you say anything about him. Can we not all just agree he's a good manager with a few flaws but for better or worse we've missed the boat on him and it's time to move on?
Their midfield has Veratti, Wijnaldum and Paredes. That looks pretty good to me tbh. And a pretty good foil for the front 3 with all being defensively good.