That's not the point here. Sammsky is claiming we should all agree with everything the manager says and does. Whoever the manager is. To not is to be arrogant and foolish.
You are now deliberately misconstruing what I wrote to make yourself feel better.
You're enjoyably nuts. Makes the place interesting.
How is a manager responsible for a top level player missing a sitter?
How is a manager responsible for a top level player missing a sitter?
I think you and a few others are being a little overscrupulous here.
First of all not all chances are sitters
Doesn't apply to Moyes because sammsky is a scholar of Sir Alex's brain. To him - Moyes is just small potatoes. One can't help but admire that sort of humility.
He really is. He doesn't think you can criticise a decision and support the manager at the same time. Thinks it's arrogant and foolish to disagree whoever is in charge. I'm not going to quote the posts as I don't want to come across as being harsh but just have a read back. I'm not criticising him either, I enjoy debating those who have a completely different way of looking at stuff.
He did say that however
There are a lot way to see it though. We might be able to score goals if we play in the system which we can get the best out of some of our current players. It looks to me that we have been forcing players to play in the manager system even though they aren't suitable for the players. If you look at Fergie, he tends to rotate his players because he rotates his formation since he approached every game differently and use different system depends on who's the opposition teams are.
What does humility have anything to do with anything?
You're being extremely arrogant whilst affecting to appear modest. Don't think I can put it in simpler terms. I just find that very funny. And no I won't cut out the sarcasm. I don't think your posts deserve much more than that.
Strange that you want to psycho analyse a random person on the internet so much and that I affect you in such a profound way. All because I said I believe in my manager, more than random blokes on the internet. Why are you so insecure?
You're right, you aren't worth any attention, adieu.Strange that you want to psycho analyse a random person on the internet so much and that I affect you in such a profound way. All because I said I believe in my manager, more than random blokes on the internet. Why are you so insecure?
I guess I should be honoured. So thanks for the attention.
Anyways, Im done here as I cant be bothered with your pseudo aggression and personal insults. So bye.
He had the balls to drop our top scorer, and put out a tactical masterclass to the current EPL leaders, that's why. There is no question that Mourinho is still The Special One.
Good points. I think the three main ways a manager can be blamed for lack of goals are: poor tactics, poor selection/placement of players and poor motivation.
This. Loved mourinho today, I just realize I'm one of those lover/hater fans. I wouldn't be surprised if they draw the next match though.Team wins = manager is fine
Team doesn't win = manager is shit
You guys
A lack of killer instinct/confidence/belief.
He won 1 match versus Chelsea, a feat Crystal Palace also managed. I agree the performance was good and tactically we played a good game, I wouldn't say masterclass, it was just good nothing more and I would say it was about goddamn time aswell because we have been waiting long enough for it.
Taking points from games that we have 'in hand' for granted, is never very wise. It's especially unwise given the fact that we are only now coming to the hardest part of the fixture list (which flatters our league position and points tally).
If all that were to happen, no one would deny that it would be a big improvement on last season, and Mourinho would undoubtedly deserve credit for it. It doesn't look very likely at this point though, hence the doubts and the disappointment.
This is the crux for me. Go back and read the discussion that we've had as Mourinho was about to get appointed. People in favor were telling us what a stupid and romantic conceit this idea of 'longevity' is, how wishing for an 'attacking style' is quixotic, and how the modern world of football is all about instant results. He might not be a Wenger or a Ferguson, he might not linger for too long, he might win 'ugly' at times, but who cares, when he brings instant success? I have to say, despite loathing his persona, I was sold on this proposition. I was absolutely fine with the Faustian wager, as argued.
How else can we compare when teams have game in hand?
Could it be that neither managers suddenly turn shit but actually changes take time?
Klopp is in his second season, and they have no European "distractions" thanks to his first season. He's had transfer windows and he decided on this squad. He's had plenty of time to implement his tactics and for all the plaudits, he's not winning anything this year.
We've gone from losing quite a few in the early season to not losing. Perhaps we can now turn those draws to wins?
It's not his fault some have placed unrealistic expectations on him from day 1.
Oh wow. This type of vivisection is incredibly tiresome to read (for a third party especially), so I'll try to condense.
Likewise, he hasn't achieved what would be his #1 target yet and should probably be judged when/if that happens.
You have to look at the game in the right context, though. For the first time this season, we actually looked and played like a proper Jose Mourinho football team; A solid defensive unit with a tendancy to hit hard on the counter, classic Jose. Moreover the eleven players on the pitch all looked as if they were on the same page fully aware of the tactical plan in place. It just worked plain and simple.
Top post.
The Chelsea match was clearly the exception though and not the rule thus far. A one-off performance in a one-off tactical formation (built specifically for Chelsea and no one else). What about that game or this season would make that seem out of context? Taken out of context, one would project that because we executed that specific plan against Chelsea, we will continue to do so against other teams when other teams clearly don't necessitate those tactics. And we've clearly failed to deliver that type of dominant, confident performance under any different set of tactical instruction thus far under Jose.
Read the thread again, plenty have said he should feck off.
