Bit of a short sighted way of looking at it, isn't it?
Is Pochettino's time at Spurs coming to an end?
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Bit of a short sighted way of looking at it, isn't it?
Klopp's last season at Dortmund vibes. He's taken them as far as he can on a tiny net spend. I think he'll be a big success at his next club, but Spurs won't make top 4 this season.
I'd take him over Ole in a heartbeat.
Considering Spurs lack of investment, he's done an OUTSTANDING job there. They will never win trophies if they continue to under spend.
I'd take him over Ole in a heartbeat.
Considering Spurs lack of investment, he's done an OUTSTANDING job there. They will never win trophies if they continue to under spend.
I really hope we sign him to replace Ole. They do have similar style so Ole could go out on a high, saying he left Utd a good foundation.
He has done well when it comes to recruiting players but I don't know why he didn't push harder for a CM and a forward. Also, although the football we play is better then the shite under Mourinho, we still play pretty boring football. So it's a mixed bag for me and personally have doubts about Ole's ability as a manager to take us to where we want to be. But say someone like Poch becomes available, I think we should go for it because there are no other good managers available if Ole doesn't meet expectations.
Hmm, I'm not sure. I think he's taken this current group as far as it will go but if they're willing to back him in the next few windows they can still push forward under him. They will need to replace a few key players who aren't going to be around long term I'd imagine. He did sign an extension recently so I think he's definitely committed.
If he was doing a bad job it would be worth considering but so far He has cleared out players everyone on here wanted us to get rid of, the players he has brought in have been our best 3 players so shows promise for further recruitment and above all we could be 3rd in the table tomorrow and some would argue should have a few more points on the board.
Poch’s net spend is higher than Klopp’s during Klopp’s period in England.
Who cares? Manchester United isn't someone's pet project. The idea that you should only look to upgrade someone, if they're doing a bad job is moronic.
A genuine top class manager who has done very well with a young team on a very tight budget. He carries himself well and believes in giving youth a chance. Especially considering the lack of top class manager out there, Poch should very much be on our radar. People here think that we should say no to Poch but the truth is Poch will probably say no to us because of the situation the club is in,not just on the field but off the field as well
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It's a bit odd, I feel he actually got backed by Levy in the xfer window on his targets, Ndombele and GLC.
Maybe needed to move Eriksen on and get in Dybala as the replacement. Having said all that early in the season, Leicester away not easy and the Var decision was hilarious. Mostly because it was Spurs getting shafted by VAR.
Maybe needed to move Eriksen on and get in Dybala as the replacement. Having said all that early in the season, Leicester away not easy and the Var decision was hilarious. Mostly because it was Spurs getting shafted by VAR.
Christ. You would only ever think about replacing a manager if he's doing a bad job?
You do realise managing Manchester United, isn't like a job at tesco stacking shelves - where the difference between not doing a bad job and someone capable of doing a great job is negligible?
If he’s done with spurs (whether or not he jumps or is pushed), of course he would consider Utd.
I think Jose will be the next Madrid Manager, which will close off the door for Poch for 12 months. If that’s the case, he’s available and there’s a job going at Utd he would most likely accept it. Personally think we should be giving OGS the time to go through this transition.
Most managers have a shelf life at a club, it does look like he (Poch) could be heading towards the exit before the start of next season.
If Poch is available and we stick with Ole, then God help us. Same mistake which we did with Klopp,Pep,Poch(first time) , Jose.
This. I think Ole’s okayish play at the wheel. Maybe not the best results but got rid of deadwood (slowly). Secured a few decent signings. But we need to be more ruthless and if a manager like poch becomes available, we do everything in our power to get him on board.
Learn from our mistake with klopp.
There is a lot of factors, if we went with doing bad a job results wise fergie would have been long gone before everything came together for him.
Pretty sure Ole’s results are better than Fergies at this stage of his United manager career as well.
All we have are fans not willing to wait again and thinking the grass is greener with another manager when all probability it will taste the same just depends on what cows we got shitting in the field at the end of the day
Yup.
Like we did when we sacked LvG moments after he won the cup and appointed Mourinho - worked a treat.
Poch is a better manager than Ole but wtf is this rubbish with, mistake with klopp... Are people that desperate that they think Poch is anywhere near Klopp (One at Dortmund)? 
Klopp is a chequebook manager. He spend the second most in Germany when he was there.Poch is a better manager than Ole but wtf is this rubbish with, mistake with klopp... Are people that desperate that they think Poch is anywhere near Klopp (One at Dortmund)?
Poch is outspent by Everton,West Ham etc.
Let seen how Poch would get on if he could buy players for world record fees in there positions.
Still waiting for someone to present some fact why Poch is better manager? I'm not saying that he is or not. I just want to see how someone could come to that knowing that Poch has won absolutly 0 as a manager. And you can argue that he has a team that at least should have won some silverwere.
Love for a manager whose team chokes every time they're anywhere near something good is amusing but its not his fault..... (insert other people to blame)You want me to argue that he's a better manager than Ole? Are you insane?
Funny that people never want to discuss things like trophies and league finishes when it comes to Poch. Sorry pal but those things are relevant to the biggest jobs. Proving you actually have what it takes to win is as important as anything. The players brought in by Levy have been excellent, so he should be judged on what he is capable of acheiving with those players, and not just his ability to assemble them. There are plenty of progressive managers out there, the ones that do well at the big clubs are the ones that can combine that philosophy with the ability to win things.
Is he doing a better job than Poch when he first went to Spurs?
Jose is getting that
Is the league the same as it was back then ?
Because he has a great record in the PL. Judging by trophies alone is an absurd method. Chris Wilder = Poch too then?
You want me to argue that he's a better manager than Ole? Are you insane?
I want you to present some facts why he is. What has Poch won as a manager? He have/had squad full of internationals and few so called stars. He is a good manager but don't overestimate him.
Hmm, plenty do, especially when riling Spurs fans and Amadeus!
It's certainly a concern that he hasn't at least won something with Spurs yet but he is still young in managerial terms, and he's gotten very close on numerous occasions. I don't think it's unrealistic to say he'll make that final step up sooner or later.
About the same trophy wise not that Old has even had close to a full season yet to change that. Poch definitely can’t change his first season.
Just look at both of their managerial histories and go from there.
Klopp lost the CL.
They then went out and spent big.
You just cant compare the backing he has got compared to Poch.
We're things really looking great, yes CL final was a great achievement but it was clear Spurs not only peaked and stagnated but declined as far as week by week consistency was concerned.
I think Pochettino knew it hence his comments about walking away had they won the final.
Yes and we should do it again and again.. But let's make sure we get it right.
We'll see, Poch got 14 points from his first 11 games before things started to turn.
yes?
I don't think you answered my question..
Lets ignore beating Bayern to their leagues and cups....He lost the final and poch did what?...... I am not even Klopp's biggest fan but you're deluding yourself if you think poch is anywhere near Dortmund Klopp forget about pool.Came third in a 2 horse race in which Leicester fecking city won the league but its ok....Leicester spent billions..right?
A couple of very good points.
Utd have won three trophies since Fergie left, spurs presumably have won zero?
I do wonder how much input he has over transfers, it doesn’t sound like he has much, so he wouldn’t bring that to Utd.
He certainty seems to get given a free pass over the lack of trophies. It’s a big weakness.
For both of those reasons I would NOT swap him for OGS. If there was a vacancy at OT, it would be a different matter.
He’s clearly done a good job at spurs - but if he goes after 5 years and didn’t win a single trophy, surely that’s a big failure?
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