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Yes but that has been the Saudi position for more than twenty years. The question here is Netanyahu’s willingness to amend an ideological position he’s consistently held to his entire life, through turbulent wars and politics. It’s not impossible that he may do so but we have no evidence of it as yet, and no reason to give him the benefit of the doubt as things stand.
He's throwing a bone to the MAGA base who have so far largely rejected him in favor of Trump.It would be amusing if he was prosecuted for that tweet.
Thats an interesting tweet. Israel gov wont be happy with that. Hopefully it will help get humanitarian aid into gaza.
My guess would be that this a major consieration on his part, the Saudi's are trying to rehabilitate their image and transform the country in to a business and tourist hub, getting concessions from Israel would help that goal immensely
Its actually consistent with the Israeli government have been saying, as its also in their interests to say the same from a PA (as in public relations) perspective.
Won't work though
Interesting given that EFPs are largely synonymous with Iran. They were used with significant success in Iraq in the late 2000s.
It's a bullshit statement
He has the power to force Israel to halt until operations can be conducted in a decent manner, and civilians of Gaza are protected.
I don’t understand why they would bring them in to Israel.
He actually doesn't, but even if he did, he wouldn't given that the American public are firmly behind supporting Israel here. Therefore, an attempt by Biden to stop the Israelis from reacting would be a disaster for him back home.
Guess I'm missing something - why would he be prosecuted for that tweet?It would be amusing if he was prosecuted for that tweet.
Israel can dislike it as much as they want. What they gonna do? They need US more than a child needs a father.
The absolute shamelessness. Sorry if posted before.
I quoted the wrong post? It was about a german saying that he was ashamed about the fact that criticism of Israel was illegal in Germany or something to that effect.
Okay, that makes more sense. It would be, yeah.
One week too late for the senile twat.
I don't get these things and it's the same with the very similar backtracking from Macron. Why are they backtracking? We know what they said, we know how they act and how they will act, so why do they think that they are fooling anyone? That also applies to the EU, who made a 180 on their initial response and are acting as if they were shocked by how things are moving.
They are really convinced that people are complete imbeciles, aren't they?
They probably don't need the US in the short to medium term of invading Gaza, given the military assets that they have.
Whenever Emily Thornberry is giving an answer or statement she knows is bullshit or evasive, she always shuts her eyes when talking. Keep an eye out for it.
From what Hamas captives told Israeli investigators- the plan was much broader than what they did achieve, as remarkable as that was for them.
They were supposed to cause havoc also in central Israel, had they seen their plan through.
For this to happen, I presume, you're going to need a few of your men who will make it this far out of Gaza,
to have some very very serious weapons with them that they could shoot from afar, aiming at shopping malls, skyscrapers, etc.
I guess that's what the more advanced weaponry was for.
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Do we really want to go there? It's obviously not true in a million different ways.
I don't think they realized how far it would have gone and how many civilians would suffer as a result of the inhumane treatment from the IDF. This is just damage control. Fake outrage now is just for show so that they're not implicated but the damage is already done. There's no rewind button and there's nothing they can say that can repair the damage.
Shouldn't be much of an issue if he follows the Saudi mantra of separating head from body.
I think that they knew how it would go but more importantly if you give your unconditional support, you have a duty to consider the worst outcome. So it's laughable that it took this lot 2 days to change their communication.
I didn't realise he was a scholar of Descartes.
I'm suddenly intrigued by something-
do we have any lawyers on board?
I'm seeing so many Facebook posts/tweets by Israelis calling for Bibi's head,
calling him a son of a bitch, wishing death on him...
I don't have social media so I didn't join the party, but I can imagine myself writing something similar.
Can a politician sue me for calling them a son of a bitch (when they are clearly not it)? and actually win in court?
If it's on my Facebook then my name will be there, and my picture will likely be there...
won't that be slander? libel? something to that effect?
do we have any lawyers on board?
I'm seeing so many Facebook posts/tweets by Israelis calling for Bibi's head,
calling him a son of a bitch, wishing death on him...
I don't have social media so I didn't join the party, but I can imagine myself writing something similar.
Can a politician sue me for calling them a son of a bitch (when they are clearly not it)? and actually win in court?
If it's on my Facebook then my name will be there, and my picture will likely be there...
won't that be slander? libel? something to that effect?
These border skirmishes with Hezbollah don't seem to go away.
Depends on the country's laws. I know Italy is (to pick one example) a country where that can happen.
Despite the UK's strict libel laws, it is politically unacceptable to sue members of the general public for even extreme criticism. So a lot also depends on convention and what is perceived as a permissible thing for a politician to do.
How does the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces not have the power to halt military support to Israel, changing the calculus on the ground? Congress control the purse, yes.
On your second point, I don't think that's true that most Americans support Gaza being leveled in violation of international law. They support Hamas being eliminated, but unless you're conflating AIPAC with the American public I don't think Americans would have issues if the show of support was reined in and more conditional.
Happens every time. Either folk have short memories or do t pay attention.
Israel goes in and gets support. It bombs the shit out of an area. Then a few days later we get the backtracking. Incidentally just before the ground war. Then it calms down and Israel get money etc.
Rinse and repeat everytime
Yeah, it was the one.
Anyone shed lights on the reports that Israel oversees all aid going into Gaza.
With food, They basically count the people, work out the calories and give it on that basis.
They calorie count?
With food, They basically count the people, work out the calories and give it on that basis.
They calorie count?
Hence the infamous comments about putting the Palestinians on a "diet".
They're backtracking because the nations of the BRICS block said the opposite.
Money that has been appropriated for Israel has already happened.. Just like the story of Biden building border wall fence from a couple of weeks ago, Biden was forced to do it because the funds were appropriated under Trump. Same thing with foreign aid, which has been appropriated by Congress. But its a moot point given that Biden is all in on Israel, so what you're suggesting would be unlikely even if he could do something about it.
The more and more I learn about "everyday" life in Gaza the more I wonder why things like what transpired doesn't happen more.
Before I get slated I'm not justifying Hamas here or giving them credence.
I'm talking the general populace simply kicking off.
It's surreal