I’d say Sir Alex kind of partially ticks box two as well. You have to remember before he came along Liverpool had dominated England and Europe for two decades by going 1-0 up then spending the rest of the game passing it back to the keeper. It became that dull they had to introduce the back pass law.
It is wrong to put Pep in the same bracket as someone like Jurgen Klopp as Klopp earnt the right to be called one of the worlds best managers by starting from the bottom and working his way to the top while Pep has only ever managed the best squads with the biggest budgets.
Please do tell me about the Franco biographies that have chapters on how he ran Real Madrid.
Rafa Benitez won the CL in his first attempt at Liverpool, after having won a league title in Spain managing a team that isn't Real Madrid or Barcelona, but presumably you don't think he's one of the world's best managers.
Rafa was one of the best managers at that time, he also worked his way up from the bottom and did well to win the Champions League with Liverpool in an era where English football was dominated by big spending Chelsea and prime Mourinho.
In what way did he change how the game was played?
I agree he's not done well enough in the CL with City, but he hasn't had a unlimited transfer budget, he's clearly had limits and mostly found bargains rather than bought big.
Not sure I'd say City go and find bargains...ignoring they cheated, they do tend to get "good" prices for players but they top the wage bills and agent fees and it will be very interesting to see the details of the 115 charges because a lot of them are in relation to financials in one way or another.
It's not that they get good prices for players, it's that they very rarely go for big names, usually for players not discussed on the cafe as possible targets, and when the reports say a club asks for lots of money, they stop their interest.
I think that's a disputable charaterization.
Another car crash post, you are on a roll. To start with, no one compared SAF to Ole. Bye.
Yeah they often don’t go into a bidding war, helps having an actual DoF I guess!
Klopp has worked in clubs where he can play the underdog. And not under any pressure to win every trophy? Klopp has had a few trophyless seasons but he is not under any pressure. How will Klopp fare at Bayern, Barcelona Madrid? Clubs who must win every season and many times just winning is not even enough? We never know
It's a pretty well known fact that Madrid was the first state owned club under Generalisimo regime. I am not your dad, I can't teach you these things in detail, May be you can do some research and find out yourself how the despicable madrid gained their advantage over other clubs in Spain.
moyes, potter comes to my mind..
It's not a well-known fact at all because it isn't true. You're ignorantly repeating a half-remembered rant you heard at a bar once.
Wait for the "They sold their training grounds to the city for 500m" line.
Messi was always going to be other-worldly in all likelihood, but Pep did help him change his nutrition if I recall correctly. It led to far less nagging injuries for him.
How would Klopp fare at Bayern? He would win the league like every other manager.. Same thing at Madrid, there is hardly any pressure being a top manager in a lopsided league, it’s a bizarre argument actually to think Klopp wouldn’t do as well as Xavi at the very least.
He won a league title with Anderson and tom Cleverly which all of Europe tried to emulate. We are still trying with Fred.
He is not even the best manager in the league at the moment in my opinion, he has just been lucky to have only had the jobs he has had and to have been in charge of the richest club in the premier league during an era where the quality of it has been the one of poorist its ever been with all the other top clubs except Liverpool struggling, in transition, or rebuilding.
At Dortmund he won league titles against Bayern only to have Lewandowski and Goetze running down their contracts to join bayern on a free after the cl final. On top of that Dortmund was a feeder club to Man utd for instance. Id say trying to stay 1st when your rivals and biggest clubs elsewhere is far more difficult than managing the biggest club in the country and yeah be expected to win.
Yeah, I agree. Saying he always had money to spend is nice and all, but money isn't any good if you don't use it well to get the right players and work well with him.
He's been lucky to get the Barcelona job with little experience.
No, Real won La Liga only twice in 9 years when Ronaldo was playing despite being coached by Ancelotti, Mourinho, Pellegrini, Benitez, Zidane etc. not as easy as it seems..
It's easy to see that Pep can be the medicine to all United problems.. almost a certainty that if he starts at United and gets enough financial support (which he will at a club like United), United will be back to its glorious days.. You cannot claim the same for any other manager with the same level of certainty.. That's what makes him stand out..
In what way did they try to emulate it? I cannot tell if you are joking.
Srry. Of course i was joking.
Pep would struggle at Man Utd as he wouldnt be inheriting an already top quality side with massive funds to buy more players like he has at the 3 clubs he has managed so far.
Kinda knew it, but you can never be 100 percent sure m
How can you be sure he will succeed in a club that is not in an ideal/good situation? He never did it, others actually have. You cannot claim he can do it with any level of certainty.
I'm sure it was Pep telling him to eat his 5 a day that helped and not all the growth hormones pumped into him as a teenager. The kid was tearing it up at the age of 16, he would have been fine without Pep.
