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In actual fact juventus had quite a few chances and i'm pretty sure this game would look close on xG, but damn if this wasn't and didn't feel like an absolute demolition
 

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In actual fact juventus had quite a few chances and i'm pretty sure this game would look close on xG, but damn if this wasn't and didn't feel like an absolute demolition
Not that close, or at least the stats are looking consistent with the score line. Double the big chances (6-3) and a comfortable xG margin.

 

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In actual fact juventus had quite a few chances and i'm pretty sure this game would look close on xG, but damn if this wasn't and didn't feel like an absolute demolition
So, as I said before, Juve did not get punished in a way that stops them from making CL. But that awful loss has cost them a chance to make up the difference in the last two.
 

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So, as I said before, Juve did not get punished in a way that stops them from making CL. But that awful loss has cost them a chance to make up the difference in the last two.
Yes, though it must be said that 10 points is a lot. Dock City 10 points and they're behind Arsenal for example. Newcastle, behind Brighton. Chelsea, getting relegated. Etc...

It speaks to how ridiculous juventus have been in getting to 69 points(which they 100% did not deserve based on performances) and how bad the top 4 race has been with teams dropping so many points in such bad fashion(Inter in particular should be like 12 points better than they are, Milan kept doing full team rotatiom before CL while having zero depth, Roma's very crappy strikers and injuries, etc)
My Milan still has a chance for top4.
It would be a major failure if they don't. Basically only have to beat Hellas at home. They're a bit of a bogey team historically, but in Verona, not at home, and they beat them in Verona last year too in the final stretch to win the league...
 

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I don’t think he planned on staying long at Napoli. Hasn’t even got any residence there from what I’ve read

I actually think it isn’t a bad idea for both parties to part
 

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I don’t think he planned on staying long at Napoli. Hasn’t even got any residence there from what I’ve read

I actually think it isn’t a bad idea for both parties to part
Consider the Napoli fans wanted him gone so badly before the season started they offered to recover his stolen bike if he quit...
 

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It would be a major failure if they don't. Basically only have to beat Hellas at home. They're a bit of a bogey team historically, but in Verona, not at home, and they beat them in Verona last year too in the final stretch to win the league...
Not if they lose to Juve and Atalanta win their last two games. It will come down to GD then. Or is it head to head in Serie A?
 

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why though ?
well it was a bit of a boutade

anyway, Napoli had a shot at the league last year too, but they dropped ball twice in winter and spring. Many felt the head to head Milan and Inter ended the season with should've really been a three way finish.
 

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Also, Spalletti can be unnerving to listen to =D

Touchy prickly Tuscan, well meaning, funny, but hella proud and long-winded
 
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Oh and it wasn't a bike - it was a Fiat Panda :^D

Which wasn't returned, so he bought another one... which one morning after the scudetto he found in the parking lot with a new paint job

 

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Good luck to the three Serie A teams playing for European trophies in the next two weeks! :wenger:

In the meantime, Juventus is playing a cat and mouse game with Mr “honest-football-for-the-masses” Ceferin and his Middle Eastern masters, with FIGC head Mr Gravina now acting as UEFA vice-president. It seems that Juve’s owner Elkann still thinks it is worth waiting for the EU pronunciation in July about the SuperLeague feasibility, so UEFA is now blatantly blackmailing the club with further sanctions if he does not desist before that.


edit: I am adding that the same exact allegations costing us points and prospective bans were settled with fines to Inter and Milan 20 years ago.
 

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hey @Bepi !

I beg your pardon but I'm still nonplussed by all your political intrigue takes...

...yet, there's one thing I wanted to relay to you:

While I still think that Juventus deserves though punishment from what surfaced so far,
I'm *definitely* non-plussed about the justice-delivery-time, to say so, this whole thing ended up taking.

Which is to say, starting an investigation in autumn, indicting and trialling in winter, appealing in spring, and feckin delivery the final judgment exactly half-a-hour before your antepenultimate game of the season, that is FECKIN NUTS, a bloody disservice to your team and to all the other competitors.
 

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Roma lose after conceding two goals in the last five minutes. That's their chances of top 4 over.
 

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hope Roma win the Europa so they can have the same season for a third year running ending with winning the CL
 

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Big game tonight between Juventus and Milan for the last CL spot... Milan just took the lead with Giroud. Great header.

Juventus has to win this (preferably by 2 goals margin) to stay in the race.
 
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Juventus pretty much have to win by 2+ goals to have any chance

Milan playing Verona at home next and if they have the H2H they will only need a draw
 

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Milan in CL then.

That's if there aren't any more suprises from the judges
 

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Starting to think Chiesa's been crazy overrated after that season he had a few years ago. Headless chicken at the moment.
 

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Starting to think Chiesa's been crazy overrated after that season he had a few years ago. Headless chicken at the moment.
Came back from a serious injury and Allegri is really not the right manager for him

That said yeah, at the moment he still has everything to prove. He's genuinely scary to watch as an opponent though, the tools are there
 

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Starting to think Chiesa's been crazy overrated after that season he had a few years ago. Headless chicken at the moment.
He was quite good with Fiorentina and had a good first season with Juventus (Pirlo)… It’s bizarre now with him back from ACL + Allegri being a catastrophe for all of their attacking players. Di Maria looks quite average with Juve most of the time compared to his normal level…
 

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He was quite good with Fiorentina and had a good first season with Juventus (Pirlo)… It’s bizarre now with him back from ACL + Allegri being a catastrophe for all of their attacking players. Di Maria looks quite average with Juve most of the time compared to his normal level…
So was Bernardeschi, hyped as the future of Italian football. Transfered to Juve and was basically just phoning it in in the last few seasons. Di Maria's 35 so i kinda get why he's not good anymore.
 

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So was Bernardeschi, hyped as the future of Italian football. Transfered to Juve and was basically just phoning it in in the last few seasons. Di Maria's 35 so i kinda get why he's not good anymore.
Ok. Could be… But 35 year old Di Maria looked much better than this for PSG and for Argentina… Vlahovic looked much better before joining Allegri as well.

And honestly I don’t remember considering Bernardeschi a good enough player for a top club. Chiesa before Allegri looked like that kind of player. I want to see him at another club or with Juve playing a different football before I can judge him.
 

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Chiesa is talented but he probably would thrive at another club in Italy.
 

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Allegri should not be managing at all. Can’t think of a single player that has flourished under him or even performed at their best
 

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Juve bargained a deal with zero penalties and a paltry € 800k fine for cooking the books on COVID wage savings, in exchange for renouncing the option of further appeal in their other "plusvalenze" trial.
Classy Serie A
Second time in 17 years they dodge relegation (in '06 they should've gone to C, not B).