That's fair and I have also called out antisemitic content on this thread. I'm not saying there is no antisemitic content on here and I hope its always called out and reported every time its posted.
I absolutely agree with everything you have just said.
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I have to be honest and say I don't recognise this characterisation of either poster.
These two things seem like a big contradiction to me.
Really? In a moment of fear, anguish and anger it’s quite possible to have feelings and thoughts which you later come to reevaluate.
It's been 5 months.
Not sure why I’m speaking for Amir but it reads as if the first paragraph was his immediate reaction to the event. Is he still saying he wants his security back no matter what? When was the last time he said that?
This is the post I am referring to. If I've misunderstood somehow then I apologise, but I found it pretty shocking given your posting history.
I believe that was Owlo who said that. apologies if I'm myself am mistaken.
How do you think the average Gazan has felt since 2005?
How would you feel if this was my retort to October 7th? That it's a war and innocent people get hurt?
So how should the surviving Gazans respond to the indiscriminate horror of the last 5 months?
He said it a month after the events, when the israeli crimes were in the open for all to see, that's hardly an immediate reaction.
As much of the comments are very bad, we should leave space for growing. I think there is an obvious change of perspective and not everybody goes at the same speed
Can't speak for him,
Yes, exactly.
It's pretty simple, Palestinians never have the right to feel the same anger and sense of revenge. All the terror and lack of security they have been facing for a long time anywhere on their land should be met with suffering in silence.
Please, keep posting here, as much as you can.
Nothing in his recent posts tells me he changed his perspective to the point I would be capable of overlooking what he wrote.
Who do you mean by "everyone from the other side"? Because 3 months after hamas' terrorist attack, children in gaza were being slaughtered by the hundreds every single week. When something on that scale is happening, I don't have much sympathy for someone who justifies their acceptance of this with "I haven't cooled down yet".
I don't. It's a shameful, scummy comment. Stop and actually think for a moment what he actually fecking said. I would never, ever think that ethnic cleansing was a solution to any situation, it's just batshit insane.
I thought I was going crazy reading this justification. It's basically how we got so much genocidal rhetoric coming from inside Israel for months and it hasn't stopped by the way. Being right in the midst of it isn't an excuse, it's probably more reason to see the insanity of it and not be part of it.
No, I don't agree. I said or at the very least thought to myself the most horrible things you can imagine.
that's good.
Well, i think his comments toned down quite bit and there are points that shows he unequivocally things that what is happening in gaza is wrong. And not giving space grow only create a feck you reaction.
I notice that this response has been largely ignored... Wouldn't want that cognitive dissonance to be dealt with now, would we?
Questions no one wants to answer with honesty and with the same logic and justification.
Me neither, but some people had grown in a warped reality that is not easy to escape
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Yeah, it doesn't mean I want it or support it, just that I fear that this will never end unless the Israelis and the Palestenians somehow go their seperate ways.
Pretty terrible, I'm sure. What have they done to try and improve their situation?
I would feel that you're an absolute idiot. Hamas's attack on IDF posts was one thing. But it also chose to go into towns who would have only had civilians.
I've no idea how to respond to that.
Oren is great. His whole channel is worth see.
It is possible, yes. But there is not much reevaluation in that post.
