Who do you think will give those to them?
Iran Plane Crash and Subsequent Protests
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No they dont. Unless you're pointing to when they nationalized the petroleum co.
They're where they are today thanks to the US and their meddling
Shooting down any civilian airliner is a huge tragedy. If if happens deliberately then it is a war crime. By all accounts all the airlines that has been shot down, including the Korean Air, Iran Air and this Ukrainian one seems to be tragic mistakes. The MH is still open and not closed yet. No one is going to shoot down a civilian airliner. Since this comes under the purview of ICAO the facts are going to come out as Ukranine and Iran are involved in the investigations. BEA of France is leading the technical side of it.
In most cases the investigation is to find out the cause. Now in this case we all know the cause as it has been shot down by a SAM. Now the crucial part of the investigation would be to find out why the Operator fired the SAM.
By the way so far Iran has done this openly for whatever reasons they have may it be US has satellite information on this. Now they need to do the investigations as per the standards of ICAO to satisfy the International community. There is also compensation for the passengers and the airline as they have already said that they will do so.
I hope that this is a lesson learned for the world and to stop agitating for war.
In most cases the investigation is to find out the cause. Now in this case we all know the cause as it has been shot down by a SAM. Now the crucial part of the investigation would be to find out why the Operator fired the SAM.
By the way so far Iran has done this openly for whatever reasons they have may it be US has satellite information on this. Now they need to do the investigations as per the standards of ICAO to satisfy the International community. There is also compensation for the passengers and the airline as they have already said that they will do so.
I hope that this is a lesson learned for the world and to stop agitating for war.
Way to respect others cultures, love the caf.
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I can see that being a reality to be honest, what a sad world we live in.
Iran arrests missile videographer
Supposedly they have the wrong person too.
Way to go Iran, shooting the messenger.
Supposedly they have the wrong person too.
Way to go Iran, shooting the messenger.
No they haven't. They initially blocked all outside access and denied it was anything to do with a missile. It was only when they realised they'd been caught red handed they started 'cooperating'.Sounds like someone is going to suffer purely because he made it so Iran couldn't get away with it. I'm surprised they have stated he was arrested for that, and didn't just come up with some random planted evidence and claim it was totally unrelated.
You think theocracy is an historically embedded feature of Iranian culture? Persia was a place of wine and poetry before Islam squatted there.
It depends. No investigating authority can come out and say it has been shot down by a missile initially. By all accounts the State Authorities were not informed initially by the military that it was shot down. Once it was the Iranian President called the Ukranian President and only after sometime was it known to the public.
Now they have stated they are sending the DFDR to Kiev for the reading and if they cannot then it is going to France. A lot better than what others including USSR and USA has done. Everyone knew that both shot down civil aircraft. One the Iranian one was actually flying on an approved route and in Iranian airspace, while the KE did deviate from the approved route and was flying in banned airspace. No one was arrested while the US actually gave the Legion of Merit to the commander of the USS Vincennes.
Today it marks 3 years since the downing of PS752.
I just came back from the candle lighting memorial in North York Toronto. Around 5-6k people were there, almost all Iranians.
Very emotional really, especially given what's going on now....Hamed Esmailion's speech (who lost his wife and only daughter in this terrorist act), was so touching, you have to be a stone not to cry after. He still wears his ring and says he'll continue his fight for justice until we know why and who ordered IRGC to shoot down the civilian airliner.
The IR regime is so lucky. They did a horrific, indefensible terrorist act and a month later Covid exploded and the whole international community completely forgot about it.
I lost my classmate and his wife on the plane. Most Iranian community in Canada knew someone on that plane. It's really personal.
We just have to get revenge. There is no other. choice. The only way to get justice for 176 innocent lives is to topple the regime and get IRGC and Khamanei to court to admit why they ordered the shooting of the civilian airliner.
Hopefully by this time next year ....
I just came back from the candle lighting memorial in North York Toronto. Around 5-6k people were there, almost all Iranians.
Very emotional really, especially given what's going on now....Hamed Esmailion's speech (who lost his wife and only daughter in this terrorist act), was so touching, you have to be a stone not to cry after. He still wears his ring and says he'll continue his fight for justice until we know why and who ordered IRGC to shoot down the civilian airliner.
The IR regime is so lucky. They did a horrific, indefensible terrorist act and a month later Covid exploded and the whole international community completely forgot about it.
I lost my classmate and his wife on the plane. Most Iranian community in Canada knew someone on that plane. It's really personal.
We just have to get revenge. There is no other. choice. The only way to get justice for 176 innocent lives is to topple the regime and get IRGC and Khamanei to court to admit why they ordered the shooting of the civilian airliner.
Hopefully by this time next year ....
Didn't they say they thought it was an American missile? This happened still after Soleimani died and Iran also attacked the US base in Iraq so there were a lot of tensions and as bad as the Iranian regime is I don't think they would have intentionally shot down a civilian airline that too with many Iranian civilians.
The US did the same to an Iranian flight in the 80s and nothing happened to them, Russian supported forces shot down Malaysian airlines and nothing happened to them. Nothing will happen of this as well.
Yeah because Iran loves its disapora so much.
@Hanks Most sincere condolences to you and your late friend's family.
I also hope that the regime will fall soon in order for justice to be delivered. I still cannot wrap my head around how such a feck-up could even happen in the first place.
I also hope that the regime will fall soon in order for justice to be delivered. I still cannot wrap my head around how such a feck-up could even happen in the first place.