fergieisold
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Thought this was the peak.
Makes it even worse that Agbonlahor become Abonglahor
Thought this was the peak.
Makes it even worse that Agbonlahor become Abonglahor
I think people forget how young he is. He burst onto the scene and then had a lull. It is common in many, many young players in particular forwards. Add that to the fact Utd as a team were going through an awful period and he had basically the weight of the world on his shoulders. The lack of patience from some supports is astonishingRashford has vastly improved his mentality and attitude. He was going through a period of selfishness that comes with an inflated ego. The "ego bubble" has burst and he's a much better player for it.
That pretty much sums it up. This kid is a special talent and has been since his first arrival in the first team. My only regret is that Ole wasn't managing him sooner...Comparing stats for this season across all competitions:
Sterling (36 G+A) : 27 goals, 9 assists in 3572 minutes - 132 min/goal, 396 min/assist, 99 min/g+a
Jimenez (36 G+A) : 26 goals, 10 assists in 4133 minutes - 158 min/goal, 413 min/assist, 114 min/g+a
Salah (35 G+A) : 23 goals, 12 assists in 3956 minutes - 172 min/goal, 329 min/assist, 113 min/g+a
KDB (34 G+A) : 13 goals, 21 assists in 3376 minutes - 259 min/goal, 160 min/assist, 99 min/g+a
Mane (33 G+A) : 21 goals, 12 assists in 3607 minutes - 171 min/goal, 300 min/assist, 109 min/g+a
Vardy (30 G+A) : 23 goals, 7 assists in 3248 minutes - 141 min/goal, 464 min/assist, 108 min/g+a
Martial (30 G+A) : 22 goals, 8 assists in 3125 minutes - 142 min/goal, 390 min/assist, 104 min/g+a
Son: (30 G+A) : 18 goals, 12 assists in 3005 minutes - 166 min/goal, 250 min/assist, 100 min/g+a
Aguero (27 G+A) : 23 goals, 4 assists in 2092 minutes - 90 min/goal, 418 min/assist, 77 min/g+a
Ings (26 G+A) : 23 goals, 3 assists in 2919 minutes - 126 min/goal, 973 min/assist, 112 min/g+a
Auba (25 G+A) : 23 goals, 2 assists in 3365 minutes - 146 min/goal, 1682 min/assist, 134 min/g+a
Kane (23 G+A) : 21 goals, 2 assists in 2860 minutes - 136 min/goal, 1430 min/assist, 124 min/g+a
Rashford (33 G+A) : 22 goals, 11 assists in 3019 minutes - 137 min/goal, 274 min/assist - 91 min/g+a
Only Sterling, Aguero, Ings and Kane have scored at a faster rate, and only Ageuro has a better rate of goal/assist contribution.
Also, of course I did Bruno's numbers, but it's England + Portugal :
Bruno ( 45 G+A) : 23 goals, 22 assists in 3830 minutes - 166 min/goal, 174 min/assist - 85 min/g+a
Edit: Rashford is over 2 years younger than the next person on the list - Martial (who himself is a full year younger than the next person on the list - Sterling).
What I liked most is that a good partnership between him and Martial is taking shape.
I agree. I don’t think it was inevitable that he would overcome that ego issue if someone like Mourinho remained in charge. Ole coming has been vital - tbf any half decent human would have brought the best out of Rashford as he seems like a good lad - it’s just Mourinho was creating a toxic environment and poisoning a lot of players and their relationships with fans and with each other.He is United's POTY but he definitely needed some bubble bursting at one point. He has cut off those totally unnecessary long shots. His teamwork and passing are actually his strongpoint now
Squishy...oh dearWelbeck was better mate.
I love a striker who excels at shitting himself inside the box.
When I saw a notification from this post, I was honestly expecting a more shocking post of mine (dissing Rashford, as I've done often) to have been quotedPraise worthy post, this one. From last year
He might prove himself to be Championship level yet.Comparing stats for this season across all competitions:
Sterling (36 G+A) : 27 goals, 9 assists in 3572 minutes - 132 min/goal, 396 min/assist, 99 min/g+a
Jimenez (36 G+A) : 26 goals, 10 assists in 4133 minutes - 158 min/goal, 413 min/assist, 114 min/g+a
Salah (35 G+A) : 23 goals, 12 assists in 3956 minutes - 172 min/goal, 329 min/assist, 113 min/g+a
KDB (34 G+A) : 13 goals, 21 assists in 3376 minutes - 259 min/goal, 160 min/assist, 99 min/g+a
Mane (33 G+A) : 21 goals, 12 assists in 3607 minutes - 171 min/goal, 300 min/assist, 109 min/g+a
Vardy (30 G+A) : 23 goals, 7 assists in 3248 minutes - 141 min/goal, 464 min/assist, 108 min/g+a
Martial (30 G+A) : 22 goals, 8 assists in 3125 minutes - 142 min/goal, 390 min/assist, 104 min/g+a
Son: (30 G+A) : 18 goals, 12 assists in 3005 minutes - 166 min/goal, 250 min/assist, 100 min/g+a
Aguero (27 G+A) : 23 goals, 4 assists in 2092 minutes - 90 min/goal, 418 min/assist, 77 min/g+a
Ings (26 G+A) : 23 goals, 3 assists in 2919 minutes - 126 min/goal, 973 min/assist, 112 min/g+a
Auba (25 G+A) : 23 goals, 2 assists in 3365 minutes - 146 min/goal, 1682 min/assist, 134 min/g+a
Kane (23 G+A) : 21 goals, 2 assists in 2860 minutes - 136 min/goal, 1430 min/assist, 124 min/g+a
Rashford (33 G+A) : 22 goals, 11 assists in 3019 minutes - 137 min/goal, 274 min/assist - 91 min/g+a
Only Sterling, Aguero, Ings and Kane have scored at a faster rate, and only Ageuro has a better rate of goal/assist contribution.
Also, of course I did Bruno's numbers, but it's England + Portugal :
Bruno ( 45 G+A) : 23 goals, 22 assists in 3830 minutes - 166 min/goal, 174 min/assist - 85 min/g+a
Edit: Rashford is over 2 years younger than the next person on the list - Martial (who himself is a full year younger than the next person on the list - Sterling).
All this thread demonstrates is how how toxic and impatient our supporters have become. Rashford would you walk into the starting 11 of any of our rivals. We’re lucky to have him and should be proud that he’s one of our own.
I don’t know about that.All this thread demonstrates is how how toxic and impatient our supporters have become. Rashford would you walk into the starting 11 of any of our rivals. We’re lucky to have him and should be proud that he’s one of our own.
I can't believe he wasn't loaned out to championship to learn his game as he won't get into any team in the league.He might prove himself to be Championship level yet.
My post over a year ago has aged so badlyI've been saying this for a while now, he's the most overrated player in the PL. In fact struggle to think of a more overrated player in Europe.
The second our opponents shut down the space in behind he becomes pointless. Somehow he seems to have enchanted the English media and a large section of United fans into thinking he's a nailed on world beater.
If he wasn't a local lad, there's a very big possibility he'd be on loan. Good player with good potential but the expectation and responsibility he's given is far beyond what he's capable of.
Starts over Mahrez and Bernardo moved to midfield.I don’t know about that.
Man City: Aguero, Sterling, Mahrez, Bernardo.
Liverpool: Salah, Mane, Firmino.
Rashford would get into them 11’s after a while of training in their systems and tactical set up, but I am not quite sure that he would be able to walk straight into the 11.
why? does one not need skill and composure to take penalties?This is really skewed by the fact Rashford takes penalties, however.
Incidentally, Rooney only had 4 seasons where he's bettered Rashford's current numbers in the league:It might be a bit off-topic and petty but I'm still so wound up over your man Flex from The United Stand referring to him as 'Rashford', and almost in a way that suggested he was trying to get it trending.
The guy is so talented. This playmaking has come out of nowhere and its so impressive and in all honesty I didn't know if he'd ever gain composure in front of goal to this degree but it looks like he has done. I'm so excited for the next 10 years with Rashford featuring in our first team, and he will be.
Dare I say Rooney best watch out.
Oh come on. In the context of using the number of goals to prove how good a player is, penalties are definitely worth a little less. Not worth less in the actual match, just in this particular type of evaluation. And no one mentioned tap ins.Goals from penalties are worth less than from open play? What about tap ins?
Marginal offsides and a brilliant last ditch block denied him three tap-ins in the last two games. Agree he should have scored more up until now but the service hasn’t been great and his game is still evolving.I have always rated Rashford but I have also always criticised him for one thing - and I stand by that. He does not get enough tap-in goals - and I think I wrote a few years ago that Rashford will never get 20 league goals (excluding penalties) - but I would love for him to prove me wrong.
But I feel he will be a scorer of great goals rather than a great goalscorer.
There is a world of difference between people with doubts and people who literally declare they think a player is rubbish and they'd be happy to be proved wrong. To add the later caveat is strange indeed. It literally means one would be happy to look stupidDont really get you.
If we buy a player thats bad at first (you doubt his ability, "i dont think he is good enough") and then he becomes world class. If you are not happy to be proven wrong there, then your motives and agenda is questionable. It is completely normal to have doubts over a player and then to be proven wrong.
That would be nice but you'll probably see a Martial vs Mason vs Marcus thread in 10 minutes.Honestly some of you would complain about Messi if he played for us. Enjoy him, enjoy Martial, enjoy Mason. They are special.
indeedIt's great, you get to constantly spout utter nonsense about a player you don't like and then not take any responsibility for it when shown up.
Yes, i agree.There is a world of difference between people with doubts and people who literally declare they think a player is rubbish and they'd be happy to be proved wrong. To add the later caveat is strange indeed. It literally means one would be happy to look stupid
It's not really something you'd expect from him playing from the left, though, is it? He's much more involved in the build-up and spends a lot of time in the channels trying to provide those types of goals rather than scoring them.I have always rated Rashford but I have also always criticised him for one thing - and I stand by that. He does not get enough tap-in goals - and I think I wrote a few years ago that Rashford will never get 20 league goals (excluding penalties) - but I would love for him to prove me wrong.
But I feel he will be a scorer of great goals rather than a great goalscorer.
I have always rated Rashford but I have also always criticised him for one thing - and I stand by that. He does not get enough tap-in goals - and I think I wrote a few years ago that Rashford will never get 20 league goals (excluding penalties) - but I would love for him to prove me wrong.
But I feel he will be a scorer of great goals rather than a great goalscorer.
Agree with both. What I do find interesting is he had always made brilliant runs in behind and never had the service. But his in the box runs haven't always been great. But as you said his game is evolving and these are things to work on and develop. Not like for ex RVP was a great goal scorer at 22...Marginal offsides and a brilliant last ditch block denied him three tap-ins in the last two games. Agree he should have scored more up until now but the service hasn’t been great and his game is still evolving.
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This thread should be bumped every week regardless of what Rashford does. Just to shame those responsible for those garbage comments.Here's some genius comments and I only looked at the first 2 pages.
The Welbeck comparison should be framed at the top of the Caf home page
How many u23 left wingers get" tap in" goals in the top 3 leagues?I have always rated Rashford but I have also always criticised him for one thing - and I stand by that. He does not get enough tap-in goals - and I think I wrote a few years ago that Rashford will never get 20 league goals (excluding penalties) - but I would love for him to prove me wrong.
But I feel he will be a scorer of great goals rather than a great goalscorer.
I think you're the one making it an ego thingThere is a world of difference between people with doubts and people who literally declare they think a player is rubbish and they'd be happy to be proved wrong. To add the later caveat is strange indeed. It literally means one would be happy to look stupid
Some people have that instinct for being in the right place at the right time - Rashford hasn't got it - and probably never will. Instead he scores goals that are much more difficult to score - but hopefully OGS can give him some ideas of what he should do differently.How many u23 left wingers get" tap in" goals in the top 3 leagues?
And how do they compare to Rashford?
You dont know how to answer, do you?
Some people have that instinct for being in the right place at the right time - Rashford hasn't got it - and probably never will. Instead he scores goals that are much more difficult to score - but hopefully OGS can give him some ideas of what he should do differently.
https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-on-the-art-of-goalscoring“I wasn't born with the ability to move in front of goal. I studied finishing, I studied goals, I studied movement, I worked on my mentality because that's key.
“I think Marcus Rashford has got the motivation and inspiration himself to become the best he can be. He practises a lot, he's got so much more than I had in the physical attributes - his pace and strength, striking from outside the box.
”Maybe I can give him a little bit of that nous that I had in the box - your movement to get free, that little bit of calmness in front of goal. But it's easy to say when I was 27, 28 or 29 because Marcus is 21 and still learning.
Great post and reinforces in my mind why Ole was the right man for the clubhttps://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-on-the-art-of-goalscoring
This was from Ole when he took over, everything can be taught, yes even movement. That's to do with mentality and just this season you can see Rashford getting into many goalscoring positions. With age and experience they will learn how to create extra bit of space too.
Yeah, there are few things to complain about Ole but his man management and few of the improvements in some young players is just superb.Great post and reinforces in my mind why Ole was the right man for the club
Who better to improve young strikers who's one problem is poaching
It's scary to think that they're not even 25 yet.