I hate how the English media pretend he's injured when he doesn't play well. Based on nothing but a poor performance. It was the exact same narrative after the group stages in Russia.
Is Harry Kane England's sacred cow?
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Maybe it's an England thing with him at the moment then.
At least there is still time in the tournament for him to come good.
How is that any different than how the English media talk up any player, did you see the build up to Greilish coming on?
That he plays in front of a midfield two who offer just as little at Spurs and still manages to knock in 30 goals most seasons.
Agreed with Keane, looks leggy. Doesn't bode well for a 'big move' in the summer.
I made that point in Jacks thread? It seems like an injury excuse is plucked from thin air when Kane fecks it for England. Literally nothing to back it up but we will say it anywayHow is that any different than how the English media talk up any player, did you see the build up to Greilish coming on?
Has to be dropped. Can't have a player playing like that at an international tournament. Even if maybe it's to send him a message. Amazed someone like Wilson wasn't selected for the tournament.
International teams are never a good indication to rate a player or not. All that matters is his form with his club in the league for anyone interested in buying.
Pretty much the entire English team was shit tonight bar probably Mount.
Pretty much the entire English team was shit tonight bar probably Mount.
So what is your point? He has a shit midfield for both teams? He was clearly told today to stay forward, and he did, as a result got feck all service from the prodical sons of Foden and Mount, a winger in Sterling playing as a 10 and Greilish, the return of Jesus himself, doing diddly.
Yes. The first post I responded to was you saying he was shit (or at least partially) because of the midfield?
Yup, they're as slow as they come. Calves are fast as feck though.
No I said he was shit all by himself, but so were most of the team.
Begining to wonder if the City transfer is on his mind?
Originally he wanted any transfer business done and dusted before the Euro’s.
Originally he wanted any transfer business done and dusted before the Euro’s.
Him and Sterling both need to be dropped but just can’t see it happening. No doubt even if he did drop him Southgate would just pick Rashford who is also not fit.
Anyone considering buying Kane for big money is in for a serious shock this coming season
Is this a RvN-type of situation? Man Utd's fluidity went up a gear after playing a more dynamic striker (Saha), right?
What did any 2/3 player do tonight to show they shouldn't be dropped?
He should be exploiting the Shaw/Rashford linkup on the left side. Rashford came on tonight and played down the middle, had about three touches in 15 minutes because Sterling refused to pass the ball to him. I agree Rashford isn’t fully fit, but he can be utilised better.
If your talking about his later seasons when he was well past it as he didn't look after himself, you can bet your ass I complained.
If your talking about Prime Rooney as Kane is now in his prime then no, I didn't need to complain.
Prime Rooney was a force of nature and on another planet from Kane.
Kanes a phenomenal finisher.
Rooney was a phenomenal footballer.
Kane has looked well off the pace in both games.
Interesting how Kane and Lukaku compare. Kane bypassed him by decent margin when Lukaku moved to United, Lukaku seems clear now despite his flaws. Kane should genuinely be dropped, he offers basically nothing. Happy United won't spend over 100 million to sign him.
So? He's Kane, Kane should always start.
I agree but who looked good for England going forward, I'm not defending Kane.
No one but this is a thread about Kane who has done nothing in either game and doesn’t look fit, he’s been subbed off in both games which shows how bad he’s been.
Again, I said he had a stinker? Why are you arguing?
Poor Old Harry looks a bit washed up. Maybe he just needs some fresh grass to liven him up a bit.
Put Dominic Calvert-Lewin up there, and he'd be shit as well. It is not Kane.
Needs to stop pretending he’s a #10.
Not arguing he’s just worst of a bad bunch, put him out of his misery and drop him.
England need someone to actually lead the line. They have enough talent in those areas between the oppositions midfield and defence.
Foden did take up the space ahead of him a few times early on, but it’s not really his game. Sterling is just shit.
Anyone who spends 100 million on Kane is mental.
Foden did take up the space ahead of him a few times early on, but it’s not really his game. Sterling is just shit.
Anyone who spends 100 million on Kane is mental.
He's being told to while being given NO pace to work with
Would have absolutely no problem with that and see how the others fair.
But he'd actually be up there, which would be a big improvement on Kane.
They can’t do any worse so worth a go and maybe Kane could be effective off the bench.
Could well be.
Completely agree. He'd slow us down and would not suit United. He's got no pace now and he'll get even slower over the next year or two.
He did an interview with Gary Neville recently too where he implied that he thinks he can get to the numbers of what Messi and Ronaldo have achieved. This should set alarm bells ringing for us as it gives an insight into him being a bit out of touch with reality to put it mildly!
Yeah I feel the English media make too much of him dropping deep. He's not a good footballer in those areas compared to the likes of Foden, Mount or Grealish. To be honest I'm not liking the balance of that attack at all. Foden shouldn't be on the right, either him or Mount central. Sterling is playing average for the last 12 months and isn't bringing enough. Kane isn't getting the service or options around him to feed off him and make the most of what he can do.
All just a mess and boring to watch.
If United splash big money on him, he will be a dud - mark my words. Just does not stretch the game enough anymore especially not against top top sides or in very pressured games. Spurs player.
absolutely cannot understand how Sancho isn’t in the team ahead of Foden. England need more pace and penetration, there’s too many wannabe #10s in there: Mount, Kane and Foden all want to get on the ball rather than getting in behind.
Sterling is Sterling and will always be a headless chicken.
Sterling is a good outlet for a dominant team like City. He's not the right player for a submissive England team that seemingly needs a talisman in every position. Either sort the plan out or change the team. This England team is going nowhere fast.