Is it time to burst Jacky's bubble?
Jack Grealish | Man City
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The Pep Guardiola is my idol thing is ridiculous because Pep has proven that he is one of the best managers to ever do the job for over a decade.
The idea that Grealish is a good/very good Premier League player who became hugely overrated due to being built up as a Messiah by football hipsters for 2 years is much more balanced and not being particularly harsh on Grealish as everyone knows he is a good player.
Yup, as I said he's obviously a good player but the 'generational talent' moniker some are throwing around is just insane, as is his weird cult following.
Better then Bruno they say
Yeah pretty much. Good player for sure. Never a 100m player. Has massively underachieved until now and is more a Hleb/Isco type who are nice on the eye but lack the end product when it matters. Doesn't answer any question that City needed, doesn't fit into their starting 11 to make them better in any way. A team like Liverpool or Chelsea would've made far more sense for him, City is essentially 100m for a player that doesn't make their team better.
His ceiling is limitless but as we've seen from his twitter, he's a simple, honest guy, and he's a united fan so he'll never truly love it there like he did at villa
Grealish’s foul stats are the most irrelevant stats since Morata’s goals per minutes stats
I always loved hearing the commentators stat through the Euros "the most fouled player in the PL" when on gods earth did fouls count for anything? The guy has 6 goals/10 assists & 8 goals/5 assists at the Premier League level very average in my opinion.....Poor mans Joe Cole!
He needs to adapt to City's style. According to the City journos he'll be rotated whilst he does adapt for this season.
I'd love to know where they even get that crap from anyway. His stats arent even half Bruno's in terms of goals and a assists. In fact there are few playrs in world football that come close to Bruno's goals and assists stats for us.
Because he can hold the ball for longer than 5 seconds?
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/grealish-to-city-city-bid-£100m.463156/post-27561630
Told you ya
He'll flop massively, mark my words, again !!!
Told you ya
He'll flop massively, mark my words, again !!!
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Who made that post? Who is the con man?
Haha stop it.
On God. I struggle to see him being a replacement for Sterling as Sterling has his own unique skill sets that are rare. A bit like Salah.
I agree. My housemate said he is not concerned with the signing because they are making out like they just signed Ronaldinho on top of Maradona (Foden)
It will be funny when he eventually ends up on the bench. He'll be the most expensive impact player of all time.
Surely not Pep that wanted Grealish, must be marketing people. From a football perspective it makes no sense.
I think I've been the most critical of Grealish on here, going back to the 19/20 season. The fanfare over him on here has been nauseating.
On today's game though, I thought he was ok. Their other attackers were hopeless, and I guess he was the best of a bad bunch. Pep has his work cut out for him because Grealish is not a City type of player. He either has to mould him into a system player or allow him the freedom he needs to be effective.
It is funny though how people are noticing how much of his gameplay is pretty pointless. Winning fouls and taking 5 unnecessary touches before releasing the ball might get you ratings at Villa but at City that brings no value.
On today's game though, I thought he was ok. Their other attackers were hopeless, and I guess he was the best of a bad bunch. Pep has his work cut out for him because Grealish is not a City type of player. He either has to mould him into a system player or allow him the freedom he needs to be effective.
It is funny though how people are noticing how much of his gameplay is pretty pointless. Winning fouls and taking 5 unnecessary touches before releasing the ball might get you ratings at Villa but at City that brings no value.
Don't mention actually scoring or creating goals, the football hipsters will scoff at you for not "getting it".
The same reason I would not mention that Rashford contributed more last season than Grealish ever has in a season whilst needing at least 2 surgeries.
But I thought he's the next Ronaldinho?
Rotating a £100m player...such luxury.
It’s in the the Grealish transfer thread. Some poster called @Eternitiy
I mean it isn't though, is it?
Yeah the problem with that though is that his transfer threads have been dripping with nonsense like this:
It's been 115 minutes including the cameo in the Charity Shield. So has he shut us up yet?
Not to mention repeated cries of "most entertaining player in the league", "best player in England", "far better than Bruno", "new Ronaldinho", and "modern day Beckham". This summer's Jack Grealish is the most overrated, over-mythologized player I've ever seen in my life and I'm not accepting the "give him time" excuse now. He's Premier League proven and was supposed to dominate! Where's the domination????
It's gonna be silent domination isn't it?
It’s gotta be said, he’s the best in the world at winning free kicks. Bruno could never!
I reckon the City apologists in this thread are some fun at parties
I reckon the City apologists in this thread are some fun at parties
It is true, Hazard used to win a lot too so he must be as good as Hazard. Everything else Hazard used to do didn't matter.
If Grealish can add shooting, passing & crossing to his game the league is in trouble!
Will be very good for us when we start firing on all cylinders
Apparently they want him to replace Gundogan in a couple of years time.
Go to bluemoon for morr reasonable debate on City. At the end of the day, this is an Utd forum, behaving as one.
He will never be given freedom. Guardiola will never sacrifice his principles for Grealish. Even Messi was a bit restricted in the positions he took up.
Look at today, Grealish was allowed to go inside at times but Sterling had to go wide. The only thing that happened was that they kept swapping. Grealish will not be allowed to roam. No player does that under positional play.
He has to adapt. He needs to learn to affect a game while touching the ball less, taking clever positions withing his zone and be able to play the key pass quicker. If he doesn't, he will quickly find he's a £100m bench player.
2021 Ronaldinho, sure.
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Right, because Pep is a footballing God and gets everything perfect right. Never had a player flop on him right? Never made a mistake with transfers right?
Grealish is pretty much anti City in his play style. He'll be punted out wide when De Bruyne is back because De Bruyne is a far better player. And out wide he won't be very effective because unlike at Villa, their tactic won't be to just let him do his thing. City need directness and runners in behind. That's not Grealish. 100m squad player and eventual De bruyne replacement. Not an improvement over Gundogan as a partner, not an improvement over Sterling on the left, not an improvement over what Mahrez provides or what Bernardo Silva provides when he's on form. The wankfest over Grealish is beyond fecked when he's done feck all in his (very long) career so far. Not like he didn't have most of his career in literally the 2nd division to show himself to be some actual world class player.
He'll be decent, sure. But he doesn't improve their starting 11, and doesn't give them anything that they didn't have before and doesn't fill any gaps they had. The biggest benefit to his signing is being a long term De Bruyne replacement (while being nowhere close to the same level).
He has the same numbers as De Bruyne last season in an inferior team under a lesser manager. Surely that's not feck all? If he hadn't gotten injured he'd be on 20+ assists and perhaps dragged Villa into Europe.
Cool it bruv.
No he wouldn't my God. Bruno scored a hat trick game one. If he is injured for the rest of the season should we just assume he'll score 30+? De Bruyne is multiple levels above him. They are very clearly not the same statistically. Lesser team or manager doesn't matter. At Villa everything went through Grealish. It won't at City. He had a good 3-4 months last season where he looked a top player for the first time in his career. That's it.Grealish fan girls can't handle him not doing much I guess. Which is weird when he plays for City now
Some people on here are so weird.
Grealish provided 10 assists last season and he played 2200 mins of football. De Bruyne provided 12 in 2000 ish. De Bruyne created chances at faster rate. This is precisely the problem with Grealish, his number are magnified and is compared to players who are far far superior. Besides the comparison doesn't make any sense given de Bruyne plays as part of mid 3 while Grealish played as LW for Villa. Not to mention, teams setup completely different when playing against City compared to Villa. Jack Grealish has indeed done feck all to be a £100m player. Jury is still out, but some of our fans have this weird infatuation with him where he's thought of as next coming of Zidane.
When Villa were promoted, Grealish was playing as a CM with McGinn as their #10. They were absolutely dogshit, their fortunes turned around when Grealish was pushed further up. So, the myth which is repeatedly parroted on this forum of Grealish being a world class CM is just a... myth. There's no guarantee he'll evolve into a top CM. So cool the de Bruyne comparisons.
That would have been interesting indeed.
Just imagine it in this way. Say, you havent heard of Graelish at all. Think of a scenario where a player played two consecutive seasons in the championship and got promoted to the Premier League. 2 seasons after, this player is picked up by the champions with the title most expensive british player. The question that i then would logically ask is, what did this player achieve in those two Premier League seasons that warranted a 100 milion pound? (higher then the Bale and Hazard transfers). i personally would expect a player like Bale's trajectory, who was clearly improving year by year followed by that 21 goals in his last season to warrant such a transfer when he was 25 years.
I do agree that Graelish has all the tools at City to improve and become an important player for them. It's up to his talent and mentality now to adapt.
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