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Yeah, did he read them? Or he just has them.
Sky missed out two words. It's supposed to say 'he has reads there's over 25 books on the Israel Palestine conflict'.
Okay guys, looking at the peace plan, I have a question. How long do you think it is before Palestine is just a memory and Al aqsa is taken back as a temple rather than a mosque? Do you think this is something that's completely possible in the near future or is it absurd?
In town halls he has said he is committed to Israel as a Jewish state, I don't think he'll move on that (he spent a year at a kibbutz a million years ago).
To me, this deal is so blatantly one sided that it's designed to be rejected by the Palestinians and (I'd imagine) then used to pin the blame on them for being uncooperative.
- Jewish Settlements in West Bank become legitimised. Land compensated by useless, arid land near the border with Egypt.
- Whole of Jerusalem, undivided, under Israel's control
- Palestine a demilitarised puppet state that can't protect its borders from further land grabs and can't control it's own trade (I assume, like now, trade will be under strict Israeli inspections to prevent flow of weapons into Palestine).
In essence it offers nothing to Palestinians apart from recognition of a state that has none of the powers of an actual state and just legitimises the status quo.
- Jewish Settlements in West Bank become legitimised. Land compensated by useless, arid land near the border with Egypt.
- Whole of Jerusalem, undivided, under Israel's control
- Palestine a demilitarised puppet state that can't protect its borders from further land grabs and can't control it's own trade (I assume, like now, trade will be under strict Israeli inspections to prevent flow of weapons into Palestine).
In essence it offers nothing to Palestinians apart from recognition of a state that has none of the powers of an actual state and just legitimises the status quo.
Read the deal yesterday. A complete farce.
What's going to happen to the Water Mosque?
Al aqsa will remain a mosque under the supervision of both Israel and Jordan and Muslims will be allowed a safe passage.
But my question is, for how long?
Nice picture
The Palestinians are always getting betrayed by the Arabs. First by Emir Hussein who was willing to support the Balfour declaration of he was made king of Arabia. But the British and French rejected it and he was stabbed in the back.
Now the Saudis are betraying the Palestinians because they want to be in charge of All Aqsa mosque. So long as the house of saud is alive as and running Saudi Arabia there will be no peace in Islam. They are a curse
Now the Saudis are betraying the Palestinians because they want to be in charge of All Aqsa mosque. So long as the house of saud is alive as and running Saudi Arabia there will be no peace in Islam. They are a curse
Palestinians cut all ties with US and Israel over ‘arrogance’ of Jared Kushner’s ‘peace’ deal
Kushner. how the feck the most sensitive political conflict peace deal is handed to him? how is he qualified to carry such a major major job? Are the US government stupid?
Does this really need answering?
Well i'm guessing Estate Developers do not make great middle east negotiators .
I take it back
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51477231
UN names 112 businesses that are linked to the illegal settlements.
Israel calls the list "shameless". I agree.
Named & shamed.
UN names 112 businesses that are linked to the illegal settlements.
Israel calls the list "shameless". I agree.
Named & shamed.
Greedy companies they deserve to be shamed.
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A couple of recent examples of Israeli taxi firms refusing to pick up Arab customers/ offering a service to only be picked up by Jewish drivers for those who flinch at any kind of apartheid comparison.
Netanyahu looks like he's in the lead again.
Netanyahu looks like he's in the lead again.
Not near future but I think it will happen unfortunately. Time only favours expansionists within Israel.
As soon as the Nationality Bill was passed this was openly the direction of travel, if it had been covertly before.
People are idiots everywhere in the world, and Israel is no different.
Looked up reports on these incidents and found that these practises are illegal under Israeli law. One taxi firm got convicted for breaching anti-discrimination laws, another one just got sued. The reports say it's impossible for these companies to openly practise this stuff, so it has to be attempted under the guise of other (legal) reasons.
So examples of racism, which I'm sure there's a shit ton of. But apartheid means these practises being institutionalized and legalized, and, at least when it comes to these particular incidents, the opposite seems to be the case.
What was it?
Looks like the end for Netanyahu
It’s actually quite incredible. Gantz could not have this chance without support of both the largely Arab and left-wing Joint List and right-wing firebrand Lieberman.
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It’s actually quite incredible. Gantz could not have this chance without support of both the largely Arab and left-wing Joint List and right-wing firebrand Lieberman.
Bye bye, Bibi!Not quite yet. Gantz now has the first chance to form a government, but it’ll be tough to do so from such a diverse crowd. His best bet may be to convince the Likud to turn on Netanyahu, but there’s been little signs of that happening yet. As things stand his best shot is a minority government supported from the outside by the Joint List, which would be a similar set-up to the Rabin Labour-led coalition of the 90s. But a fourth election is not out of the question.
Whatever happens though, the real positive product of this entire election saga has been the hands-on activism and political engagement of Israeli Arabs and their representatives in the process. Their rise as a serious political faction has the potential to bring into sharp relief for Israelis the reality of the direction the country has been headed for a while now. It’s unprecedented, and they’re fortunate to have a figure like Ayman Odeh as their face. He strikes me as the most impressive Arab politician of his generation.
Benny Gantz capitulated, broke up his own party to form unity government with Likud. Massive victory for Netanyahu. Gantz is supposed to become PM in 18 months but no way Netanyahu will let things get that far:
Looks like the now tiny Labour Party May also join, which will at least ensure that Netanyahu will feel much less pressure to cave in to right-wing demands.
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Looks like the now tiny Labour Party May also join, which will at least ensure that Netanyahu will feel much less pressure to cave in to right-wing demands.
That semi-yank woman looks very well-fed and comfortable. Good.
just saw the news with netanyahu. bolsonaro and trump are all flash, burning brightly but perhaps for not too long, bibi is an eternal master. he's in a country with a proportional system and still can never be beaten.
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At one time a ridiculously successful party, similar in its initial success to our Congress party. They even had their fall in the same year (1977).
Probably for the best if a new left is to emerge which is willing to embrace the Arab parties. Labour had a resurgence during the 90s but the second intifada absolutely killed them.