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Is there a place for Rashford as a regular starter?
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"Adjusting their sporting technique" doesn't mean the player can be lazy or stop working hard?
RVP mentioned to just "rest and let it heal" and "have to be really careful" - so is Rashford "rest" enough or not? If not then he need to rest more, for his sake and Man UTD sake. If he already rested enough then it's no excuse, if he can't play well or can't work hard for whatever reason he needs to up his form or be dropped.
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Can you point me somewhere in all your "fact" that said Rashford can't be dropped or need "month" to play into form? I am sure you can't because it's not there.
The original argument is simple: He looks lazy, disinterested, he doesn't work hard, his decision making is terrible right now, and he should improve his form fast or be dropped for other as we are not Rashford FC. You don't get to make up your own strawman and defeat it, I never said he was not injured.
And if you want to go for "technically" and "accuracy" then you need to post an article with detail injury of Rashford, instead of a generic article about his type of injury, as people's bodies are different. You should know that if you actually "study medicine".
You can also notice that the RVP interview and your video are both from Jan 2020, and we are now close to Jan 2022, it has been 2 years. You can keep using the injury to excuse Rashford, that's your right but it doesn't mean other have to follow. And before your "But he was overplayed!!" - look up for the original argument.
I know enough about the typical formulaic PR post (strong point at start+"convincing" argument/source+some witty line) so my post is for other people mostly.
He deleted that post. I wonder why...
I deleted that post because I made a new one.
So you cant see why a footballer hasn't got to adjust his sport technique in 9 games
games where he has come on as a sub, come off as a sub and played in his wrong position.Damn that IQ is insane!!
Then RVP says its a Injury that doesn't even get better - that it can always stay as a weakpoint! That RVP still feels his injury at the age he is right now possibly nearly 40. What does that mean? He needs to adapt his sport technique
anyone who has followed RVP's career knows that he did exactly that. Mad stuff.And no I'm not saying Rashford should be played in to form- let him be dropped.
But there is absolutely cnuts here saying he has never done this, never done that, that he has always been shit and needs to be sold.
Absolute rubbish.
Now don't talk to me.
You win.
Not a single bit of proof with what you right but I wrote 3.
The fact that you keep rambling about "adjust his sport technique" while I make it clear in my post, several times, it was about "lazy and stop working hard" mean you don't even have an argument to begin with.So you cant see why a footballer hasn't got to adjust his sport technique in 9 games
Damn that IQ is insane!!
Then RVP says its a Injury that doesn't even get better - that it can always stay as a weakpoint! That RVP still feels his injury at the age he is right now possibly nearly 40. What does that mean? He needs to adapt his sport technique
Yes we know about RVP injury, but he only get to play for us when he can manage his injury to produce actual result week in week out in the field. Still when his form or his bodies can't keep up anymore he was sold. If any, the RVP argument actually support my point that Rashford right now is not good enough for the regular position in our team than your points/excuses.
Good start.
Not me. I was a big fan or Rashford. He was a great young player with lot of potential and a hard worker, he was really special. But now he play like Ronaldo at the prime but without his talent.
And you can't group "he has never done this, never done that, that he has always been shit" and "needs to be sold" as if they are the same. The former is objectively wrong as Rashford used to be (at least) very good, the later is reasonable if he keep on his current trend of laziness and disinterested.
You can cite 1000 sources but if it lack the necessary technical detail to actually support your point, then all your "source" is meaningless. As I said, if you want to go technical let's go technical. You can't half-ass science.
If you need "proof" to see that the current Rashford is lazy and not a hard worker then it's on you, not me.
But why? You are a full member, you don't have post limit like us pleb. But honestly I can guess why.
My post is not to about any "winning" again you, as I know what you are about with all the Rashford stuff.
Whether you have been pro-Rashford or not in the past its quite clear that he currently isnt at the required level and wasn't at the required level last season either. Regardless of reasons. We want to be at the elite level and we are quick to point out the deficiencies and lack of elite in other areas of the pitch (and the dugout) so to continue to defend Rashford seems at best a little strange. When was the last time he had a sustained level of performances that suggests he would be an integral name on the team sheet for a title winning side, which is presumably what we want to be?
We talk about Ronaldo and people talk about a lack of running and involvement but that he is the player you would most want a chance to fall to if you needed a win. Rashford for me currently is the opposite, he will run but thats about all you are getting and there seems question marks over that too.
Ive also seen people react badly to the "he needs to focus on his football" narrative but for me what needs to happen is that we as FANS need to focus on his football. Never mind that he is a lovely guy, never mind his off the field impact, never mind that he is a local lad and United fan lets judge him on what he's doing on the pitch - its not good enough and hasn't been for a long time.
We talk about Ronaldo and people talk about a lack of running and involvement but that he is the player you would most want a chance to fall to if you needed a win. Rashford for me currently is the opposite, he will run but thats about all you are getting and there seems question marks over that too.
Ive also seen people react badly to the "he needs to focus on his football" narrative but for me what needs to happen is that we as FANS need to focus on his football. Never mind that he is a lovely guy, never mind his off the field impact, never mind that he is a local lad and United fan lets judge him on what he's doing on the pitch - its not good enough and hasn't been for a long time.
I prefer Rashfold of old (or young?) when he was an exciting talent, you didn't know what you'd get out of him but you can bet he'll be making those runs and try to score a goal. He looks like he tends to overthink everything these days. Perhaps it explains why he plays better in a counter attack, he doesn't have a lot of time to think when that happens. That being said I don't believe he lost those talents overnight.
If we sell Lingard and Martial, do we need another right winger? Finally our chance to get Adama Traore!
Rashford can still flourish if he focuses 100% on his football like elite footballers and then he would need a technician to get the best out of him.
i still think he is a SS because he can run behind CBs and doesnt have creativy enough for a top winger.
i still think he is a SS because he can run behind CBs and doesnt have creativy enough for a top winger.
People talk about his running behind the defence. I think he has lost his pace. I think it was against Norwich or CP(cannot remember which one) that he stared in an offside position but still lost the foot race. He does not seem to have that pace anymore.
To be fair , Ole was a dead man walking when he said that so fans were going to abuse him for anything. Rangnick would get no real criticism for dropping a player clearly out of form.
I am no medical expert so I wont get into it as we seem to have some have some world renown experts on both sides here.
I will say this though. We are the greatest club in the world and sometimes we act like the pub team who wont drop their best mate. If the reason Rashford is playing badly ( not sure myself) is this injury that needs a long rehabilitation before he is back to his best, is he really worth all that investment?
I will tell you one thing . Im 100% sure SAF would not have waited. He would have moved him on and rebuilt as he did so often. We seemed to accept this much more easily when we were all conquering but now glorify mediocrity because they were on a good run 2 years ago.
If its not injury related, give him a rest, bench him and when he comes on play him on the blooming left as he really cant play anywhere else. If he gets him form back he can do a job there but if he doesnt Im sorry but its good luck and goodbye.
I will say this though. We are the greatest club in the world and sometimes we act like the pub team who wont drop their best mate. If the reason Rashford is playing badly ( not sure myself) is this injury that needs a long rehabilitation before he is back to his best, is he really worth all that investment?
I will tell you one thing . Im 100% sure SAF would not have waited. He would have moved him on and rebuilt as he did so often. We seemed to accept this much more easily when we were all conquering but now glorify mediocrity because they were on a good run 2 years ago.
If its not injury related, give him a rest, bench him and when he comes on play him on the blooming left as he really cant play anywhere else. If he gets him form back he can do a job there but if he doesnt Im sorry but its good luck and goodbye.
These thinly-veiled swipes at his activism are a bit tiring; most footballers keep pretty outside their day jobs - Rashford just happens to choose a pretty noble thing to focus on. The more worrying thing, in my opinion, is that he just might not be that good. He certainly hasn't kicked on the way in the way we all expected him to.
Good post, but watch out, Rashford FC will be after you.
All he needs to do is simply massively improve literally every aspect of his game
The Adama Traore with no goals and no assists this season?
Adama Traore: No goals and no assists, why is Wolves winger struggling to make an impact? - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59632176
All the players get a clean slate. The likes of Rashford have never gotten top level coaching since lvg left. Give Ralf 3 mths with him then judge him.
A sustained spell on the bench and time with a good coach to focus and direct him. He looks listless at the moment but there’s enough talent and raw physical attributes to get him back to the menace he was.
I don’t buy for one minute that his activism is the problem. Injuries, poor management, and the dilemma of his best position are far more to blame
I don’t buy for one minute that his activism is the problem. Injuries, poor management, and the dilemma of his best position are far more to blame
I've said it before but if our goal is to challenge for titles he's simply not good enough. Sorry if this offends anyone but sadly it's the truth. He's not a kid anymore and only a few years away from being in his prime age for a footballer. In Greenwood I see a different type of talent, someone who can definitely be counted on, two footed, better all around play and much better finishing also much younger.
Manchester United and England forward Marcus Rashford, 24, is open to signing for Barcelona.
I actually laughed when I read this, but good luck to him and them if he goes. He is not cutting it at United, at the moment, and I'm not sure he or we know exactly what sort of player he is. So maybe this will re-awaken his interest or whatever needs.
0/10 chance of it happening.
I actually laughed when I read this, but good luck to him and them if he goes. He is not cutting it at United, at the moment, and I'm not sure he or we know exactly what sort of player he is. So maybe this will re-awaken his interest or whatever needs.
0/10 chance of it happening.
Whether people want to accept it or not but he is becoming more of a problem than a solution for us and that’s not based on this season alone. He isn’t a teenager anymore and he isn’t inexperienced . He is 24 with 6 years of top level senior football under his belt. He is more experienced than many 26-27 yrs old. When should the penny drop ? Or we just let it slide and give him a free pass forever meanwhile pointing fingers at other players for the same issues regarding lack of effort and inconsistencies?
I look at bayern wingers Gnabry, Coman, Sane and then I look at rashford. I thought he was a level above those 3-4 yrs back.They might not have hit rashford numbers in a season but you see the consistency in their game. Rashford haven’t even got the basics right. Him entering the final third everytime and suddenly becoming clueless and comically losing the ball everytime is a work of art that would leave your mouth open. The guy needs to spend a lot of time on the training pitch like a lot. He needs to be really serious and careful here because he might not realise it but he is in danger of turning from an asset to a liability. Time is ticking and it doesn’t wait for anyone and neither should Manchester United if we want to be where we should be.
I look at bayern wingers Gnabry, Coman, Sane and then I look at rashford. I thought he was a level above those 3-4 yrs back.They might not have hit rashford numbers in a season but you see the consistency in their game. Rashford haven’t even got the basics right. Him entering the final third everytime and suddenly becoming clueless and comically losing the ball everytime is a work of art that would leave your mouth open. The guy needs to spend a lot of time on the training pitch like a lot. He needs to be really serious and careful here because he might not realise it but he is in danger of turning from an asset to a liability. Time is ticking and it doesn’t wait for anyone and neither should Manchester United if we want to be where we should be.
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I can see a Lingard-esque ‘he’s young, he’ll come good’ refrain start to build for Rashford here very soon.
Rashford in the Bundesliga would be absolutely insane.
All that space given by the German DNA high line.
Just was thinking about how low Rashford is viewed by United fans and was wondering how some United fans think so highly of Timo Werner who has not had a single season of Rashford's.
Literally just a month since he turned from 23 to 24 and people are saying he is too old and useless.
Love you Rashford! Good enjoyable young player that has just gone from Plan A to Plan B.
So so so many players out of form - either a drop of level compared to last seasons performances, some not even available, or have never been in form ever - Shaw, Maguire, Wan Bissaka, Bruno, VDB, Martial, Cavani, Sancho, Pogba etc -
Yet people act like Rashford is the only one who is performing shit.
No replies please. I moan more so often at the fans than I do at the players every chance I get.
All that space given by the German DNA high line.
Just was thinking about how low Rashford is viewed by United fans and was wondering how some United fans think so highly of Timo Werner who has not had a single season of Rashford's.
Literally just a month since he turned from 23 to 24 and people are saying he is too old and useless.
Love you Rashford! Good enjoyable young player that has just gone from Plan A to Plan B.
So so so many players out of form - either a drop of level compared to last seasons performances, some not even available, or have never been in form ever - Shaw, Maguire, Wan Bissaka, Bruno, VDB, Martial, Cavani, Sancho, Pogba etc -
Yet people act like Rashford is the only one who is performing shit.
No replies please. I moan more so often at the fans than I do at the players every chance I get.
Rashford doesn't think enough. Plays too much on instinct.
Xavi will kill him in his first training session with Barca
Rashford is going to cost Barcelona all the money so there is no chance of this happening, period
Hence I gave it 0/10 of happening.
Xavi will kill him in his first training session with Barca
This below average manager that can barely strike a win
If the injuries issues are long term, ship him out
His performances are irregular, so why should he be a regular?
Just out of interest - who has regular performances for United?
Bullshit and hyperbole in here imo.
Selling Rashford...well of course. I know where you guys're coming from but you should all agree that he has the special moment in ihm all the time. He could well explode in 22 for Club&Country.
A lot poster in here will prefer to hammer him after every missplaced pass or shot. I for one will continue to support him and help him to fulfill his potential. And it's not even about Mason vs Marcus as I'm sure the lads can and will play togerher.
Selling Rashford...well of course. I know where you guys're coming from but you should all agree that he has the special moment in ihm all the time. He could well explode in 22 for Club&Country.
A lot poster in here will prefer to hammer him after every missplaced pass or shot. I for one will continue to support him and help him to fulfill his potential. And it's not even about Mason vs Marcus as I'm sure the lads can and will play togerher.
He’s been a regular for six years. Still talking about “potential” is a red flag. Yes he’s ‘only’ 24 but he’s had enough exposure and experience that he should be well on his way to looking like the well-rounded, top-level footballer we hoped him to be. I’m sorry but it’s delusional to think he’s anywhere close and that’s a worry for an increasing number of fans
This is a thread about Rashford not Werner, who do you expect people to be talking about? I haven't seen the fanbase not criticising the other players either in fact Maguire, Shaw and Wan Bissaka have come in for a particular hammering. Again though Rashford is the topic of the thread.
"No replies please"? Hilarious.
On current form no chance, he’s been terrible since coming back. On his day he’s a great player but like many of our squad they lack consistency and the good performances are few and far between.
And again, discuss about him all you want but the absolute cnuts who want to leave are not getting their Xmas present!! Loving it elvis!!!
I think his link-up play needs to improve. It would improve his lower level and raise his ceiling. His biggest issue is that he is so poor on an off day. Improving his link-up play (and his decision making some) would help alot.
I really think he has been awful coached for the greater part of his professional career. Currently, he is far from reaching his potential.
I really think he has been awful coached for the greater part of his professional career. Currently, he is far from reaching his potential.
People comparing rashford to players who have not contributed nearly as much to their teams. Last season he was terrible and contributed a crap ton of goals and assists. Does that not warrant a chance to settle? He is far and away a critical problem in this team.
The manager is asking an obvious bum to line winger. To play with his back to goal which is odd. Personally I am seeing flaws with Ragnick, hopefully he can adjust his tactics to his players and not the other way round. Personally his comments about Greenwood were also alarming. I think Ragnicks time here may end up in tears, still give him benefit of the doubt and back RR.
Not sure there is even such a thing as a 'regular starter'. Ronaldo is the only striker we have at the club that resmebles that description, the rest rotate as necessary.
Greenwood, Rashford, Sancho and Cavani are pretty much equal in the pecking order. You could throw Martial and Lingard in that group I guess.
Greenwood, Rashford, Sancho and Cavani are pretty much equal in the pecking order. You could throw Martial and Lingard in that group I guess.
He’s starting to morph into Lingard mk. 2 with his potential.
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