At the moment, surely not. Still, it's not THAT long ago since fans pinned out loss in the EL final to Maguire's absence. Maguire's standing dramatically demolished last season, but Rojo left the club in the January window 2021, and he is referring to a conversation he had with Ole in 2019 - calling the manager "son of a bitch" because he was not picked over Maguire. Absolutely laughable.
Is Harry Maguire being a worldwide punchline deserved?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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I don't rate Maguire but Rojo is actually the worst United defender I've seen with more than 20 starts.
What level is he now? I still think he walks into the current Spurs side but that isn't say much.
I know there are a lot of people who think we will have no problem selling him, and I think that was true for ever-present 2019 Harry Maguire.
But for 2023 version, after so many mistakes, in an era where managers fortunes can change so quickly, I honestly don’t know who would take the chance and the pressure that comes with such a signing.
We will have to subsidize his wages and hope that he is content dropping out of the European clubs. Honestly, based on his interviews, I don’t think his pride would let him do that.
But for 2023 version, after so many mistakes, in an era where managers fortunes can change so quickly, I honestly don’t know who would take the chance and the pressure that comes with such a signing.
We will have to subsidize his wages and hope that he is content dropping out of the European clubs. Honestly, based on his interviews, I don’t think his pride would let him do that.
I think Maguire might actually be a good fit at Newcastle. Could form a partnership with Dan Burn.
Others have said it, but he's not been the same player since he had those legal problems in Greece.
Probably the best form of his career (certainly the best in his time here) came after that though. He started that season in poor form for the first couple of months, then improved a bit for a couple other months before really stepping up and being one of the best defenders in the league for the second half of that season. That half a season is really the only time since he joined us that he's been consistently good enough.
The difference is I'm not being personal about it, my comments are all based on how he plays for Utd. There's no shame in not being good enough for us, vast majority of players aren't. It's not his fault someone paid £50m too much for him. I don't really care about how he handles criticism or conducts himself as he's just not good enough for an elite club. He's a perfectly good enough premier league CB when playing mostly in a low block counter attack system. No shame in that whatsoever. I don't really get any glee out of making his very name a kind of synonym for personal failure though as has pretty much been the case online. I find it tasteless yeah.
I don't think it was a mistake to let him hold on to the captaincy, as it would have been sensible to keep him and the rest of the squad onside. As the expression goes, it's better to have him inside the tent pissing out than outside pissing in.
Maguire would be outside the tent pissing in his own face before falling over and landing in someone else's piss
Obviously, he has to go. He's now been relegated to 5th choice, behind our left-back.
As for where he goes, maybe West Ham. I just don't think there will be that many top teams who would want him in all honesty.
As for where he goes, maybe West Ham. I just don't think there will be that many top teams who would want him in all honesty.
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Quite frankly, I don't think there are many players in this squad who have a great deal of respect for Maguire as captain, so taking it off him would do absolutely nothing in that regard.
Despite everything I still think his market value is north of £25m
He is not a "trash" footballer as some fans claim to be or a world class footballer, he is just a standard PL level CB, similar to what we had in Silvestre or OShea (their CB versions)
There is that, but I can understand ETH's need to be diplomatic too. I think we're all agreed that he should move on this summer regardless, this shite of 'I want to stay and fight for my place' is nothing short of him doing a Rodwell.
He is a standard PL level CB with some glaring weaknesses. Almost every player has a certain weakness but i havent seen many players where it is so obvious and hurting the team so much as with Maguire. He is a good PL level CB in a system that prevents the chances for his weaknesses to show.
There are definitely PL teams for whom Harry Maguire would "do a job". I'm thinking teams who defend deeper, don't dominate possession, don't expect their defenders to play out from the back, and rely on counterattack. The one that immediately comes to mind is West Ham, I could see Moyes being interested in him for the right price.
But coming back to the title of the thread. At what stage does Maguire become such an online laughing stock, that it actually prevents clubs going in for him?! Not because they're not interested in him, but because they're afraid of blowback from their own fans who have seen too many of those "'Arry Maguiahhh" tiktok memes?!
But coming back to the title of the thread. At what stage does Maguire become such an online laughing stock, that it actually prevents clubs going in for him?! Not because they're not interested in him, but because they're afraid of blowback from their own fans who have seen too many of those "'Arry Maguiahhh" tiktok memes?!
I have many fond memories of O'Shea and some of Silvestre. The memories I have of Maguire are ones I want to forget asap.
He will be good for a team which will sit deep and play with 3 at the back. He is solid PL defender in right system.
But in 4 at the back system with high line he looks like Wout in attack. Completely out of depth.
But in 4 at the back system with high line he looks like Wout in attack. Completely out of depth.
H.Maguire and being good in the same sentence is laughable. The only issue at hand is hopefully some manager other than Southgate has a love for him so we can get a decent transfer bid
Absolutely yes, hes a terrible player, but there are other terrible players, eg Weghorst, that are likeable and honest and work hard, they dont belong at United but I like them. Maguire is both, terrible player and terrible unlikable arrogant attitude.
Surely we reached this stage a year ago already.
I will never forget Maguire doing this.
He tackled his own team-mate which then led to our opponent scoring against us.
Shaw was shocked.
He tackled his own team-mate which then led to our opponent scoring against us.
Shaw was shocked.
I had forgotten about this...
This is bad but the one at Man City where he let it run through his legs in our box and they scored, as if he's Messi, was worse for me.
Absolutely awful player
Think about when the decision was made.
If ETH takes the captaincy at the beginning of this season then we probably make Ronaldo captain at that point we’d have been stuffed.
ETH may have actually used Maguire in the best way possible this season.
That's the first time I ever saw a player foul his own teammate.
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